New technique creates cheap, abundant hydrogen: report

AFP ^ | Nov 12, 2007

[Right Wing Assault]

That’s pretty expensive

We'll just do the traditional method to make it look cheaper. Government subsidy of 50 cents a pound!

[Sherman Logan]

White vinegar is diluted (5%) acetic acid.

[steelyourfaith]

~~ AGW™ ping~~

[moonman]

If they used cellulite instead of cellulouse, Hilliary could just hook those wires to her thighs and away she would go!

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

LOL,
3.88 watts for each watt = 388 percent.

Where do you get the extra watt?

[Brilliant]

Another one of those miracle technologies that is going to revolutionize everything. If I only had a dime for every one I’ve read about...

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Cost of energy in must be less than value of energy out. Or else it’s a failure.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Another one of those miracle technologies that is going to revolutionize everything. If I only had a dime for every one I’ve read about..."

Every piece of technology you use today started out as a research result just like this at one point in its path to successs. Sure, most of them don't make it, but...."you can't have one without the other".

Certainly this sounds promising, and is from legitimate researchers.

[patton]

(stolen from a previous kudzu thread...)

Q: How do you pland kudzu?

A: Throw it at the ground, and run like H$ll!

[Real Cynic No More]

Won’t they have to get above 300 percent in order to break even with the added electricity?

"This process produces 288 percent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process," said Bruce Logan, a professor of environmental engineering at Penn State.

Am I missing something? It generates 288% more energy than it consumes to do so?

[Moonman62]

1 watt = 0%
1.5 watts = 50%
2.0 watts = 100%
2.5 watts = 150%
3.0 watts = 200%
3.5 watts = 250%
3.88 watts = 288%

[Red Badger]

Hydrogen ping!

[Red Badger]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7146836

[Teacher317]

Was hydrogen (the universe’s most abundant element) in short supply?

[dangerdoc]

“Was hydrogen (the universe’s most abundant element) in short supply?”

Because we live in an oxidative atomosphere.

Basically they are using a substrate that can produce cheap methane to make more expensive hydrogen. At least you can reasonably compress, pipe and store methane, hydrogen not so much.

[finnigan2]

“Kudzu! I keep saying, kudzu will save the world.”

- I just looked it up on Google. Good grief! This stuff grows at one foot a day, up to 100 feet in length and has a tap root 8 in. wide that goes 12 feet deep.
There was a science fiction horror story some years back called, “The Day of the Triffids” in which these huge flesh eating plants had threatened mankind with their fast growing, aggressive ways.
If the Kudzu ate protein, I’d be really worried.

[secret garden]

I still thnk it would make excellent forage, especially after this year’s extended drought.

[secret garden]

Did they mean to say acetic acid and not aetic acid?

[Wonder Warthog]

"At least you can reasonably compress, pipe and store methane, hydrogen not so much"

Hydrogen is "compressed, piped, and stored" at thousands of places in the USA every day.

[William Terrell]

Couldn't this create electricity resistant bacteria, dooming our planet?