Posted on 08/27/2007 1:37:39 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
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Guess What Folks--Secesson Wasn't Treason by Al Benson Jr.
More and more of late I have been reading articles dealing with certain black racist groups that claim to have the best interests of average black folks at heart (they really don't). It seems these organizations can't take time to address the problems of black crime in the black community or of single-parent families in the black community in any meaningful way. It's much more lucrative for them (and it gets more press coverage) if they spend their time and resources attacking Confederate symbols. Ive come to the conclusion that they really don't give a rip for the welfare of black families. They only use that as a facade to mask their real agenda--the destruction of Southern, Christian culture.
Whenever they deal with questions pertaining to history they inevitably come down on that same old lame horse that the South was evil because they seceded from the Union--and hey--everybody knows that secession was treason anyway. Sorry folks, but that old line is nothing more than a gigantic pile of cow chips that smells real ripe in the hot August sun! And I suspect that many of them know that--they just don't want you to know it--all the better to manipulate you my dear!
It is interesting that those people never mention the fact that the New England states threatened secession three times--that's right three times--before 1860. In 1814 delegates from those New England states actually met in Hartford, Connecticut to consider seceding from the Union. Look up the Hartford Convention of 1814 on the Internet if you want a little background. Hardly anyone ever mentions the threatened secession of the New England states. Most "history" books I've seen never mention it. Secession is never discussed until 1860 when it suddenly became "treasonous" for the Southern states to do it. What about the treasonous intent of the New England states earlier? Well, you see, it's only treasonous if the South does it.
Columnist Joe Sobran, whom I enjoy, once wrote an article in which he stated that "...Jefferson was an explicit secessionist. For openers he wrote a famous secessionist document known to posterity as the Declaration of Independence." If these black racist groups are right, that must mean that Jefferson was guilty of treason, as were Washington and all these others that aided them in our secession from Great Britain. Maybe the black racists all wish they were still citizens of Great Britain. If that's the case, then as far as I know, the airlines are still booking trips to London, so nothing is stopping them.
After the War of Northern Aggression against the South was over (at least the shooting part) the abolitionist radicals in Washington decided they would try Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States as a co-conspirator in the Lincoln assassination (which would have been just great for Edwin M. Stanton) and as a traitor for leading the secessionist government in Richmond, though secession had hardly been original with Mr. Davis. However, trying Davis for treason as a secessionist was one trick the abolitionist radicals couldn't quite pull off.
Burke Davis, (no relation to Jeff Davis that I know of) in his book The Long Surrender on page 204, noted a quote by Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, telling Edwin Stanton that "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason." Burke Davis then continued on page 214, noting that a congressiona committee proposed a special court for Davis' trial, headed by Judge Franz Lieber. Davis wrote: "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty,' Lieber reported 'and we shall stand there completely beaten'." What the radical Yankees and their lawyers were admitting among themselves (but quite obviously not for the historical record) was that they and Lincoln had just fought a war of aggression agains the Southern states and their people, a war that had taken or maimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans, both North and South, and they had not one shread of constitutional justification for having done so, nor had they any constitutional right to have impeded the Southern states when they chose to withdraw from a Union for which they were paying 83% of all the expenses, while getting precious little back for it, save insults from the North.
Most of us detest big government or collectivism. Yet, since the advent of the Lincoln administration we have been getting ever increasing doses of it. Lincoln was, in one sense, the "great emancipator" in that he freed the federal government from any chains the constitution had previously bound it with, so it could now roam about unfettered "seeking to devous whoseover it could." And where the Founders sought to give us "free and independent states" is anyone naive enough anymore as to think the states are still free and independent? Those who honestly still think that are prime candidates for belief in the Easter Bunny, for he is every bit as real as is the "freedom" our states experience at this point in history. Our federal government today is even worse than what our forefathers went to war against Britain to prevent. And because we have been mostly educated in their government brain laundries (public schools) most still harbor the illusion that they are "free." Well, as they say, "the brainwashed never wonder." ___________________
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the FACTS are that you are thought to be a FOOL, a BIGOT, a south-HATER & a "general all-around CREEP" by virtually every person, who bothers to read your posts.
face it, "bubba" your REPUTATION is that of a BIGOT, a FOOL & a KNOWING, intentional,constant, LIAR. further, you did that to YOURSELF; the FAULT is YOURS & that of no other FReeper.
laughing AT you, LIAR.
free dixie,sw
What bigoted thing have I ever said? Unlike you, who trumpets your hate here on a daily basis.
