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U.S. Muslims feel Americans' prejudice(off the barfometer scale)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | August 15, 2006 | PARVEZ AHMED

Posted on 08/14/2006 7:48:51 PM PDT by mdittmar

Shortly after 9/11, President Bush described and later retracted our fight against terrorism as a "crusade." In his first news conference after last week's thwarted terrorist plot to blow up several aircrafts the president said, " This nation is at war with Islamic fascists."

The use of the phrase "Islamic fascists" has drawn the ire of the American Muslim community. As Muslims, we use "Islamic ethics" to mean ethics based on Islamic teachings that guide our behavior. Similarly, "Islamic art" draws its inspiration from Islamic teachings that discourage certain types of art (immodest imagery or certain life forms). When the president uses "Islamic fascists," it conveys that fascism is rooted in Islam or fascism that is inspired by Islam. This is the way the Muslims will see it, regardless of what George W. Bush may claim he really means.

Bush, on an earlier occasion, said Islam is a religion of peace. Now, caving into extreme right-wing pressure, he equated the religion of peace with the ugliness of fascism. Such rhetoric contributes to fear and backlash against American Muslims. A recently released Gallup poll shows four out of 10 Americans feel "prejudiced" against Muslims.

"Prejudice" against Islam and Muslims allowed politicians to whip up a frenzy in rejecting the approval of a Dubai firm to operate U.S. ports. Conservative columnist David Brooks wrote, "But it is certain that the xenophobic hysteria will come back to harm the U.S. This (Middle East) is a region in the midst of traumatic democratic change. The strongest argument the fundamentalists have is that they are engaged in a holy war against the racist West, which imposes one set of harsh rules on Arabs and another set of rules on everybody else. Now comes a group of politicians to prove them gloriously right."

Scholarly writings are delving deeper into the root causes of suicide terrorism. Robert Pape in his book "Dying to Win" uses more than two decades of data to show the paucity of connection between suicide terrorism and any religion. The pioneering instigators and the largest purveyors of suicide terrorism are the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are overwhelmingly Hindu.

Pape writes: "From Lebanon to Israel to Sri Lanka to Kashmir to Chechnya, the sponsors of every campaign have been terrorist groups trying to establish or maintain political self determination by compelling a democratic power to withdraw from a territory they claim." Occupation is the primary motivator and religion, at best, is an "aggravating" factor.

Today we all live in fear of terrorism. Equating terrorism with Islam makes the mainstream Muslim community doubly vulnerable to both the random acts of terror and the ensuing backlash.

In these trying times it is important our nation stands united. Muslims form an important part of the fabric of America. We are law-abiding citizens who have always been dedicated to the protection of our national security. We should not be targeted or singled out because of our faith. Nor should our faith be equated with the evils of terrorism or fascism. We do not control or have say over the actions of shadowy terrorist groups. But as taxpayers we certainly have a right to petition and expect our own to government do everything in its powers to protect us by all means, including avoiding counterproductive rhetoric.

A recent policy brief by the Stanley Foundation states that Western powers "should not focus on the religious and cultural divisions between East and West when approaching this issue (of terrorism), as this plays into the existing grievances of Arab and Muslim populations and creates a sense of clash between civilizations, all of which hinder the resolution of differences."

An attempt to institutionally and rhetorically dissociate Islam from terrorism is imperative.

Parvez Ahmed is chairman of Council on American-Islamic Relations. CAIR is the United States' largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy group. To find out more about CAIR go to: www.cair.com E-mail: pahmed@cair.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: mdittmar

41 posted on 08/14/2006 8:11:53 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Can you believe someone was so offended by the photo they had it removed? What a bunch of sissies!


42 posted on 08/14/2006 8:11:55 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: mdittmar

Fine. Call them Muslim Fascists. Eventually, if your people's "Islamic Ethics" don't change, the President will refer to them as "Muslims." I'm sick of this whining.


43 posted on 08/14/2006 8:12:21 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: mdittmar

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

Don't wan't trouble? Renounce your faith of evil.

(You are right about the off the charts Barfometer)


44 posted on 08/14/2006 8:12:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: mdittmar

SIUYA Parvez.


45 posted on 08/14/2006 8:12:45 PM PDT by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: mdittmar

How about "dead Islamic fascists?"


46 posted on 08/14/2006 8:14:18 PM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: mdittmar

Reap it, Ahmed. We don't give a flyin' fiddler's s**t what you or your ilk think any more. Your extremists define you. Your "moderates" dazzle us with their.........deafening silence.

In short.................up yours.


47 posted on 08/14/2006 8:14:25 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Islam is to blame for a large, large part of any racism toward them.

