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New technique creates cheap, abundant hydrogen: report
AFP ^ | Nov 12, 2007

Posted on 11/12/2007 10:45:42 PM PST by Rick_Michael

CHICAGO (AFP) - US researchers have developed a method of producing hydrogen gas from biodegradable organic material, potentially providing an abundant source of this clean-burning fuel, according to a study released Monday.

The technology offers a way to cheaply and efficiently generate hydrogen gas from readily available and renewable biomass such as cellulose or glucose, and could be used for powering vehicles, making fertilizer and treating drinking water.

Numerous public transportation systems are moving toward hydrogen-powered engines as an alternative to gasoline, but most hydrogen today is generated from nonrenewable fossil fuels such as natural gas.

The method used by engineers at Pennsylvania State University however combines electron-generating bacteria and a small electrical charge in a microbial fuel cell to produce hydrogen gas.

Microbial fuel cells work through the action of bacteria which can pass electrons to an anode. The electrons flow from the anode through a wire to the cathode producing an electric current. In the process, the bacteria consume organic matter in the biomass material.

An external jolt of electricity helps generate hydrogen gas at the cathode.

In the past, the process, which is known as electrohydrogenesis, has had poor efficiency rates and low hydrogen yields.

But the researchers at Pennsylvania State University were able to get around these problems by chemically modifying elements of the reactor.

In laboratory experiments, their reactor generated hydrogen gas at nearly 99 percent of the theoretical maximum yield using aetic acid, a common dead-end product of glucose fermentation.

"This process produces 288 percent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process," said Bruce Logan, a professor of environmental engineering at Penn State.

The technology is economically viable now, which gives hydrogen an edge over another alternative biofuel which is grabbing more headlines, Logan said.

"The energy focus is currently on ethanol as a fuel, but economical ethanol from cellulose is 10 years down the road," said Logan.

"First you need to break cellulose down to sugars and then bacteria can convert them to ethanol."

One of the immediate applications for this technology is to supply the hydrogen that is used in fuel cell cars to generate the electricity that drives the motor, but it could also can be used to convert wood chips into hydrogen to be used as fertilizer.

The study appears in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: energy; globalwarming; hydrogen; pennstate
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To: DB
That’s pretty expensive

We'll just do the traditional method to make it look cheaper. Government subsidy of 50 cents a pound!

21 posted on 11/13/2007 2:59:47 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: TheThinker

White vinegar is diluted (5%) acetic acid.


22 posted on 11/13/2007 3:02:19 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


23 posted on 11/13/2007 3:11:48 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

If they used cellulite instead of cellulouse, Hilliary could just hook those wires to her thighs and away she would go!


24 posted on 11/13/2007 3:27:06 AM PST by moonman
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To: DB
LOL,
3.88 watts for each watt = 388 percent.

Where do you get the extra watt?

25 posted on 11/13/2007 3:42:53 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Rick_Michael

Another one of those miracle technologies that is going to revolutionize everything. If I only had a dime for every one I’ve read about...


26 posted on 11/13/2007 3:49:03 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Rick_Michael

Cost of energy in must be less than value of energy out. Or else it’s a failure.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 3:51:29 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Brilliant
"Another one of those miracle technologies that is going to revolutionize everything. If I only had a dime for every one I’ve read about..."

Every piece of technology you use today started out as a research result just like this at one point in its path to successs. Sure, most of them don't make it, but...."you can't have one without the other".

Certainly this sounds promising, and is from legitimate researchers.

28 posted on 11/13/2007 4:15:11 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

(stolen from a previous kudzu thread...)

Q: How do you pland kudzu?

A: Throw it at the ground, and run like H$ll!


29 posted on 11/13/2007 4:24:46 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Won’t they have to get above 300 percent in order to break even with the added electricity?

"This process produces 288 percent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process," said Bruce Logan, a professor of environmental engineering at Penn State.

Am I missing something? It generates 288% more energy than it consumes to do so?

30 posted on 11/13/2007 4:42:22 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
1 watt = 0%
1.5 watts = 50%
2.0 watts = 100%
2.5 watts = 150%
3.0 watts = 200%
3.5 watts = 250%
3.88 watts = 288%
31 posted on 11/13/2007 5:15:49 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Rick_Michael; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Hydrogen ping!


32 posted on 11/13/2007 5:16:22 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: dr_lew; Robert A. Cook, PE; patton; neverdem; secret garden; xsmommy; VRWCmember; NeoCaveman; ...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7146836


33 posted on 11/13/2007 5:20:38 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Rick_Michael

Was hydrogen (the universe’s most abundant element) in short supply?


34 posted on 11/13/2007 5:23:06 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

“Was hydrogen (the universe’s most abundant element) in short supply?”

Because we live in an oxidative atomosphere.

Basically they are using a substrate that can produce cheap methane to make more expensive hydrogen. At least you can reasonably compress, pipe and store methane, hydrogen not so much.


35 posted on 11/13/2007 5:30:43 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dr_lew
“Kudzu! I keep saying, kudzu will save the world.”

- I just looked it up on Google. Good grief! This stuff grows at one foot a day, up to 100 feet in length and has a tap root 8 in. wide that goes 12 feet deep.
There was a science fiction horror story some years back called, “The Day of the Triffids” in which these huge flesh eating plants had threatened mankind with their fast growing, aggressive ways.
If the Kudzu ate protein, I’d be really worried.

36 posted on 11/13/2007 5:36:43 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I still thnk it would make excellent forage, especially after this year’s extended drought.


37 posted on 11/13/2007 6:04:03 AM PST by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: Rick_Michael

Did they mean to say acetic acid and not aetic acid?


38 posted on 11/13/2007 6:05:02 AM PST by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: dangerdoc
"At least you can reasonably compress, pipe and store methane, hydrogen not so much"

Hydrogen is "compressed, piped, and stored" at thousands of places in the USA every day.

39 posted on 11/13/2007 6:31:45 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Rick_Michael
Couldn't this create electricity resistant bacteria, dooming our planet?

40 posted on 11/13/2007 6:44:19 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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