Posted on 07/23/2007 2:27:03 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
Welfare State
New Orleans
Children as commodities
Lets change that in a generation
I have always thought the tobacco industry should pick just one state.... say New York, and refuse to sell tobacco in any form there. Just plain cut them off.
Then see how well the politicos like it... no cigarette taxes, all the border states raking in the taxes, and lots and lots and lots of addicts screaming at them day and night. (spoken as a former addict/ but still smoker’s rights advocate)
Gives FDA explicit authority to ban nicotine.
Ya gotta love these nanny-statists who have no idea what they are talking about.
Pray tell, how can the FDA ban a substance that is naturally occurring in nature?
Enzi doesn't have a snowball's chance - the Pharmaceutical companies will see to it that this goes NOWHERE.
Now to read the thread :)
Cap and trade politicians; work about as well as trying it on volcanoes.
I am fascinated by tobacco crops... (sounds stupid I know) I've tried growing some and it's not like you can just throw in the ground and expect it to make a go, right? How long do you have to cure it before it's ready?
That is a brilliant idea.
Well actually there has always been the idea there
was a subsidy,because there was what was called a
price support program where if the tobacco didn`t
bring the support price it went into the gov warehouse
where it would later sell.
It`s my understanding it didn`t cost the taxpayer as
it was eventually sold at the price the gov paid.
What the hell does New Orleans have to do with this. I really wish that damned hurricane had never happened, for one thing, it hurt alot of people I knew, and it gave people who had never been to this part of the world a reason in their own mind to justifying tearing it down to make themselves feel better.
You want to tear down New Orleans, fine, the minute they empty out San Francisco and Los Angeles for earthquake danger, Las Vegas and Phoenix because they could only exist with modern technology, St. Louis and Memphis because they are in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, Hawaii and Alaska because of the tsunami risk, Minnesota because of the bitter cold. When you convince people to leave all these places, then by all means, you’ll have a right to ask New Orleans to go away. However, if you’re not willing to see L.A and New York go by the wayside (incidentally, NYC is vulnerable to earthquakes and hurricanes), then don’t begin to talk about New Orleans.
It can not be done because of the Master Settlement Agreement, at least not by the signatories to the MSA. Not until at least 2024 when the agreement expires.
America’s two party system in 2007: Socialists and Socialist-lites
Another big government nanny state statist. LEAVE THE PEOPLE ALONE. This country is DEAD.
>>>once the grant junkies see that the FDA would have the power to BAN NICOTINE from cigarettes
What will they do about tomatoes? Artichokes? Tobacco is not the only nightshade plant with nicotine.
So BAFT is going to monitor our gardens?
Republicans will lose when they try to be democrats.
Hopefully, in his retirement from the US Senate, this bozo will be able to contemplate the notion of leaving other people alone.
Wouldn't the same all assault by the govt. on alcohol sales save more lives, prevent domestic violence, prevent vehicular homicides, reduce the risk of ............? You name it.
Alcohol consumption has killed more people, ruined more lives, destroyed more families, helped to contribute to spouse abuse, child abuse, and resulted in alcohol rage induced homicides than ten centuries of tobacco use will ever create.......
Unfortunately everybody (almost everybody) likes alcohol, tobacco users are the modern day Jews that need to be purged by the modern day nico-nazi's......
My anger grows!
I see what you're saying about cost, though. Assuming it gets sold at the supported price, the cost structure is certainly different than it would have been in a pure subsidy program.
Now it makes sense. I fell asleep after reading the first 44 pages of the MSA agreement.
Me too. My only guess is that this Enzi guy is in someone’s pocket.
Like I said earlier, I really think Enzi is up to something more genius....namely exposing hypocritical anti-smoking groups who were on board with the Kennedy bill backed by Philip Morris.
Click on the link to Dr. Siegels blog. The whole thing is really quite fascinating/disgusting if you have the stomach for it.
I started reading the first drafts of that bad boy back in the early 90s. Somewhere I still have a hard copy of it, not that I plan on looking for it anytime soon :)
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