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What Would FReepers Do? A Question to the Forum.
RFace's Life ^ | 3.17.2007 | RFace

Posted on 03/17/2007 1:44:41 PM PDT by rface

I now know what I am going to do – But I am curious as to what other FReepers might do when faced with this situation.

What will I do?? (I know what I am going to do.)

I have a cousin whom I love, and with whom I am close. I grew up with this guy. We are both in our middle 40s. We both have gone through our teen-age years with some trouble along the way – and we both now hold good jobs. We both have done pretty well – in spite of our earlier attempts at self-destruction…..and in spite of some heavy burdens that life has thrown our way.

I was married a few months ago (my 2nd…and my last) and I invited my cousin and his “significant other” to our wedding. They flew in from Boston and my wife and I were very happy to have them here to be at our wedding.

I am very close to my cousin. I also like, and get along with, his “significant other”. My Cousin and I don’t see eye-to-eye on some things, but he did vote for Bush in 2000. And we agree on a lot of taxation and financial conservative views. He’s pretty much conservative-ish….sort of…(not that his politics has anything to do with this issue) ….except that he’s gay and he sent me a wedding invitation for me and my wife to come to the wedding in Massachusetts.

My Cousin knows where I stand on the Gay Marriage issue…. And my wife shares my view. Our views are not secretly held. We both think a Marriage is between a man and woman – but we both also think “civil unions” may be an option that Gay couples should be able to utilize.

The Question: Would you go to a family members Gay Wedding under a situation like this??


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KEYWORDS: gay; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; perverts; sendmyregrets; thanksbutno; theanswerisno
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To: toldyou
Resume, character, whatever. The point being is that decision was made with regards to the character of the man she chose to marry, and had nothing to do with giving approval to the fact that a heterosexual wedding was taking place.
221 posted on 03/17/2007 6:58:15 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: rface

Pal, it's a big mistake to go. It was too bad you had to come to an Internet posting board looking for your answers. Sounds like you were just looking for someone to help justify your decision.

Be a man and do the loving moral thing. Stand up for what is right even when it's unpopular.


222 posted on 03/17/2007 7:00:09 PM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: rface

Interesting posts to be sure. I say since your cousin and his 'other' were good enough to come to your wedding ( as you requested) then you now should return the favor.

If you wanted to make a stand against his 'beliefs' you should've started by inviting him to your wedding WITHOUT his 'other'. So I can't see how you can now say they're not good enough to 'accept'.

OTOH the chances of this marriage lasting too long are practically nil, but your cousin will always be your cousin and could probably benefit from your future counsel when his 'failed' marriage occurs.


223 posted on 03/17/2007 7:00:40 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Silly

I know it's apples and oranges, but I was trying to get him to imagine the situation from another point of view. I don't see what you mean about Freepers being like leftists on this thread, but I do see some compassion, and that's what conservatism is all about. Conserving what's good in life, not throwing out the baby with the bathwater in the name of progress. "Family warmth and closeness" would definitely qualify as "good".

As conservatives (and as decent human beings) we deplore the left's attack on the family unit. Everyone has that in common here. The gay agenda is certain part of that attack. But I don't think that God nor the cause of conservatism would be best served by his beloved cousin's absence on the most important day of this man's life.



224 posted on 03/17/2007 7:06:33 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Gorzaloon
I would go because real love is unconditional.

True, that does not mean that we cannot place conditions on the people we love. They receive our love unconditionally, but we don't accept everything they do. It is not the same thing He can still love his cousin and not attend.

In fact, real love requires that you do that right thing for the person, even at your own expense. In this situation, not attending is doing the right thing. Attending is helping the cousin feel better about his very wrong decision -- a decision that may cost him his soul if he does not one day repent and leave the man.

225 posted on 03/17/2007 7:06:52 PM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: Silly

Good point.


226 posted on 03/17/2007 7:07:42 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Either it's apples and oranges (two different situations) or it's not (it's the same situation seen from another point of view). You're not thinking.

Your views are terribly, terribly flawed and based in sentimentalism, not good.

Conservatism is not, in and of itself, a good. Obeying God is what is good.

I'm not saying he should throw away his relationship with his cousin. His cousin is the one throwing away his life, and placing all his decent relationships at an impasse where he is forcing them to go along or threaten the relationship. Not a loving thing for a cousin to do.

