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US Muslims bristle at Bush term "Islamic fascists" [Council on American-Islamic Relations.......]
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Posted on 08/10/2006 1:55:04 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

US Muslims bristle at Bush term "Islamic fascists" Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:07 PM ET

By Amanda Beck

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a "war with Islamic fascists," saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions.

U.S. officials have said the plot, thwarted by Britain, to blow up several aircraft over the Atlantic bore many of the hallmarks of al Qaeda.

"We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group.

"We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims," he told a news conference in Washington.

"We urge him (Bush) and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves."

Awad said U.S. officials should take the lead from their British counterparts who had steered clear of using what he considered inflammatory terms when they announced the arrest of more than 20 suspects in the reported plot.

Hours after the news broke, Bush said it was "a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."

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To: Diogenesis

Great post!

241 posted on 08/10/2006 4:00:28 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Did you read this one below here, C.A.I.R.!!??

GET IT!!??

You are not Wanted nor Needed nor Respected nor Loved. Now shut the hell up, it's worldwide and it is beginning to unfurl against you. (From Times of India newspaper, 10 August 2006):

"Muslims, violent and the silent ones, both are forcing the non-Muslim world slowly into a situation, where anything with a Muslim tag would be seen as a major threat. How come we find no Muslims coming forward and helping the authorities fight terror in various countries? If persisted with this, Islam might even end up being regarded as a psychiatric illness and an illegal faith within the next few years. Pankaj Mohan, Ahmedabad, India ========== "

242 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A few clever bones tossed on gay unions, flag burning & Iraq still don't absolve GWB over BORDERS)
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To: TheDon

LOL! Great!

243 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:34 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: usmcobra
CAIR doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as the Japanese American patriots that PROVED they were AMERICANS first with the lives, their blood and their heroism.


244 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:35 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: jusduat
It is good to see that at least more people are beginning to see that there are NO MODERATE MUSLIMES.

Look, I'm as incensed as you are with fake moderates like those at CAIR and many others. But that doesn't justify a blatant and bigoted lie, particularly one that is DAMAGING to our cause in turning away, discouraging or demoralizing vital allies, which is exactly what your statement is.

Muslims are dying every day fighting Islamism, in fact in far larger numbers than Americans or any other Westerners. I recall at least a couple stories from Pakistan over the years where Muslim security guards suffered injury or death protecting Christian enclaves or schools attacked by militants. Much of the research in Steve Emerson's breakthrough American Jihad was done by a devout Muslim, Khalid Duran, who has also worked with Daniel Pipes.


Tasbith Sayeed (sp?) a Pakistani journalist published editorials by outright Zionists (e.g. Avi Davis) as well as savaging extremists in his own columns, and (word is) assiduously outed fake-moderate Muslims involved in ecumenical movements with Jews and Christians. One of Bush's biggest boosters, and anti-Islamist columnist, is the Iranian expat Amir Taheri.

I could go on and on.

Defining such individuals out of existence is as stupid, damaging and counterfactual as it would have been, during the cold war, to claim that Alexander Solzenitzen was just another commie.

245 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:53 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Delbert

I'm with you on that one.

246 posted on 08/10/2006 4:05:01 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: justche
I thought "about damn time" He doesn't get to be as candid as all of us are allowed to be. It might not be strong enough for some - but I was glad to hear what he said and hope that he keeps that tone.

Weel if Bush doesn't back down we will know that the days of popcorn for Teddy I am a nice guy are OVER
247 posted on 08/10/2006 4:06:33 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: usmcobra
"This is . . . the best thing. I enjoy it," Murad admitted to a Pakistani interrogator last year when asked why he wanted to kill so many Americans, according to a transcript read in court on Thursday. He went on to explain that "the United States is the first country in this world making trouble for . . . Muslims and for our people."
248 posted on 08/10/2006 4:06:59 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Joan Kerrey

..."we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism,"...

One can then only ask the question, counter-productive for
who? Certainly it would be counter-productive for the muslims who support the Islamic fascists to be called to
account over their support, they would prefer to work
unnoticed and undisturbed, the very fact that they bring
this up damns their argument.

249 posted on 08/10/2006 4:21:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I saw a Marine today, shook his hand, and thanked him for his service. He said he might go back to Iraq fairly soon, and I told him that my vote was for them to stop taking prisoners; just waste them on the spot, if the mainstream media aren't around.

250 posted on 08/10/2006 4:26:44 PM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Congress critters upset because someone lied to them.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nope, no connection here.....
251 posted on 08/10/2006 4:26:48 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Sub-Driver

Would they prefer Satanic Towelheads?

252 posted on 08/10/2006 4:40:11 PM PDT by Blogger (
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To: AmericanInTokyo
CAIR has absolutely no idea of the size and anger of the beast out there, in terms of a BACKLASH by many in America to THEIR backlash. They arereallystarting to urinate in the wind on this one.

I think you're right. And I hope so! But in the Muslim American community, I don't know how many truly support what goes on for or against us. And some of the Muslims in America seem to be supportive of the Islamo fascists tacitly, for their own well being. Not because they're fans, but because they're concerned about their futures. It's a closed community and who wants to be the one to shout out against the terror? -cue crickets - That's right, so far, not many. I don't believe they all agree with the terrorists, at least it doesn't seem so with fully 'Americanized' families, but who can know for sure? Cair needs to be careful, like you said, their base and the power over that base could erode quickly. Here's to hoping it's soon.

253 posted on 08/10/2006 4:54:08 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Alouette

"If only 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 million who want to kill us."

254 posted on 08/10/2006 4:57:41 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Sub-Driver

i've completely had it with islam's perpetual sensitivities, the unhealable ego wound. if it's going to be war, let's stop playing games and do it.


255 posted on 08/10/2006 4:59:22 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: tomswiftjr

Grandma was a wise woman.

256 posted on 08/10/2006 4:59:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: All

If I had a nickel for every time one of those CAIR morons likened Israel to fascism and/or Nazism...well, you all get the idea.

257 posted on 08/10/2006 5:14:26 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: Sub-Driver
Offensive? Offensive...did somebody mention offensive? Well how about these cartoons, which are but the tip of the Islamofacist propaganda iceberg:

258 posted on 08/10/2006 5:14:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Diogenesis
Let me add to your catalog of Islamofacist atrocities. Cair whines about being offended? Well I'm offended at any so-called religion that celebrates something called Ashoura If the adults want to flagellate themselves with chains and cut themselves with swords over some dude who died in A.D. 680, I say go for it. But when they do the same to their own infants and small children, I say destroy this horrific thing called Islamofacism:

259 posted on 08/10/2006 5:19:58 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Sub-Driver

CAIR can kiss my rear end.

What have they to complain about, bush said islamic "fascist," not islamists in general (though we all know how that goes, wink wink).

When they condemn anti semitic acts in general as a whole, then they have something to talk about, but for now, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE

260 posted on 08/10/2006 5:44:24 PM PDT by World_Events
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