Posted on 11/16/2007 8:41:02 AM PST by Sue Bob
Barry M. Goldwater, Jr. endorsed Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul for president.
“America is at a crossroads,” said Mr. Goldwater. “We have begun to stray from our traditions and must get back to what has made us the greatest nation on earth or we will lose much of the freedom we hold dear. Ron Paul stands above all of the other candidates in his commitment to liberty and to America.”
“Leading America is difficult, and I know Ron Paul is the man for the job,” he added.
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LOL - Bob the Builder?
Ron Paul is my candidate, but I would love to see the threads debunking the abortion accusations. I thought I heard Fred say that he supported leaving the decision to the States—which is Ron Paul’s position too. Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Human Life bill on several occasions which would have stripped jurisdiction of the abortion issue from the federal courts. That, unlike a constitutional amendment, would require only a majority vote in Congress.
Is that Fred Thompson’s approach as well?
I’m pretty sure I was right on with my assertions. It is easy to tell when an opponent has conceded, as that it when the name calling begins.
That is a typical liberal trait. They run out of arguments, and then begin the name calling.
I was indeed clever enough to use the right words to get you to stop debating, and begin the name calling. And I would imagine this post is just as clever, and will prompt a similar response.
Is possibly because their anti-American braying is practically identical?
I almost never hear the libertarians I know discussing taxes or property rights. They mostly whine about the war and various conspiracy theories about the war and about marijuana laws.
In other words, pretty much what I hear from the liberals I know, only with a heavier emphasis on the pot.
It seems to me that if libertarians want to be distinguished as different gfrom liberals, they'll need to differentiate their rhetoric a little more.
This is getting very complicated. I am called a liberal for supporting the Iraq war, and also being called a liberal because I as a civilian do not own or use a gun, but think it’s okay for other civilians to own firearms for hunting.
It’s fine to argue the extent of the rights protected by the 2nd amendment, but agreeing with Senator Goldwater’s position on that does not make me a liberal, imo.
War on Terror, i.e., national security is the acknowledged Number One issue in the next election. RuPaul fails completely and miserably on that issue.
Please cite the section of the Constitution which authorizes a Federal "War on Drugs". I'd estimate that about 85-90% of Freepers oppose it, so that should tell you something.
He's wrong on foreign policy.
Agreed.
He's wrong on Roe v. Wade.
He thinks that Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision. You don't?
He's wrong on the border.
Other than Tancredo and possibly Hunter, Paul is the strongest anti-illegal immigration candidate out there. I suppose you're more of a "comprehensive immigration reform" type.
He's wrong on education.
You think that letting dumbass beurocrats in Washington decide on how children should be educated is better than leaving it to the localities and states?
He's wrong on the Second Amendment.
Do you realize how out of the mainstream your views are here on FR?!? You like gun control and claim that you aren't a Rudy fan. That's priceless.
He's wrong on housing.
You're for the government subsidizing someone's home?
He's wrong on the border.
Ever get deja vu?
Thank you for so eloquently proving my point about where so many of the Paul haters are coming from.
Fair enough. But the person he was posting to is a flaming lib. See my above post.
See his posts to me. He's clueless on the war and flaps his moonbat wings trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about. He made a complete ass of himself.
He earned the smackdown I gave him.
Taking them to school!!
The “nuke ‘em all” crowd give me a headache.
I guess, according to Rigid Principles’s strategy, that would also destroy the Christian parish featured in the latest Michael Yon dispatch.
Hope I did okay on the apostrophes, teach!!
:)
If you’re referring to me as a “flaming lib,” then you need to ping me. Otherwise, not. Thanks.
Has anyone noticed that Giuliani is the ONLY candidate who doesn’t attack other Republicans?
I’m not a “fan,” by the way, but I point out things that I notice about candidates, fair and square.
I'm on your side of the argument when it comes to debating the tactics used in fighting the war, but he makes a damned good point about people who consider supporting the war an automatic qualifier of one being conservative. I've read enough of your posts to realize that your conservative bona fides are fine, but you must admit that there is a substantial portion of liberal Republicans who oppose Paul on the things he is conservative on. A lot of them are coming out in this very thread.
Great post!!
A true Libertarian has a rigid set of principles which are derived from our Constitution. Each and every issue must then be aligned with that rigid set of principles.
It’s easy to do that if your principles are derived from the Constitution. All of our individual, inherent rights are derived from our individual, inherent right to own property, most fundamentally, our own bodies.
*All* of my opinions are derived from this individual, inherent right to own property.
It’s difficult to get into the genesis of my views, when in 2007, we truly don’t have an acknowledged individual, inherent right to own property. It’s hard to argue that we don’t actually rent our property from the state, including our own bodies.
The Republicans don’t seem to understand conservatism anymore. They compromise with the Democrats left and right.
The Libertarian understands that freedom isn’t just freedom for things you agree with. The Republicans LOVE lots and lots of taxes to impose their moral authority over the rest. It doesn’t get any more liberal than that.
Getting rid of the 16th amendment solves most of these issues at the root. And it brings us back to personal responsibility.
But none of those issues matter anymore, so why would I bring up property rights ? Not them, nor the Constitution matter, and it has devolved into a me vs. them thing, not based on any sort of rigid principles, but only on a mindset that freedom is only freedom for things you agree with. “And to the Democracy, for which it stands”, doesn’t really have the same ring to it.
At FreeRepublic, what I see now is the equation I posted earlier. The genesis of being a conservative, is first and foremost supporting the war in Iraq, and then everything else is secondary. There’s no integrity in that. It’s the same way the Democrats work, but the top of their hierarchy is a tad more socialist.
I was mixing you up with someone else. You're just a gun-grabber. I don't know what your positions on other conservative issues are. ;-)
Has anyone noticed that Giuliani is the ONLY candidate who doesn’t attack other Republicans?
Because he's such a joke of a Republican that he'd get his butt handed to him if he did.
Anybody who tars all with the same brush is not very bright. He has demonstrated that and has joined the list of a few who has not one iota of respect from me. In fact, he has earned my complete disdain.
I vehemently oppose Ron Paul on his foreign policy and that is enough to make me steer clear of him.
I’m not really searching for your respect, sorry to disappoint you. You are the poster child of the folks who believe a conservative is one who supports the war in Iraq. That lack of integrity shows that you are not very bright, as you have no sound epistemology, and the way you feel tomorrow could very well be different than today. That’s the way liberals are. Whatever sounds good at the time.
Try having a rigid set of principles, and not being a hypocrite.
He clearly has no clue as to what is currently going on in Iraq. Either that, or like most Democrats, he is in a state of denial.
Perhaps he just took the last bit CNN spoonfed him several months ago and uses that as a foundation for his lunatic ravings.
As I told him, it's a good thing he's flipping burgers or changing oil and not in charge of anything like war strategy.
I didn't get the impression that he was doing that. If he called you a liberal, I totally disagree. But you must admit that someone who disagrees with Ron Paul on the 2nd Amendment, Roe V. Wade, education, border control and subsidization of housing ain't no damn conservative, regardless of their support for the war. And yes, such animals do exist, even here on FR.
You’re on thin ice.
Bro, you make some really good points, and then you make some really dumb points. Allegra does not fit that description. She's a solid Duncan Hunter supporter.
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