So where did Tyrone Brown teach again?
fyi, that IS your REPUTATION. face it, "bubba, the LIAR", you are RUINED forever on FR, by ADMITTING that you:
1. COMMITTED a CRIMINAL FRAUD while trying to win an argument with me on a WBTS thread,
2. returned to FR under a different "alias" AFTER you were PERMANENTLT BANNED by FR management &
3. would do/say almost anything to "get ahead" in an argument.
keep saying over & over till you get through your thick head: "NOBODY believes me, NOBODY believes me, etc.etc. etc." UNTIL you get it. THEN say to everyone, "I'm a KNOWING, intentional, LIAR & I'm SORRY that I've ever been such a general, all-around CREEP. i therefore, am LEAVING this forum forever. (signed) "Bubba, the SELF-confessed LIAR"".
fwiw, hardly ANYBODY on FR will read, much less post TO you. doesn't that give you a CLUE, about how you are SEEN by others here???? you REALLY belong on "moveon.com", "DU" and/or the A.N.S.W.E.R. websites. so, BE GONE, CREEP!!!
laughing AT you, CREEP/FOOL/LIAR.
free dixie,sw
answering that (TRUTHFULLY) should make you REALLY "well thought of", not that your REPUTATION could be any worse than it is now.
the ONLY response that i'm interested in reading from you is WHEN you are LEAVING FR forever, after admitting that you are/have been a SERIAL, remorseless, LIAR & general, all-around,CREEP.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
face it, "bubba, the LIAR",almost NOBODY (who is DECENT & honorable) wants to "roll in the muck" with the likes of YOU. (i post to you ONLY to make the "unionist fanatics & DAMNyankee coven members" LOOK WORSE than they already appear to the other FReepers.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
I love that "(emphasis: MINE)," swattie. I was going to comment on how strange it is that you and your imaginary friend share the same preference for typography.
However, you beat me to it with your clever ruse. Still, you and he do share a colorful vocabulary ...
But if your friend has read Bubba's stuff, how about he posts here himself to express his opinion?
He's too angry to? Well, that's convenient ...
one comment he made REF: "the synagogue issue" was that he felt that "bubba" was INCAPABLE of understanding (fwiw, i told S that i believed that "bubba" was smart enough to understand that concept BUT that he was just plain DISHONEST & a BIGOT. otoh, i suspect, based solely on the NONSENSE that you post, that you are NOT smart enough to understand that rather simple distinction.)that a CONGREGATION was NOT the same as a building.
just out of curiosity, don't you get tired of virtually EVERYONE on these threads believing you to be a DUMB-bunny & the most obvious/complete FOOL on the forum???
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
By the way, Article 5 of the Constitution says nothing about state sovereignty or anything along the lines of your last post.
“You see, all of your yammering is about governmental power”.
Well all of this is about governmental power. States versus federal. Or more accurately the pov of some that the constitution gives states more governmental power than they actually have. BTW the constitution TELLS states that they have to have republican governments otherwise your state government could be a dictatorship. You take for granted that the constitution limits federal powers when it also limits state powers. THE PEOPLE(all the people) are defended against both.
“The Declaration stated that the SEAT of power is “THE PEOPLE” and that governments are created by consent only.”
Again. THE PEOPLE. Not the peoples of the various states. The people of the WHOLE union. The Articles of Confederation AND PERPETUAL UNION include “perpetual union” in its title. When that didn’t work out they made the constitution(in order to increase federal power) which refers to “a more perfect union”. That means a more perfect perpetual union. That means forever unless all of the people dissolve it.
