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Pork, Entitlements Killed the GOP
Human Events ^ | 11/21/06 | Michael Lewis

Posted on 11/21/2006 10:54:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: justshutupandtakeit

"It's portrait of Conservatives was what voters thought they were voting against"

So the GOP out of control spending, the open borders, the Harriet Miers debacle, the failure to un-tie the hands of our solders in Iraq was all a MSM illusion?


41 posted on 11/21/2006 1:12:23 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: liberty or death

"That means the average cost of each slice of pork was 16,533,333. I want some friggin pork!!!"

You ain't gettn no frigging pork. Only the big business get the pork.

The grassroots gets the pork skins and cracklins.


42 posted on 11/21/2006 1:14:35 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: liberty or death

10% = 165,333. I still want some pork:>))


43 posted on 11/21/2006 1:15:30 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: tennmountainman

Well them skins and cracklins by Washington standards look to be worth more than gold eh? Ship mine Fed Ex:>)


44 posted on 11/21/2006 1:17:29 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: tennmountainman

There was no "out of control" spending. In fact, the deficit is going down because of Bush's economic policies.

There are no "open" borders since millions are returned every year and the problem with Illegals is WILDLY exaggerated.

There is no "tied" hands of American troops. Destroying those we are trying to protect is not a solution to anything.

Harriet Miers became a debacle because the Loony Lynch Mob torpedoed her. There was nothing wrong with her as a Justice except in the eyes of the Loony Lynch Mob. She was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian and long-time, trusted associate of the President.

So yep it was all an illusion. Particularly when compared with the REAL successes of the GOP: the taking the War on Terror to our enemies, the reform of taxes and the appointment of conservative Justices.

But now you don't have to worry about ANY future successes since the GOP is "being taught a lesson." Another fabulous success by the Wingnut wing of the party.


45 posted on 11/21/2006 1:21:10 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
But now you don't have to worry about ANY future successes since the GOP is "being taught a lesson." Another fabulous success by the Wingnut wing of the party.

Well said.

46 posted on 11/21/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Pretty damn sad too.


47 posted on 11/21/2006 1:24:38 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: tennmountainman; NormsRevenge
No...W and the congress gave the middle class got a nice kick in the teeth with the bankruptcy bill bought,paid for and written by the nice lawyers over at citi-bank and MBNA. You know the bill that now allows your creditors who you have been square with for years to jack up your rates to 30% because you are a few days late on your water bill.

A bill that just screws over the middle class and was celebrated by legions of Freepers who failed to read the small print.
48 posted on 11/21/2006 1:26:34 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Yes it is.


49 posted on 11/21/2006 1:27:33 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

I welcome the failure of the GOP. Besides the war the GOP was not very conservative. Without Ann Coulter and Rush we would have been stuck with an unknown on the SC. The GOP is now socialism lite.


50 posted on 11/21/2006 1:28:19 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: NormsRevenge

Soon, it will also be pork, entitlements killed the Democrats! What goes around comes around.


51 posted on 11/21/2006 1:33:26 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: John Lenin

Total crap.

It was too conservative for the Nation apparently.

The Lynch mob attack on Miers was a disgrace and had nothing to do with her not being conservative enough in any case.


52 posted on 11/21/2006 1:48:35 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There was no "out of control" spending. In fact, the deficit is going down because of Bush's economic policies.

Just because revenues rose due to the tax cuts and covered some of the wild spending, doesn't mean it wasn't wild spending. And remember, the spending is permanent, but the tax cuts are temporary.

There are no "open" borders since millions are returned every year and the problem with Illegals is WILDLY exaggerated.

Right .... and how did millions get here to be deported if the borders aren't open? And do you really think we catch and deport at a 100% level? And since the problem is estimated at 10Million, and you say millions are returned, how can the problem be WILDLY exaggerated.

You don't even seem to be trying to be logical about any of this.

Harriet Miers might be a nice person, but there is no record of her being the kind of deep thinker needed on the bench. Being a loyal political hack is exactly what would be wrong with having her on the bench, no matter what her conservative, fundamentalist Christian beliefs. If she can't out-think, out-write, and out-argue a Kennedy, a Breyer or hopefully a Ginsburg, then she isn't a good nomination.

It's hard work to be cynical enough, but being logical enough isn't all that hard; give it a try.

53 posted on 11/21/2006 1:52:03 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: John Lenin
"The GOP is now socialism lite."

Socialism Lite: A third less inhuman than the regular socialism.
(But still inhuman.)
54 posted on 11/21/2006 1:56:46 PM PST by ricer1
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To: slowhandluke
Harriet Miers might be a nice person, but there is no record of her being the kind of deep thinker needed on the bench.

Exactly who said we need a deep thinker? I was and am tired of ivory tower eggheads deciding law on things they never experience.

Meirs was treated disgracefully by conservatives, and trashing her and the President hurt us. I elected GWB to decide who to put on the court, not Ann Coulter.

55 posted on 11/21/2006 1:59:07 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: slowhandluke

Much of the spending has been in place for decades. Only those who do not understand politics would believe that Bush EVER had a sufficient mandate to change these priorities. He BARELY reached office in the first place then was IMMEDIATELY stabbed in the back by Jeffords putting the Senate in enemy hands.

If you seriously want Major reform you MUST elect conservatives with LARGE majorities not barely winning with only SOME conservatives.

I live in a city with one of the largest Illegal populations in the country they are NOT a huge problem here. In some areas they are more of one. But anyone believing they are going to help solve this problem (which has been growing LONG before 2001) by reducing the power of the GOP is a fool. NOW nothing you want will be done. NOW the House cannot stand in the way of amnesty. Congratulations.

Prior to their nominations MOST candidates are not well known. While I like the result I still believe the attacks on Mier were horribly personal and unworthy of decent people. And you have ZERO evidence she could not stand up against the evil ones.

I am in need of no logic lessons from people who cannot even recognize their own best interest.


56 posted on 11/21/2006 2:02:35 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ricer1

Thw whole system blows up in 2018, The politicians will lie to us up to the minute before implosion that everything is just fine if we raise taxes even higher.


57 posted on 11/21/2006 2:05:02 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: brooklyn dave

Heck Jorge wouldn't even use his veto when the Pubs had the house and senate. No chance he will risk alienating his friends on the left now.


58 posted on 11/21/2006 2:07:48 PM PST by newcthem
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To: A.Hun
Meirs was treated disgracefully by conservatives, and trashing her and the President hurt us. I elected GWB to decide who to put on the court, not Ann Coulter



I don't care how she was treated conservatives worked 20 to get the supreme court and we deserved much better then some crony.and it wasn't just Coulter it was Maulkin...Rush...Will...Krystol...Krauthammer...pretty much everyone.... .If she didn't like the heat she shouldn't of picked herself...but then I'm no fan of "Chief Jorge Big Spender"
59 posted on 11/21/2006 2:13:30 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: justshutupandtakeit

If you seriously want Major reform you MUST elect conservatives with LARGE majorities not barely winning with only SOME conservatives.



If you seriously want Major reform you pull out your veto pen and slam there thick heads into a wall.

Fixed it.


60 posted on 11/21/2006 2:22:08 PM PST by Blackirish
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