Big Giuliani problem: Who cares about NY City?

John Seiler ^ | October 22, 2007 | John Seiler

[Fishrrman]

if it comes down to Rudy or Mrs. Clinton, you’ll hold your nose like me and pull the lever for Rudy.
Horse pooh of a choice.

Um... how does that old saying go?
"He may be an S.O.B., but at least he's OUR S.O.B."

Works for me.

- John (who will support the Republican nominee in '08)

[Fishrrman]

And, what did Rudy ever do to clean up crime, other than assault Second Amendment rights?

Well, for one thing, Giuliani turned to professor James Q. Wilson's "broken window theory": that one broken window in a building only invites more windows to be broken.

Taking a cue from that, Giuliani got the police department to go after low-level "street nuisance" crimes and misdemeanors that were destroying life in the city. The prime example is the "squeegee men" who would descend upon drivers at intersections, try to wash your car windows, demand payment for doing so, and get belligerent if you refused. Also panhandlers, etc.

By taking steps to restore civil order at the lowest levels, the public perception began to change, to turn to almost being optimistic about the city's future.

He was also able to initiate police procedures that improved the cops' ability to put a dent in serious crimes, as well.

I've never been a lover of the big cities, New York City in particular. I have worked there regularly since 1979, in and out of Manhattan and also for a number of years in the Oak Point/Hunts Point area of the South Bronx. So I'm not a New Yorker per se. But I have seen the changes that the Giuliani administration wrought there, and they were amazing.

Who could ever have thought that the city of the Dinkins era - a crumbling, hopeless, "ungovernable" place - could enjoy a new Rennaissance?

- John

[Ol' Sparky]

Who could ever have thought that the city of the Dinkins era - a crumbling, hopeless, "ungovernable" place - could enjoy a new Rennaissance?

But, the crime rate was dropping from 1990 to 1993 while Dinkins was still mayor.

[Pistolshot]

By the way, did you know that Thompson backed the the Trail Lawyers/Tort lobby right down the line to defeat Tort Reform on every effort during his time in the Senate.

By the way, did you know those bills were to address STATE tort laws and Fred doesn't think the FEDERAL government has any business involving themselves in STATE matters?

We all know you don't like Fred, but your continued BS is tiresome.

[bluejay]

> By the way, did you know those bills were to address STATE tort laws and Fred doesn’t think the FEDERAL government has any business involving themselves in STATE matters?

I don’t think it is possible for individual states to address this issue. You will always be able to sue a company in a state that did not pass torte reform. In fact, the states without torte reforms will be able to generate extra income from these lawsuits making it beneficial for them not to pass torte reform and undermining reforms in the states that did pass them.