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House passes H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
Government Printing Office Web Site ^ | October 23, 2007 | Reps. Jane Harman (D-Venice) and Dave Reichert (R-Bellevue)

Posted on 10/27/2007 12:08:14 PM PDT by TaxesR2High

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Oct 23, 2007: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by roll call vote. The vote was held under a suspension of the rules to cut debate short and pass the bill, needing a two-thirds majority. The totals were 404 Ayes, 6 Nays, 22 Present/Not Voting.
1 posted on 10/27/2007 12:08:17 PM PDT by TaxesR2High
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3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Too broadly worded.

2 posted on 10/27/2007 12:12:06 PM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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I agree. This kind of thing is most likely designed to be used against gun owners, not Islamic terrorists.


3 posted on 10/27/2007 12:13:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: TaxesR2High

This bill must be stopped.


4 posted on 10/27/2007 12:14:31 PM PDT by montag813
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This is going to be used against Christians and other law-abiding Americans. Especially if Rudy or Hillary is in the WH.
5 posted on 10/27/2007 12:14:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with our Judeo-Christian beliefs)
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To: TaxesR2High

Gun owners, this will be used against you.


6 posted on 10/27/2007 12:15:31 PM PDT by mysterio
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I’m glad other people are waking up to what is going on. I just hope you all continue to dig deeper.


7 posted on 10/27/2007 12:19:03 PM PDT by TaxesR2High (Vote Ron Paul in 2008)
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To: OSHA
in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Well. That s**ks big time.

8 posted on 10/27/2007 12:29:47 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TaxesR2High

Not sure,but maybe Jones ain’t that far off..


9 posted on 10/27/2007 12:32:22 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Disambiguator; All

—yep—in the eyes of , say , the Southern Poverty Law Center, a Boy Scout troop awarding a “marksmanship” merit badge is a “homegrown terrorist organization”-—


10 posted on 10/27/2007 12:32:50 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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hmmm. a parent (individual) using force (spanking) to promote social change (discipline) could be guilty... 1/2 sarc.


11 posted on 10/27/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on hillary.)
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Exactly. It’s a step closer to bringing America down.

I am really sick and tired of our Congress fighting the citizens of the US. We need to clean house throughly.


12 posted on 10/27/2007 12:39:35 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: TaxesR2High

IMHO, this is definitely not good.


13 posted on 10/27/2007 12:42:56 PM PDT by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: TaxesR2High

This would make Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington - all our original patriots - terrorists!

Those bozos in Congress have stepped-in-it this time.


14 posted on 10/27/2007 12:59:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: TaxesR2High

This looks to be primarily a pork project.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 1:04:09 PM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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This would make Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington - all our original patriots - terrorists!

This will never be used against the mooselimbs. They will scream racism and profiling. Meanwhile, reading the Declaration of Independence out loud would be a crime.

16 posted on 10/27/2007 1:17:49 PM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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House passes H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown
Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007


OK, call me paranoid.

I suspect the subtitle of this bill (passed by a Democratic majority
House) actually is:

The Conservative Talk-Radio, Legal Gunownership Advocates,
Conservative Christians and Rational Patriot Censorship,
Detention and Punishment Act


Actually, I do hope I'm wrong.

And this isn't just a stealth version of The Fairness Doctrine.

I'm a bit bummed to see Dave Reichert's name attached to it.
I sure hope he's REALLY considered the "unintended consquences"
aspect of this legislation.
17 posted on 10/27/2007 1:24:11 PM PDT by VOA
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Had it dealt specifically and exclusively with muslim terrorism then perhaps many here would support it. Now bureaucrats can define and implement this law against anyone’s speech they personally find repugnant. This law is a sword in their hands and offers no shield to those who engage in free speech which was otherwise subject to the “imminent lawless violence” test. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Stalin lives...


18 posted on 10/27/2007 1:34:32 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: montag813

The legalese sure detracts from the bill’s name.


19 posted on 10/27/2007 1:51:47 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Disambiguator
Agreed, this will be used against gun owners.

Another interesting part:"`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

Gee, only the Internet, not the MSM, drive by media, Hollywood entertainment types, PETA, ect.

20 posted on 10/27/2007 2:03:10 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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