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The above ad is as tough as can be and was not paid for by Hayworth's campaign but by the NRCC, which meant it had the approval of Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove.

Did it help, nope. Hayowrth conceded yesterday.

So the next time I see some "true conservative" saying that the GOP doesn't help it's candidates, I will refer back to this thread.

The only bad part is that the pet issue of foaming at the mouth over immigration of some on FR did not help a candidate(Hayworth) who in the previous three elections had won with at least 60% of the vote.

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1 posted on 11/15/2006 1:13:10 PM PST by Dane
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What percent is Hispanic in Hayworth's district?


2 posted on 11/15/2006 1:15:22 PM PST by Brilliant
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But his associate Kyle WON. He was anti-illegal invader.

And DeWine and Chaffee lost - both libs.

So what's your point?

Most Hispanic Americans, in an article extracted on this site, voted Democrat - MORE than voted LAST time around, DESPITE Bush's knee padding to Vicente Fox.

FURTHER, the SAME article stated that immigration was not even an issue among Hispanic Americans - it was jobs and schools.

So, Dane, back to the drawing board for more research to justify illegal alien pardons.
3 posted on 11/15/2006 1:17:15 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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As I said on the other thread...
I do not believe it was because of his immigration stand. His opponent on this issue was also taking a realtively hard line. Why? Because in the state of Arizona they are passing popular ballot initiatives addressing the issue too...so I do not believe it was his stance on immigration that cost him the election.

But that's just my opinion from way up here in Idaho.

5 posted on 11/15/2006 1:19:14 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be)
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Open borders amnesty didn't help the GOP no matter how many Hayworth threads you start today.


6 posted on 11/15/2006 1:19:19 PM PST by mysterio
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The only bad part is that the pet issue of foaming at the mouth over immigration of some on FR did not help a candidate(Hayworth) who in the previous three elections had won with at least 60% of the vote.

One problem with your thesis, Harry Mitchell ran a campaign that made illegal immigration a center piece.

Also, Arizona passed English as Offical Language (Prop 103) by 74 to 26.

J.D. lost because he ran a crappy campaign and his district changed, becoming choked with liberal Californians who vote instinctivly D.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

7 posted on 11/15/2006 1:21:45 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Mitchell supports amnesty?

All of the seemingly Mitchell apologists around here have been saying Mitchell was strong on illegal immigration.

8 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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JD hasn't lost anything spunky.

Ballots are still being counted - Absentee and Early Voters.

9 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:47 PM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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Hayworth was specifically targeted by the Democrats. There was a massive effort to re-register out-of-state ASU students to vote against him.

BTW, the reason the Mexicans vote for Democrats is because the Democrats promise to take money away from other citizens and give it to them. They also stand for special privileges for minorities.
10 posted on 11/15/2006 1:23:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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I doubt Nancy Pelosi was as gleeful when she found out this Republican lost as you were. Troll.
31 posted on 11/15/2006 1:43:22 PM PST by mthom
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Trolling for ZOT, are we?


32 posted on 11/15/2006 1:44:21 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Immigration is NOT the ACE-IN-THE-HOLE that "most" people here believe it is. (It needs to get done, but politically its NOT the be all end all)


33 posted on 11/15/2006 1:45:24 PM PST by Echo Talon
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J. D. lost because of all of the baggage the incompetent Republican leadership hung around his neck. It had nothing to do with illegal immigration issue since the propositions dealing with those issues won handily. Hopefully, the new Republican leadership will show some real leadership that supports the values of the Republican party!


34 posted on 11/15/2006 1:47:11 PM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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J. D. lost because of all of the baggage the incompetent Republican leadership hung around his neck. It had nothing to do with illegal immigration issue since the propositions dealing with those issues won handily. Hopefully, the new Republican leadership will show some real leadership that supports the values of the Republican party!


35 posted on 11/15/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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Dane, you have your moments, you really do, but then you return to form and post endlessly on this one topic and it doesn't matter one whit to you that you are wrong, or how many posters dissect your statements.

Like the Media, you are agenda driven, and the camouflage is as thin as a Baltimore pimp's patent leather shoes.

give it a break, girl.
36 posted on 11/15/2006 1:48:46 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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the pet issue of foaming at the mouth over immigration of some on FR did not help a candidate"

It's hard to overcome the illegal vote and the Atzlan vote in that area....therein is the issue of the invasion you are in denial of...

You favor amnesty for ALL criminals? (equal protection clause), whereby if you break selective laws, you can walk free and even have rights that U.S. citizens are denied?

46 posted on 11/15/2006 2:09:47 PM PST by traditional1
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You have a very unhealthy obsession about JD Hayworth.


48 posted on 11/15/2006 2:12:48 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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What was the position of Hayworth's opponent on immigration?


49 posted on 11/15/2006 2:13:03 PM PST by reelfoot
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Your posting is getting to the point of spamming. Rather than trashing other conservatives, how about doing something constructive such as supporting your choice for minority leader?


52 posted on 11/15/2006 2:15:29 PM PST by jmc813
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When did Hayworth lose?I don't recall hearing about it.


74 posted on 11/15/2006 3:01:47 PM PST by puppypusher
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Dane, you are well known here as apposing the fence.


80 posted on 11/15/2006 4:11:02 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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