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How Barack's winning the evangelicals
American Thinker ^ | 12/29/06 | Nicole Russell

Posted on 12/29/2006 7:14:59 AM PST by teddyballgame

Like a dutiful dancing partner, Senator Barack Obama has begun courting the evangelical right, and some are already waltzing along in perfect time.

With his attendance at Rick Warren‘s church, Saddleback Valley Community, a mega-church in California for a large conference about AIDS, Obama has begun to align himself with an important base of voters to gain what conservatives lost this last year. Already lauded by some prominent evangelical publications for his outstanding "Christian faith" and a person Rick Warren called a "good friend" and a someone he'd like to work with on important issues, Obama is in perfect position, if he can keep the momentum, to use an unusual strategy for political gain.

Obama has become well-known not only for his charisma and sudden rise to fame in the last few months, but for his outspoken Christian faith to which he refers regularly.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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To: mariabush
The facts are that most REAL EVANGEICALS are highly educated people...

Luk owt 4 the speling poleese. ;-)

101 posted on 12/29/2006 10:04:17 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: evad

A lot of things are being called "Christian" these days. Down is becoming up, wrong is becoming right. Eventually most people won't even know the difference.


102 posted on 12/29/2006 10:06:38 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: raybbr

There are lots of judges besides those in the Supreme Court. And yes, there is no guarantee how the USSC will vote. That's why it is just as important for Federal District Court and Apellate Court judges to be appointed by a pro-life President. There is no need for a President to be an activist pro-life candidate. It is more important to elect pro-life congresspersons in the House of Representatives and in the Senate, backed up with pro-life strict Constitutionalist judges. There is no room for a pro-abortion President in the Republican party, that is why so many of us resist Rudy Giuliani and his ilk.


103 posted on 12/29/2006 10:08:33 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: raybbr

There are lots of judges besides those in the Supreme Court. And yes, there is no guarantee how the USSC will vote. That's why it is just as important for Federal District Court and Apellate Court judges to be appointed by a pro-life President. There is no need for a President to be an activist pro-life candidate. It is more important to elect pro-life congresspersons in the House of Representatives and in the Senate, backed up with pro-life strict Constitutionalist judges.

There is no room for a pro-abortion President in the Republican party, that is why so many of us resist Rudy Giuliani and his ilk.


104 posted on 12/29/2006 10:08:53 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Touche!


105 posted on 12/29/2006 10:09:16 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: L98Fiero

I am not too worried.

Why? He's peaking too early. He'll crash and burn.


106 posted on 12/29/2006 10:11:01 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: mariabush


Matthew 24

23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.


107 posted on 12/29/2006 10:12:02 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: Sue Perkick
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Rick Warren is a false preheat. I think that fame, fortune and success have taken their toll. Somewhere along the the way he has lost his walk with the Holy Spirit.

Anyone that can build a So. Baptist church of any size, let alone, a mega church in So. Calif. has to have had the help of the Lord along the way.
108 posted on 12/29/2006 10:18:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: mariabush

correction, fingers were too fast. preheat=prophet.


109 posted on 12/29/2006 10:19:49 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Gamecock

PING!


110 posted on 12/29/2006 10:20:10 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: hunter112
My dream scenario is that Hillary limps into the Rat convention with less than a majority, and has to stomp all over the other also-rans for a victory on, say, the fifth ballot. The black supporters of Obama refuse to work for her, or even vote for her in November, after what she did to their homeboy.

A similar situation happened in Maryland and Steele still lost.

111 posted on 12/29/2006 10:24:03 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: mariabush

Part of the point was that it IS possible for people to be mislead. The ones involved in trickery are good. Very good. We have to take heed what we hear. I don't consider Warren to be a prophet, but a teacher. And I do consider him to be a false one.

I grew up in the south & the Southern Baptist church ain't what it used to be.


112 posted on 12/29/2006 10:34:57 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: 3AngelaD

>Who is managing this guy? There has to be someone in the background calling shots.<

Untried so unproven, this very young man with stars in his eyes and a boyish grin. The same gang that has been managing presidents for at least 100 years is still pulling the strings. This guy is an appealing puppet dancing to their evil tune. Being introduced to the church by a false prophet may induce some Christians to fall in line, but there will always be those. Let us pray that most don't buy Warren's "feel good" approach.


113 posted on 12/29/2006 10:36:40 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Manic_Episode
The American Thinker and the World Net Daily (Farah)have one thing in common. They are fierce partisans for the State of Israel.

Note this about the American Thinker from their "about" section: There is no limit to the topics appearing on American Thinker. National security in all its dimensions, strategic, economic, diplomatic, and military is emphasized. The right to exist and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us. Business, science, technology, medicine, management, and economics in their practical and ethical dimensions are also emphasized, as is the state of American culture"

What Pastor Warren's real sin was he went to Syria and made some perfunctory positive remarks about the regime full well knowing the Christians from Iraq have found sanctuary in Syria. Admittedly, Syria and Assad are not open minded and tolerant but they have give sanctuary of a sort.

Ditto for Obama. With the Syria thing above as well as other matters it is apparent for the fierce Israeli partisans on this and other Web Sites will fight tooth and nail to keep the Evangelicals in the fold.

The problem for the Israeli Bots is 80% of the nonobservant Jews vote RAT and one can not turn around without some nonobservant suing some little town or city for having a creche' in the town square.

The Israeli BOTs IMHO are about to face a come uppance. Wanting Israel to succeed does not mean we have to hate either Muslims or Arabs. Further, there is increasing concern about the anti-religious efforts of nonobservant Jews--richos especially including Soros on down. We know who yor are!

The Evangelicals have been loyal but may, I say only may, be drifting off and for good reasons.

114 posted on 12/29/2006 10:41:31 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: kcbc2001
Put up a pro-abort with a pro-lifer, the pro-lifer's going to win....

In light of the fact that Obama absolutely trounced Alan Keyes with 70% of the vote compared to Keyes laughable 27%, your statement borders on the absurd.

115 posted on 12/29/2006 10:42:28 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: mariabush

"You don't know anything about real Evangelicals. They would never vote for a Democrat of any color."

Black Evangelicals and fundemntalists do vote for Dem's very commonly. Some of thm don't but nost of them do.


116 posted on 12/29/2006 10:51:25 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: mariabush

"You don't know anything about real Evangelicals. They would never vote for a Democrat of any color."

Black Evangelicals and fundemntalists do vote for Dem's very commonly. Some of thm don't but nost of them do.


117 posted on 12/29/2006 10:51:25 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: teddyballgame
Didn't Rick Warren go to either Syria or Iran not too long ago and talk to their leaders? Maybe I dreamt it?

Carolyn

118 posted on 12/29/2006 10:53:23 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: MizSterious
>>If this country buys into this scam, the country gets what it deserves.<<

I hate to break it to you, but this statement has already played out. Our country is already like the guy who jumped off a 30 story building and at the 15th floor a guy yells out a window, "How's it going?". To which the jumper replies, "So far, so good."

If my faith lied in the US and it's future, I would be depressed to the point of psychosis. Fortunately, my faith lies in someone far greater. After all, countries come and go.
119 posted on 12/29/2006 10:58:23 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: teddyballgame; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Billthedrill; AnAmericanMother
Obama has become well-known not only for his charisma and sudden rise to fame . . .

How does that go? Something like, “A celebrity is someone famous for being well known.”

120 posted on 12/29/2006 10:59:27 AM PST by dighton
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