Islam is to blame for ALL of the anger that is directed at them. It isn't racism, because it is a so-called religion, not a race.


48 posted on 08/14/2006 8:16:05 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Peach

4 in 10 - It's got to be more than that


49 posted on 08/14/2006 8:18:07 PM PDT by reefdiver (A culture of treason exists between Democrats and the MSM)
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To: Mr. Mojo
...or fascism that is inspired by Islam.

What the President is referring to is an Islam that is inspired by facism. Not the other way around

All the Muslim commentary seems deviod of understanding of English grammar. There is no equation between Islam and Facism in the President's words. He is distinguishing a current within Islam that is very distinctly facist in nature.

I would go further. All of Islam is inspired by facist impulses. Islam is by its very nature authoritarian, intolerant of deviance, doctrinaire, and all-encompassing in its reach and range over human life. The word Islam literally means submission to the will of God. And they have no doubt just what that will is. It's written in the unalterable words of God in the Quran. All as interpreted by the local igoramus known as the Imam or Mullah.

That is at least incipiently, and probably quinessentially facist at tis core.

Until Muslims come to grips with this fact, we're all going exactly nowhere.

50 posted on 08/14/2006 8:18:18 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Peach

Oh my gosh I hadn't even thought to associate Islam and Fascism. It was only after Bush said it that I had such a notion.It couldn't have possibly been the ACTIONS of Muslims, no sir.


51 posted on 08/14/2006 8:19:11 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: mdittmar
Today, not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims.

Timothy McVey and the IRA are more than a decade in the past.

52 posted on 08/14/2006 8:19:47 PM PDT by Washi
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To: mdittmar
I certainly hope so as I'm prejudice as hell against them. Screw this Political correct bull shXt.
53 posted on 08/14/2006 8:21:17 PM PDT by fish hawk (Terror : in a cave in Afghanistan. Treason: in a cave-in , in the Democratic Party)
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To: Alouette

What about havens of safety for the rest of us?


54 posted on 08/14/2006 8:21:27 PM PDT by DaveMSmith ("Nothing unconnected ever occurs, for anything unconnected would instantly perish")
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To: mdittmar
The fabric of America is made of Americans. We never had to judge anyone on their faith, as we welcome everyone. We welcomed everyone to live and worship as they pleased. And then came Islam.

Pardon us, but your Koran is showing. We realize that not all Muslims are terrorists, but pretty much all terrorists are Muslims. So you'll understand when we put you through extra security. Get used to it.

How do I view Islam? Through the sights of my rifle. The safety is on, for now.

55 posted on 08/14/2006 8:22:03 PM PDT by Sender (“Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.”)
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To: mdittmar

I would like to ask why our govt treats CAIR as if it is a responsible organization. Several of the leaders are/have been connected to terrorism. Same goes for the media (Fox included). Is there ANY Muslim group which is unequivocably anti-terror? If not, why not? There have been nearly 5 years since 9/11, and Muslims have had plenty of time to start new, "moderate" groups.


56 posted on 08/14/2006 8:23:36 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: mdittmar

Muslims feel Americans prejudice? It's not prejudice if it's true. The murdering swine can KMA


57 posted on 08/14/2006 8:24:28 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Adults like to make their own choices, the socially stunted and socially retarded want a nanny state)
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To: Yaelle
"If there were people in my congregation who wanted millions of innocents dead, I would not even like to pray in the same room with them. I would not believe we could be praying to the same G-d at all."

And you would be absolutely correct in judgeing them as heretics/apostate, in every single other known organized "religion", except Islam.

Islam is a barbaric death cult.

I say, God wants us to give them what they pray for several times a day.

Death.
58 posted on 08/14/2006 8:26:21 PM PDT by sarasmom (To all political staff lurkers: SECURE THE BORDERS, OR YOU'RE FIRED!)
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To: MadLibDisease

How MEAN of you! You know according to liberals that BUSH is the greatest threat to America.Not sweet, loving Muslims who wouldn't hurt a fly.


59 posted on 08/14/2006 8:27:04 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: mdittmar
Hey Mr. CAIR guy. Thanks for making flying to see Grandma such a royal pain.

Your neighbors in Seattle have engineered planes that are so reliable that thousands take off and land safely every day of the year without incident. Meanwhile your cretin brethren who haven't evolved beyond the stone age put all their ingenuity into trying to make everyone else in the world as miserable as they are.

I have zero sympathy for you. If America is so bad, leave. Leave now. Don't wait another minute. Go back to the paradise of Lebanon, Syria, Iran and build sandcastles.
60 posted on 08/14/2006 8:35:08 PM PDT by JayNorth
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