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Duo planning 1,000 days alone at sea
AP via Yahoo ^ | 04/21/07 | VERENA DOBNIK

Posted on 04/21/2007 11:50:52 AM PDT by Abathar

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To: Bigg Red

If her parents do disapprove of the relationship, I don’t think the girl is going let the press in on that detail.


81 posted on 04/21/2007 8:55:13 PM PDT by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, our government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Michael.SF.
Ah, quintessential Patton! - He is a personal hero of mine! I taught myself to sail a 16 footer I rescued and fixed up.

Sailed right up to Hoover Dam and back out.

Someone later told me that was nutz.... I guess the Lord does protect fools.

Anyway the boat from your story is for sale.

WHEN AND IF is an Alden designed schooner, built by FF Pendleton in Wiscasset, Maine for Colonel and Mrs. George S. Patton. She was launched in 1939 and the Pattons planned to sail her around the world "when and if" Patton returned from the war that he saw looming in Europe.

Patton, by then a General, was killed in a freak accident shortly after the end of the war and WHEN AND IF was sailed by Mrs. Patton for some years. Mrs. Patton gave the schooner to her brother Frederick Ayer, who sailed her along the New England Coast, eventually donating her to the Landmark School for use in their Watermark Program for dyslexic kids - Patton himself was dyslexic.

In 1990 she was wrecked north of Boston. Subsequent owners had her rebuilt by Gannon & Benjamin Boatyard in Vineyard Haven, MA. Recently purchased by a family from New Jersey she has been refitted during the winter of 2005 -2006 and is in immaculate condition.

She is a superbly seaworthy and comfortable vessel with long keel, gaff foresail and Marconi main. Measuring 63' 5" x 47' 3" x 15' 1" x 9', plus bowsprit and boomkin, she displaces 43 tons and carries about 1700 square feet of sail area. WHEN AND IF has wide decks, a large cockpit, high bulwarks, and a doghouse in addition to her commodious accommodations.

WHEN AND IF is Coast Guard licensed and inspected to carry 17 guests and 3 crew on near shore routes during day light hours.

From Time magazine, April 12, 1943 "He had always done things the hard way, and the spectacular. When he was ordered to Hawaii, he bought a 40-foot sailboat, boned up on navigation, and sailed out. He still has a sailboat tied up against future leisure—the When and If, it is called."

The Nation lost a lost when he died.

82 posted on 04/21/2007 10:19:13 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: ASOC
Anyway the boat from your story is for sale.

Wow! Thanks. I would love to buy it, WHEN and IF I could afford it!

83 posted on 04/22/2007 12:05:23 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: RebekahT

If her parents do disapprove of the relationship, I don’t think the girl is going let the press in on that detail.

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True.

I just wish these young women would start demanding more respect from men instead of just hopping in the sack.


84 posted on 04/22/2007 6:51:41 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: Abathar
Re: "One of those previous voyages was a 200-day trip with his wife in 1999. They’re divorced now, but she gave him and Ahmad a life raft for their journey, and planned to be on the dock to wave goodbye Saturday."

Is she for it or a'gin it?

85 posted on 04/22/2007 7:09:58 AM PDT by Bender2 (A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
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To: ASOC; Michael.SF.
Here are some photos of WHEN AND IF, now available for charter:


86 posted on 04/22/2007 8:39:46 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: rawhide
Here is another picture of the guy, and he looks different from your photos.

I would guess that it's an older picture. I would like to always look like I do in my older pictures.

Unfortunately, we should assume that the photo of the man who is now balding and not as good looking is the more recent photo of the 55 year old. Especially since the man in your photo doesn't look to be over 40.

I would guess that the Captain looks more like my photo than yours, but I could be wrong.

It doesn't matter, he's about to spend 3 years with a nice looking gal and he appears to be a happy fellow.

Whichever picture is accurate, I wish them both smooth sailing.

87 posted on 04/22/2007 12:11:54 PM PDT by Overseez
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To: ASOC
I give it 3 months.

Or one missed menstrual cycle - whichever comes first.

88 posted on 04/22/2007 12:25:22 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Abathar
Acquaintances David and Daniel Hays know of this adventure in a much smaller craft and scale... My Old Man and the Sea.

From what I have read about Stowe/Ahmad, spiritually the couple may have a chance. But I would never, ever attempt a voyage of this magnitude with a greenhorn. In an emergency, any emergency, a new hand is going to be completely worthless. And there will be emergencies.

Sounds like Stowe is having a midlife crisis ... the kind where a guy goes out and buys a Corvette. There aren't very many records to break, so this may be his chance. [/very opinionated opinion]

89 posted on 04/22/2007 3:59:58 PM PDT by Daffynition (What makes the universe so hard to comprehend is that there's nothing to compare it with.)
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To: ErnBatavia

See my post 61.


90 posted on 04/22/2007 10:11:42 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Abathar

Just checking in ... have they returned to port yet?


91 posted on 04/26/2007 11:04:22 AM PDT by Daffynition (“A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere.”)
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To: rainbow sprinkles
Hehehe, nope not yet. The navy buzzed them in a plane and told them to get out of their live fire exercise area though, seemed to explain to them why there wasn't any other ships anywhere near them.

I had to chuckle at that, she has already got sea sick once during a little blow, complaining about the lose stuff bouncing around the cabin. If we start a pool my bet is >180 days tops.

92 posted on 04/26/2007 11:33:51 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Abathar
LOL ... you think that long? I'll wager you a bottle of dramamine that it will be closer to 30 days.

I've done a fair amount of sailing in my time and there is NO way I would take a new hand. [/ shaking head in disbelief]

93 posted on 04/26/2007 12:05:00 PM PDT by Daffynition (“The existence of the sea means the existence of pirates”)
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To: nomorelurker

selfping for later


94 posted on 04/26/2007 2:36:44 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: rainbow sprinkles
You wanted to know if they quit yet, well seems they went to bed and got woken up rudely when they collided with a freighter in the middle of the Atlantic, so its in to shore for repairs...
95 posted on 05/09/2007 9:37:46 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Abathar
You wanted to know if they quit yet, well seems they went to bed and got woken up rudely when they collided with a freighter in the middle of the Atlantic, so its in to shore for repairs...

It's kinda hard to hit the sack together and still keep someone on watch. Too damn funny.

96 posted on 05/09/2007 9:41:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Reeses

You can’t see it in that pic, but I’m betting there is a pony tail on the back of the Sailor man’s head.

I’m just sayin’...


97 posted on 05/09/2007 9:48:50 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Abathar
A three year trip?

That is utter insanity. Why would anyone even WANT to do that?
98 posted on 05/09/2007 9:58:31 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: dirtboy
I always thought that these days they have small radar units that will beep if anything gets too close. I sure as heck wouldn’t want to go to sleep and just let the thing drift around and have to rely on the other guy to miss you.
99 posted on 05/09/2007 10:07:58 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Abathar

There still ain’t no substitute for a set of eyes.


100 posted on 05/09/2007 10:12:58 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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