Posted on 11/15/2007 11:33:37 AM PST by Freeport
Edited on 11/17/2007 1:47:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
When close just isn’t good enough?
I wouldn't have imagined the government would have allowed that!?!?! Is the owner a retired Admiral, or something?
“This guy owns his own Harrier?”
I got a customer in upstate NY who flies his own Mig out of his own private airfield.
At least he didn’t have to punch out.
don’t recall the details ... I seem to recall that due to “Area 51” references, the military wanted nothing to do with the movie “Independence Day” ... but they were able to find one F18 in private hands. And that, supposedly, was why Will Smith played a Marine pilot rather than an Air Force pilot.
I’d hate to see his insurance premiums on that bird.
..yeah but the indicator told him to right after he stopped engines.....*snicker*
Private jets are not allowed to have ejection seats. Apparently, the rockets and such in them makes them illegal to possess, so you ride it in. That much I know.
As far as owning one goes, you can, but you have to find one that you can buy. It is the policy of the US that military aircraft are never sold to private individuals, unless it is for static display, and then it is “De-Miled”, where they cut through the main spar on both wings, and remove other goodies needed for flight.
Also, every nation that buys US military aircraft sign a pledge not to sell them, or any part of them to any individuals.
I saw a MiG-17 at Rockford Regional Airport (Illinois) that looked like it was undergoing restoration. It was in Polish AF livery.
I remember 25 years ago reading about a T-38 Tallon that ended up in private hands due to a paperwork snafu with the salvage. IIRC it was a USAF trainer that made a belly landing short of a USN air station. The Navy couldn’t get the AF to take away the craft on the Navy’s timetable, so a buyer jumped in and hauled it off & restored it.
I’ve also seen F86 & and F104 in private hands. But as far as ex-US military craft — that’s about it.
Are there legal obstacles? FAA regulations that get in the way? Or is it just a matter of cost?
BATF has something or other to say about any weapons ...
I'm no expert on this.
You answered most of my questions before I hit the 'Go' button. Thanks.
Yeah, Quarterpanel said something about ejection seats being prohibited. I can see the BATF having an interest in the solid rocket motors.
Whose that on my lawnmower!
I’ve seen a private - modern fighter jet in the sky a couple of times. A neighbor said that Paul Allen (Seattle - Microsoft) has a fighter jet of some type (F-15, 16, ???) that he actually flies. I couldn’t find it on the net though, so who knows?
However - he DOES own at least one jet fighter - the German Me-262! Here’s an article I found from 2004:
One of the newest aviation attractions in Snohomish County, Washington is billionaire Paul Allen’s Flying Heritage Collection of 30 rare combat aircraft — including the Jenny, P-51, British Spitfire, B-17 and German and Russian fighters — on display at the Arlington Airport.
Housed in a modest, green, metal hangar, the displays feature the first 10 aircraft to be completed. Another 20 planes are in various stages of restoration or tagged for future rebuilding.
Each of the planes is an original actually flown in combat, except for the bi-winged Curtis Jenny, a rare aircraft used to train combat pilots in World War I. Allen’s staff has compiled detailed histories of each plane.
Allen has announced limited public visits, at $20 for each visitor, in groups limited to 15 people each, two days each week, a schedule that is expected to be expanded depending on public interest. Reservations for the tours must be made in advance.
The uniqueness of the collection lies not simply in its dollar value as a private investment or in the rarity of the planes, but also in Allen’s commitment to restoring each plane to flying condition. Eventually, all 30 aircraft on display will be flown four times each year to keep their engines and other moving parts in prime shape.
Allen bought at least one plane, the German Me-262, the world’s first jet fighter plane, from a museum, the Planes of Fame collection. The others were found in various parts of the world, some buried in the dirt of long-forgotten battlefields, others resting and rusting at old airfields.
Among the famous planes in Allen’s collection are:
North America P-51D “Mustang” — Built in 1945, and flown over the Arlington airfield as part of the celebration of the Flying Heritage Collection’s unveiling in April.
British Supermarine Mk.Vc “Spitfire” — In the Battle of Britain, the “Spitfire“ provided air defenses during Germany’s bombing of London, leading to Hitler’s first air combat defeat of the war.
Curtiss P-40C “Warhawk” — The P-40 was immortalized by its outstanding service in China with pilots of the American Volunteer Group, known to the world as The Flying Tigers.
Grumman F6F-5 “Hellcat” — The backbone of the American aircraft carrier groups during World War II, the “Hellcat” was the best general purpose fighter plane in the Pacific Theater.
Nakajima Ki-43-1c “Hayabusa” — Early in World War II, this aircraft was the Japanese Army Air Force’s primary fighter. It’s the only known complete, privately owned, original “Hayabusa” in the world in flying condition.
Mitsubishi A6M5 “Zero-Sen” — The “Zero-Sen” was Japan’s light carrier-fighter that ruled the skies over Asia and the South Pacific from 1940 to early 1942.
Isn’t Paul Allen attempting to collect ‘famous examples’ of each aircraft type? ie. a fighter with documented air-to-air kills. Maybe I’m confusing his collection with another (but who else would be in Paul Allen’s tax bracket, right?)
Pinging...
From the article:
“Each of the planes is an original actually flown in combat..... Allen’s staff has compiled detailed histories of each plane.”
That’s as much as I know so you’re probably right. I might have to head up there with my son some day to see it.
Is that what they call a “Yardhog”?
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