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Redstate.com bans new Ron Paul supporters
Politico ^ | October 23, 2007 | Ryan Grim

Posted on 10/23/2007 9:41:03 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

The ubiquitous and web-savvy supporters of Ron Paul now have one less forum in which to vent their rage.

The influential conservative blog Redstate.com placed a ban last night on all Paul commentary from readers who are recent arrivals to the blog.

Paul's followers are angry that the Libertarian congressman can’t seem to get traction in national polls as he bids for the Republican presidential nomination.

Paul — a representative from Texas who ran for president in 1988 on the Libertarian Party ticket — remains mired in the low single digits.

The post on Redstate, “Attention, Ron Paul Supporters (Life is *REALLY* Not Fair),” begins, “Effective immediately, new users may *not* shill for Ron Paul in any way shape, form or fashion. Not in comments, not in diaries, nada. If your account is less than 6 months old, you can talk about something else, you can participate in the other threads and be your zany libertarian self all you want, but you cannot pimp Ron Paul. Those with accounts more than six months old may proceed as normal.”

Redstate founder Erick Erickson said he woke up this morning bombed with hundreds of e-mails, “the overwhelming majority very angry.” His own readers, though, loved the ban.

“It is the most recommended user diary in Redstate history,” he said.

Paul's energetic online supporters managed to help him raise more than $5 million in the third quarter of this year, roughly tying Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

They’ve also ticked off an awful lot of people, including, apparently, Leon H. Wolf at Redstate, who calls them “annoying, time-consuming, and bandwidth-wasting.”

Wolf writes he is tired of “responding to the same idiotic arguments from a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans.”

Erickson said that he and the regular Redstate readers had just had enough.

“They’re terribly annoying and they don’t add to the debate. If people are adding to the debate we don’t have a problem with them coming here. But they’re just coming to promote Ron Paul. They talk over everyone. They yell at everyone,” he said.

Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said he questioned "the judgment of the decision," but added: "They are a private entity and they are certainly within their rights to do as they see fit.

"I'm sure there are a few Ron Paul supporters who get a little shrill," Benton said . "All we can control is what comes from our campaign."

The ban against Paul-supporting is not categorical, Erickson and Wolf made clear.

“Hey, we’re sure *some* of Ron Paul’s supporters really are Republicans. They can post at any one of a zillion Ron Paul online forums. Those who have *earned* our respect by contributing usefully for a substantial period of time will be listened to with appropriate respect. Those who have not will have to *earn* that respect by contributing usefully in the other threads ... and not mentioning Ron Paul. Given a month of solid contributing, send one of us an email and we’ll consider lifting the restriction on your account,” Wolf writes.

Wolf then shut down the comment thread for the post to avoid the deluge of irritation that was headed his way.

Erickson forwarded to Politico a number of the e-mails as examples of that irritation. “You are banning FREE SPEECH. Perhaps next you can forbid discussion of Democratic candidate names. It is a sad day for America when hypocrites who think they are right try to shovel their propaganda onto the rest of us. What goes around comes around,” wrote one reader with an e-mail exchange at socialheart.com.

Erickson finds this sort of complaint hypocritical itself. “So much for their respect for private property,” he said.


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To: Kitanis
What is it about him that scares the “conservatives”?

I've often wondered the same thing, especially here at FR. The man is trying to keep his oath to defend the constitution and all he gets are the ad hominem attacks. The other candidates can embrace eveything from abortion to amnesty and remain top tier (snort) candidates, single digit also ran's but never nutcases.

41 posted on 10/24/2007 4:20:59 AM PDT by Redhd2
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To: West Coast Conservative
Very understandable treatment in the case of MANY (but not all) Paulestinians. Whether they are dishonest, delusional, dense or PUI (Posting Under the Influence) they are deadenders existing beyond the realm of reason.
42 posted on 10/24/2007 5:10:45 AM PDT by drpix
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To: West Coast Conservative
Good for Redstate.org. Jim R. is a more patient host than I would be. Whack!
43 posted on 10/24/2007 5:16:35 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: dixiechick2000

I too would never vote for McCain


44 posted on 10/24/2007 5:49:19 AM PDT by Kitanis
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To: West Coast Conservative

45 posted on 10/24/2007 5:53:19 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: Jim Robinson
You mind if I quote you over and over and over and over?

Antiwar activism is no more welcome on FR than is abortion activism, gay rights activism, gun control activism or any other leftist/socialist cause.

46 posted on 10/24/2007 6:30:43 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: deport; jimrob
I doubt people are scared of the Paul fellar..... many just don’t agree with his approach on some major issues I suspect.

It is not fear, it is concern that enough people will drink his koolaid (even 1%-2%) that it could split Conservative votes enough to hand Rudy the nomination for our party. The last thing that I want to do is hand the Stormfront/Anti-War/Anti-Israel/Truther/Bircher/Buchananites any sort of victory, even a symbolic one where they can claim to have 'made a difference' (ie, by effecting the vote away from Conservatives.) I believe that there are just enough good Conservatives who have bought into Paul's shtick that it may actually affect the primaries.

47 posted on 10/24/2007 6:34:42 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gosh, can’t imagine why.


48 posted on 10/24/2007 6:36:11 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It’s actually not possible for leftists (”liberals”) to “add to the discussion”.

Their ideology is indefensible at a logical/issue based level, so they must trot out their victims to whine, or hide their agenda behind something else, usually equally flimsy (ie, global socialism hiding behind global warming).

Once you discount the “hate Bush” motive, there’s nothing left.


49 posted on 10/24/2007 6:36:32 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent.


50 posted on 10/24/2007 6:38:54 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Spam Happy Paul supporters brought it on themselves.
51 posted on 10/24/2007 6:41:31 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
You know that sooner or later, the Paultards will abuse and misuse anything they can to promote their new religion.
52 posted on 10/24/2007 6:41:51 AM PDT by lormand (100% Cajun Power!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Wolf writes he is tired of “responding to the same idiotic arguments from a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans.”

Wouldn't he therefore ban Giuliani supporters?

53 posted on 10/24/2007 6:42:11 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

54 posted on 10/24/2007 6:48:30 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Brandie
You hit the nail on the head. OnTheIssues.org has rated Ron Paul a 'Moderate Libertarian'

The American Conservative Union rated Ron Paul only 76 last year and his lifetime rating was never above 82

http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#TX

55 posted on 10/24/2007 6:55:24 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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Bump!


56 posted on 10/24/2007 6:57:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Drango; elhombrelibre; mnehrling; lormand; ejonesie22
I wish, I wish, I wish FR would do the same.

So do I. We have enough Ron Paul anti-war spam monkeys as it is. And they all say pretty much the same thing.

57 posted on 10/24/2007 7:22:05 AM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
“responding to the same idiotic arguments from a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans.”

Nailed it on the head, didn't he?

58 posted on 10/24/2007 7:38:23 AM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra
I saw where a US Moslem group was endorsing Ron Paul on its website. I wish his supporters would go there instead of here since they’ve more in common with those types of people. If not there, there are plenty of Nazi websites that share the great Guru’s views. FREEPERs who support Run Paul should enjoy the company of their fellow travelers.
59 posted on 10/24/2007 7:43:24 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: Kitanis
"But to call his supporters Nuts only disenfranchise people."

To make believe that Ron Paul 08' is not a refuge for America's kookiest nutballs is colossal stupidity.

Thank God for Freepers because they call it as they see it.

60 posted on 10/24/2007 8:15:57 AM PDT by lormand ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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