Posted on 12/06/2006 4:29:58 PM PST by HAL9000
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ROME (AP) - Vatican archaeologists have unearthed a sarcophagus believed to contain the remains of the Apostle Paul that had been buried beneath Rome's second largest basilica.The sarcophagus, which dates back to at least A.D. 390, has been the subject of an extended excavation that began in 2002 and was completed last month, the project's head said this week.
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H'mm, perhaps they are in the glass triangle at the Louve along with the remains of Mary Magdeline
Cool, but not surprising. Kind of like finding Grant in Grant's tomb.
"Before 1950, the assumption of Mary was open to Theological debate, but once the Pope defined it as doctrine it is considered a closed topic in the Roman Catholic Church."
Yet that pope was not there to witness what happened, and no pope claims to be a prophet or get revelations. He just had power to turn his personal opinion into church dogma because of the office that other men voted him into.
The worms ate her bones too, like those of Peter and Paul?
Catholics and Orthodox Christians can know with the certainty of faith that Mary was assumed into heaven at the end of her earthly existence. Others can only speculate, but there is historical evidence that supports the belief in the Assumption.
For example, The Tomb of the Dormition [falling asleep] of Mary in Jerusalem was built around the year 450 A.D
"What's really interesting about the letter is that it proclaims the Phoenix is a real bird and it states that we are justified through faith alone."
Is this letter online? I'd be very interested in seeing a translation of it.
You mean these words of Jesus: "if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector"?
Was John the Baptist assumed into Heaven? If not, why not? Jesus said in Luke 7:28 I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there is none greater than John:
You seem to have purposely omitted the line that follows: "...yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."
The entire passage reads: "I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." Certainly Christ's mother was "in the kingdom of God."
Wow! Only 330 years too late! *eye roll*
Do you realize that Luke 7:28 has NEVER been used by the anti-Catholics to dispute Marian teachings?
Did you read what came before this passage? The Lord was talking about prophets, in fact the KJV includes the word prophet in the verse you quote. Mary was not a prophet and nobody has ever said she was.
If our Lord was to be taken literally here in the way you suggest, He would be lesser than John. JESUS WAS BORN OF A WOMAN.
Find a better argument, because this one goes nowhere.
Agreed. Another tradition which doesn't correlate with what the Bible teaches.
Well, the Catholic Church has never sanctioned the selling of indulgences. This was an abuse of office. Catholic priests are sinners, like most other Christians.
So tell me, where in the Bible is Luther's doctrine of "the Bible alone"? That one should be in the Bible, shouldn't it?
"I am not asking you whether she had a Savior; even babies have a Savior in Christ. I am asking you how you know she committed sins."
If Mary had no sin and would not die, she would have not needed a Savior. Children do not inherit the guilt of their parents sins, so there is no reason Mary would have to be any different than any other righteous woman. By saying Mary had to be so fundamentally different denies God's miraculous ability to work though us mortals in spite of ourselves.
Mary needed a Savior to overcome sin and death just as we do. Our dying and rotting in the grave won't stop us from being with God again, so it won't stop Mary either.
Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
Modern day televangelists sending out solicitations for money for new jets and mega-churches is completely consistent with the corruption that Luther protested,
"Mary did not carry the burden of Original Sin"
Original Sin, another false doctrine. The only consequences we suffer from what Adam did are that we are mortal and we lack the strength to live a sinless life ourselves. We are only guilty of the sins we ourselves do however, anything else denies the justice of God.
Because of Christ, all will be resurected, and all can be forgiven of sin on condition of repentance. All the consequences of Adam's fall will be undone leaving us before God to answer for our own actons.
As for Adam, he did have nearly 1000 years to repent himself, who is to say God didn't forgive him?
"If you say Jesus' wounds went with him to heaven then are you saying the paraplegic will continue to have to use a wheelchair in heaven for lack of missing limbs? Those who died in fire will walk around with dripping flesh? Lepers will carry leprosy-scarred skin with them?"
Our teaching is that he kept the wounds of his crucifixion by his own choice as a testemony of what he did. Personaly, I'm looking forward to not needing glasses anymore, and hope there is a weight loss option. :)
That which mankind attributes God outside what He disclosed to us in the Bible (which has never included the Apocrypha) is the fancy of men.
Those ideas of mankind which elevate him (or her) above what God has declared about us in the Bible are mere fancy of men.
Mary was sinful as testified by the Scripture that all are sinners, none do good, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
There is NOTHING in Scripture that tells us Mary was born without sin. That's the fancy of men. As you say, "Catholics believe" it. That's mere fancy. Some in your church have taken Mary worship to cultic extremes, as evidenced by all the talk about her being the co-redemdtrix (sic?) with Christ. That's beyond fancy and is clear-cut heresy.
Religion of man - false traditions of men. Do not hold dearly to these as they will lead you away from the Lord Jesus.
I think a big problem starts from the premise of asking, "Well, Why not??", as if we were really see things with thru his eyes.
Family to Jesus is revealed in his rejection of his own immediate family in "...they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother."(Mark 3:31-35, Matthew 12:46-50, and Luke 8:19- 21).
Why would he just change his mind?
All the talk from popes that you quote is so much fanciful talk of men. As the Bible would say, "vain traditions of men" (see Mark 7:5 - 9; Colossians 2:8 - 12, & 1 Peter 1:18 - 21).
Thanks.
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