“It further states that governments are endowed with “just” powers (just means limited)in order to secure life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
I have no argument with that. It limits state powers. All laws should be just whether passed by the states or the federal government. The constituton demands that states have republican forms of government. Wouldn’t you agree that runs against your position that states should be allowed to do whatever they want? That its merely a treaty or compact? Nonsense. The constitution was designed to protect THE PEOPLE from both the federal and state governments. That means we are ALL in this together.
” What you propose is that the government has to say it is okay for a State or party to leave a “voluntary” union.”
You seem to think that I think that there should only be a federal government or that states should be subservient to it. I don’t. I think that BOTH should be subservient to THE PEOPLE. Our nation. The constitution allows for the people to let a state or states leave the union voluntarily but it must come from all the people of the nation.
“The Founders never intended for the Federal government to be all powerful, hence they put the Bill of Rights on the Constitution, Read Amendment 9 and 10. Show me where it states the government has all power.”
You keep saying “the government”. Which government are you refering to? The Founders also never intended the state governments to be all powerful. They tried that with the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union. The founders improved on it. Amendment 10 points out that there are 3 players. The federal, the states and THE PEOPLE.
no matter how much you may WISH that that was not the case, you are mistaken & a "victim" of the LEFTIST/statist/REVISIONIST, DIMocRATs & FASCISTS like the "hilleryBEAST", who would STEAL your/everybody's FREEDOM, by making you/me a "SUBJECT" of an all-powerful union..
i invite you to read the 10th Amendment to the BOR, which should tell you ALL you need to know about LIBERTY & the PRIMACY of the STATES/CITIZENS.
free dixie,sw
Uh-oh, this article is going to give “non sequitur” the fantods.
coincidence??? OR could it be that you KNOWINGLY tried another one of your "patented" CLUMSY, INTENTIONAL, STUPID LIES, in this case, "by omission"????
laughing AT you, "bubba, the LIAR/FOOL/BIGOT".
free dixie,sw
“coincidence??? OR could it be that you KNOWINGLY tried another one of your “patented” CLUMSY, INTENTIONAL, STUPID LIES, in this case, “by omission”????
laughing AT you, “bubba, the LIAR/FOOL/BIGOT”.”
SW. Curious. What color is the sky that the black helicopters and white vans in your world operate?
free dixie,sw
Try this one on for size.
How Libertarians Ought To Think About The U.S. Civil War
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1898013/posts
Well SW I am a “smile when you say that” kinda southern boy and you ain’t smilin when you post the things you do. Always loved that phrase. Can’t beat the south for turning a good phrase. It means, we can argue all you want but if you come close to saying something that is offensive, you better at least make it seem like you are joking. You don’t do that. Ever.
i have NO problem with a person being wrong. (i'm frequently mistaken, as most honest people will admit to.) BUT, i have a REAL problem with a person KNOWINGLY LYING, when it is for the purpose of CRIMINAL FRAUD, promoting a BIGOTED agenda and/or for private revenge against someone, whom they simply disagree with.
finally, i will defend my family from DISHONEST, hate-FILLED, attacks from "all comers".
fact.
free dixie,sw
the southrons here on FR have been treated WITHOUT DIGNITY by the BIGOTS/south-HATERS/arrogantly ignorant "unionists" & some who were/ARE radical LEFTISTS as well.
free dixie,sw
what lincoln did was no better/worse than what "the hilleryBEAST" will do, should she become POTUS in 1/09. (SHUDDER at that thought!!!)
the TRUTH is that the STATES created the central government. what FREE STATES can CREATE, they can also modify, remove themselves from (SOLEY "at their own motion") or ABOLISH, should that union cease to meet their NEEDS and/or should that union become TOO POWERRFUL!!!
it's really NO more complicated than that. that's the REAL meaning of the 10th Amendment to the BOR.
free dixie,sw
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