Posted on 10/10/2006 7:34:47 AM PDT by ZGuy
Feet of gay.
right of sodomy.
When we as a country lose our faith in God and His teachings he will lift his hand of grace from us. America was blessed because of our Judea/Christian values. Homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. Read the Bible to see what happens when deviancy becomes the norm. All threats that you mentioned are the fruits of our decay. I don't make the rules, I just try to abide by them.
Yep, and plenty are in this thread. Seems like a lot of the suicidal conservatives are also Christians think that if the GOP isn't purged of anyone who doesn't follow their ideology, then having the Dems in power is the answer.
Of course, they're probably also the same ones who never vote because the GOP hasn't outlawed abortion and made homosexuality a capital offense.
Please identify any factual examples where "homo's" are "running the show" in the GOP, if you can; facts, not suppositions, innuendo and projections of unfactual perceptions.
I understand the mission of Agape Press and Americans for Truth.
However my view of them in the matter their weighing in on the Foley scandal, and their overly broad brush, overly (non-factual) focus on the influence of gays in the GOP in this case, says that they are no better in this particualr affair than the leftist groups who produced the outing of Foley and the news networks.
They are taking advantage of the Foley scandal to get attention, and support, for themselves, at the expense of the only national party that contains enough "social conservatives" to continue to support the true causes of Agape and Americans for Truth.
They are acting no different than the RINO Tom Kean in New Jersey who is so weak against the notorioulsy corrupt Menendez that he wants to win by running across the back of Denny Hastert; a man who Kean can never equal in any sense, moral or otherwise.
I hope there are fairer, more decent and more concerned social conservatives that do not get caught up in the GOP bashing so much that they cannot see the forest for the trees.
There will be no blessings of any kind in a Dim majority in Congress.
I would also venture to add that social conservatives could wind up cutting off there own nose to smite their face, if everyone else in the GOP attributes GOP loses to stay-at-home social conservatives. If one thing is certain there will be no places among the Dims reserved for them.
Libertarians, small government conservatives, non-Christian conservatives who want "federalist" type judges (like Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito) because they form the backbone of the limited role our judiciary should have, more than they want particular social conservative outcomes to be dictated by such judges; might all just decide they are happy with the freedom to not have to deliver "social conservative" outcomes all the time.
Social conservatives have spent nearly forty years (1968) building a political home in the GOP. If they become the cause of GOP defeat (by sitting it out) in 2006, they could just tear their own political house down.
That is not an eventuality worth applauding.
And I reject all efforts that lend support to that outcome.
Including unfounded assumptions, self-serving assumptions by some, that some "lavender mafia" is calling the shots in the GOP. It might sell for people who want to boost their own business or agenda, but it has little reality to it.
Exactly....which has resulted in the destructive and contorted interpretation of "rights" we have today....and is promoted and drilled into the youth who are at the mercy of the Liberal-tool NEA.
The plan of takeover follows a blueprint of specific goals, which include the control of education (schools), control of the courts (remove accountability from voters' control), and takeover of the means of production (regulation and emminent domain).
Boiling the frog known as America.
Who knows right now?? I am sure things will come out as we go along. Apparently the homo's were in charge of the investigation concerning Foley, so that is one fact. It will be interesting to see what else comes to light. So, I am willing to wait and see what comes out and then I will make up my own mind. No telling what will come out of this Foley scandal.
Also, I see where a list is being circulated that includes Inhofe's chief of staff...which is no big surprise, everyone knew he was a homo....however, I will never understand how Inhofe can employ someone that "apparently" goes against everything Inhofe "says" he is for. Anyway, the Reps. better make up their minds on the homo issue.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have the same position as the Westboro Baptist Church.
You are so right. Let's say the Republicans have 500 gay Floridians. That could have been the magic number that put Florida over the edge for President Bush in 2000. I would not want to kick the gays out of the Republican Party like some state. Don't these folks realize how split the country is. We are practically 50-50. Or you could look at it this way 40 percent Republican, 40 percent Democrat and 20 percent Independent. How many gays do you want to run to the democratic party that was prior Republicans because they were kicked out. I know that was not your thought, but I did think your post was valid.
"Apparently the homo's were in charge of the investigation concerning Foley,"
No, that is not a fact. You have used the LameStreamMedia too much as your source.
As for "the List", see the following post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1716871/posts
You are responding to my apples with your oranges. Reread my post.
My comment that "there is not a legislative history in GOP majorities that agrees with your idea", is referring to the fact that there is no evidence of a "gay" legislative agenda within majorities in the GOP, therefore, there is little factual support for the idea that some "velvet mafia" in the GOP is running its agenda.
I am familiar with the term among Catholics and with "velvet mafia" among libs and Dims in public office; not, until now among conservatives and the GOP in general.
Like I said, I am prepared to wait and see what else comes out. However, the Rep's need to clean house because the last thing they need is for Christian Conservatives to stay home.
I don't contend that the Republican agenda is being run by the faggot lobby at all....I contend that the Republicans have NOT shown the cahones to reject the agenda of the deviates (promoted by the Left as "progressive/inclusive") for fear of being branded as bigots. It happens on EVERY secular-progressive agenda issue, where Republicans do not aggressivel oppose the attack on morality or responsibility.
Do you really think that Libertarians, "moderate" GOPers, GOPers who are primarily concerned with "small government and low taxes" but not primarily "social conservatives"; Catholic GOPers who are moderate social conservatives but not aligned with "fundamentalist" Christians; Jews who are conservative and leaned more to the GOP recently for foreign policy reasons - but turned off by "fundamentalist" Christians; recent pro-US-conservative immigrant GOPers and many others will lament not having to fulfill the "social conservative" agenda at every turn???
If "social cponservatives" in the GOP were to use the Foley affair as a matter for which to "stay at home in protest", the net result would be that they would tear down their own house in the GOP, and there are no Dims who will give them a place to lay their heads.
If you think the rest of the GOP will then not find its way, and to success, without them, then you do not understand the American people and American politics.
"Social conservatives" have spent forty years building a political house in the GOP. If they were to decide, as a group, to cause harm to the GOP over Foley, they will do much more harm to themselves.
You think God is sending Al Qaeda to punish America for its sins?
"It happens on EVERY secular-progressive agenda issue, where Republicans do not aggressivel oppose the attack on morality or responsibility."
I find neither legislative-voting history or anecdotal evidence to support that view; if we are talking about GOP majorities. Maybe you are looking more, and primarily, at public statements by GOP elected officials than the actual legislative actions of those officials. As you know, the GOP leaders, like the GOP base, prefer to conduct their political battles with their votes and not in the street.
If you want to say that, fine. It's your right. I don't agree. I have several gay friends who live quiet, productive and decent lives, who I would stake my life on if necessary.
'Nuff said about that. The point is, if anyone fails to vote or wastes their vote on some third party spoiler (excepting Lieberman) and the result is the loss of the Republican House majority, our President will likely be impeached.
They will have allowed their notion of 'the best' to serve evil.
What's good for the goosed is good for the gander.
Check out my post #4 regarding this massive reference text.
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