The cousin has shoved everyone into a corner. He has publicly identified himself as gay, thereby stating a moral position on the issue and challenging people he KNOWS disapprove of gay relationships to CELEBRATE the ultimate gay sin -- A MOCK WEDDING. If he were more sensitive, as people were in the past, he would live his life quietly and privately and not confront everyone.

Decent human beings do not stand by silent while their loved ones make gigantic errors which threaten their physical and spiritual existance. They don't play along so's not to offend.

It may be the most important day of the man's life, true -- it is the day he formally, publically and shameless stood against God and his ways, and the ways of nature, and threw his soul into the toilet.

God help you sentimental boobs.


227 posted on 03/17/2007 7:14:45 PM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: Silly
read my original post. I didn't come here looking for any answer. I stated ..... twice .... that I had made my decision about what I was going to do, but I was curious about what others would do in a similar situation.

My decision was made.... I did not make this post looking for advise. I don't need and silly advise.

228 posted on 03/17/2007 7:22:21 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: whatisthetruth

they have been together for at least 15 years already......maybe 20 years


229 posted on 03/17/2007 7:24:09 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface

The long and short of it is that I would go. You have accepted him as he is or you would not have invited him to your wedding, knowing he had a male partner. He would probably not fault you if you declined for whatever reason but it would be hard for you to live with that decision. While this has been an interesting thread it is incomplete without knowing how you arrived at your decision to go and what is your wifes take on all this?


230 posted on 03/17/2007 7:24:53 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless President George Bush)
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To: Silly
God help you sentimental boobs.

I am not gay. I like boobs.....

231 posted on 03/17/2007 7:26:46 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: Gorzaloon
Would you refuse to go to the wedding of a person who had been an adulterer? A murderer? A thief? He does not condone those, either.

I am not sure I have an opinion on the question stated in the original post, but I wanted to respond to your opinion. As a Christian I would not hesitate to go to the wedding of an adulterer, murderer, or thief under certain circumstances. These things have nothing to do with whether a mrriage is legitimate in the eyes of God. One can be the worst pagan on earth and his marriage is still acceptable to God. There is nothing in the Bible that says two non-Christians can't marry. Homosexual marriage, however, is something that is impossible, because God defined it differently.

232 posted on 03/17/2007 7:28:30 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: rface; duckman

You found the right answer at post #4.


233 posted on 03/17/2007 7:28:41 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: rface

I'm a man and said go.


234 posted on 03/17/2007 7:29:03 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: mountainfolk
I came to my conclusion because I love my cousin, and I won't let this be a reason for a conflict.

He knows how I view gay marriage....and I am sure that he knows that I am not there to show any support for a gay marriage movement - he knows I will be there because he is my cousin. This reason is enough.

.My wife says that a Marriage should be between a man and woman --- and we pretty much agree that there is a place for civil unions. We're going together

235 posted on 03/17/2007 7:34:47 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: Silly

"We cannot compromise on matters of morality. "



I don't know who "we" is, My post was to a guy and his close buddy, his cousin.


236 posted on 03/17/2007 7:44:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: rface
they have been together for at least 15 years already......maybe 20 years

Ouch! That one hurt. Oh well there goes that argument, but one can always hope, eh?

237 posted on 03/17/2007 8:03:13 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Silly
[... Attending makes the affirmative point of participating in their mad little fantasy. ..]

All weddings are fantasies..
Marriage is about children, Gay lifestyle is about Sex..
Ceremony means nothing.. its a costume ball..

God invented marriage and watches over it..
Any commitment is blessed or not by God..
You can marry an Alligator and a Scorpion it means nothing..
God is not a Moron..

238 posted on 03/17/2007 8:24:03 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: rface

I have learned a lot of positive things from these responses. After reading them, I would say if it is a civil ceremony I would go, but if it is going to be a "religious" ceremony, I honestly don't know. That would be hard. Maybe I still would. But a civil ceremony would be far less of a problem for me. He did come to yours.


239 posted on 03/17/2007 8:27:28 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: rface

"Would you go to a family members Gay Wedding under a situation like this??"

Yes. There are more important things in life than politics. Family is one of them.

Fortunately, I don't have any gays in the family, so I never will face the dilemma myself.


240 posted on 03/17/2007 8:27:32 PM PDT by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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