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Samaritans Disrupt Alleged Rape in Progress
ABC News ^ | Oct. 29, 2007 | DAVID SCHOETZ

Posted on 10/30/2007 7:01:12 PM PDT by keats5

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To: keats5
The end of the story suggests that the rape victim had been strangled -- probably to force her to give in to the rapist...

Clearly, this hood might have injured those 20 year olds.

And given that the rapist might have been 400 pounds, I feel the 3 men and 2 women did what they had to to stop this rapist and subdue him...

41 posted on 10/30/2007 8:51:45 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: fishhound
I read the whole article, and I believe the police were only critical for the reason that they were afraid if other people tried this, the rapist/attacker might have a gun.

There is a fix for that situation -- pack your own piece (gun)...

That is how I viewed the criticism of the 5 young people -- three 20 year old men and two 20 year old women...

42 posted on 10/30/2007 8:54:15 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Young Werther
The woman had also been strangled, so there was more physical harm than just the rape attempt -- this was a brutual assault in more ways than one.

The rapist looks like he weighs in at about 300 pounds to 400 pounds, so I do think the use of force was excessive but probably defensive given the fact that the pervert had strangled the rape victim...

43 posted on 10/30/2007 8:56:05 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: umgud
He must have fallen on his face maybe 10-15 times ....must be a lot of undergrowth and roots where he was running. It is a good thing the Samaritans were there to ensure that he did not continue falling ....apparently one of them even hurt his hand ensuring that the guy was on firm footing.

Seriously though, I am glad they gave this dude the pounding he deserved. Now, a fish-knife to a certain bag would have been far better, but hey ...at least he is out of the streets for now.

And the guy looks like something out of the Dawn of the Dead.

44 posted on 10/30/2007 9:01:23 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: keats5
I hope the alleged suspect suffered an alleged beating.
45 posted on 10/30/2007 9:04:27 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: topher

I agree if more people carried this would be rare.

But i do believe that commending civilians for clear and direct actions in support of the rule of law (in this case against the crime of rape) is not easy for the police. And the question is why?


46 posted on 10/30/2007 9:04:58 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: keats5
The antidote to the Kitty Genovese story. Just damn. Someone needs to start a scholarship fund for those kids; as many graduate degrees as they can manage.

The bit I've bolded here got my attention: When police arrived, they found a bloodied 37-year-old Paul Landingham being detained by three men and two women, all about 20 years old.

While I'm all for chivalry, I'm also all for women not waiting to be rescued. I'll bet there are some high-heel marks on delicate parts of this MF'ers anatomy (a carload of 20-year-olds out on a Friday night, they were probably in their club clothes).

47 posted on 10/30/2007 9:08:24 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: angkor
Okada, the spokesman for the Salem police, warned against civilians simply taking justice into their own hands. “You don’t know whether a suspect is armed or what their mind frame is,” he said.

Good advice in general; it's usually safer to chase a perp off than to chase him down, especially if you're unarmed and untrained. But sometimes you have to make a judgment call in a millisecond, and these kids could hardly have done better.

You could second-guess their decision, but they had a 5-to-1 advantage, and looking at that fat f---, he was probably winded in the first ten yards. Especially if he was trying to pull his pants back up at the time.

One of the young male adults hurt his hand during the scuffle with Landingham, an injury photographed by police.

1) "Young male adults" was "young men" when I was in school (assuming that young, adult, and male has "human" implied). And, when I was in school, writers were taught to extirpate extraneous verbiage that fails to enhance the central core function of communication; or as William Strunk put it, "Vigorous writing is concise."

B) I hope his hand injures were in the form of knuckle-bruising. Something you can show you your buddies over a beer and say "you should see the other guy." Then show them the picture.

48 posted on 10/30/2007 9:27:08 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: BnBlFlag
Of course the dumbass cop warned people against “taking justice into their own hands”.

If someone has a weapon and you have none, and he demands your wallet, give it to him. Nothing in there is worth your life.

If someone grabs you and tries to drag you into a car, fight like hell, scream like hell, bite and scratch and resist to the last.

It's not as simple as "fight or don't."

They were rescuing a rape victem you dipshiitte! They were’nt taking “justice into their own hands”.

If these folks had killed the alleged rapist, that would have been "taking the law into their own hands." All they did was detain him until the police could arrive and investigate, then take the case to the courts.

When the rapist ran away, they were rescuing the victim. When they pursued the victim, not so much. And there's no one-size-fits-all for that call.

49 posted on 10/30/2007 9:37:55 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: topher
I do think the use of force was excessive

You're a liberal democrat....right?

50 posted on 10/30/2007 9:38:57 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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To: keats5

He is fugly! Looks like the kids gave him a night to remember.

he he he !


51 posted on 10/30/2007 9:44:04 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: angkor

Which means you beat the cr*p out of the guy, regardless.


52 posted on 10/30/2007 9:48:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: umgud
That reminds me of something:

Damn shame the other one lived.

53 posted on 10/30/2007 9:53:23 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: fishhound

Heroes know what they’ve done. They sleep at ease for doing what is right.


54 posted on 10/30/2007 9:54:19 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: topher

“I do think the use of force was excessive”

You’re either an attorney, or your tagline is out of sync with your comments.


55 posted on 10/30/2007 9:58:42 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: angkor

Okada, the spokesman for the Salem police, warned against civilians simply taking justice into their own hands. “You don’t know whether a suspect is armed or what their mind frame is,” he said.

-—Which is why we all need liberal conceal/carry permits-—


56 posted on 10/30/2007 11:21:34 PM PDT by driveserve
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To: antidisestablishment

Can you provide more info about that photo? It’s amazing!


57 posted on 10/31/2007 5:57:09 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: umgud

It’s no less than what he deserves.


58 posted on 10/31/2007 6:43:04 AM PDT by Niuhuru (businesslinkshere.com)
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To: keats5

Glad to see that they worked this fat loser before they turned him over.


59 posted on 10/31/2007 7:07:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: keats5
“Okada, the spokesman for the Salem police, warned against civilians simply taking justice into their own hands. “You don’t know whether a suspect is armed or what their mind frame is,” he said.

Okada is a dic*head. With statements like these coming from law enforcement officers it’s no wonder people hate cops.

60 posted on 10/31/2007 7:55:29 AM PDT by monday
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