Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa
Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!
Well, don’t get into any kind of pity-party now... We wouldn’t want that.
And talking about behavior, you know those Pharisees never did like Jesus’ behavior, they thought He was such a boor, calling them names and the gall of Him, turning over their tables in the Temple. I mean, talk about manners... someone ought to tell Jesus He should have been more Christlike... LOL...
Well he didn't win. The Huckster won.
Getting back to the subject at hand, the caucus.
Fred is a long way from down and out. He wanted second and needed third. Well, he didn’t get what he wanted, but he did get what he needed.
Consider the long term issues that will arise. If Fred keeps McCain down long enough, he will drop out. Also, all the remaining lower tier candidates will drop out over the course of the next several months. As long as Fred stays in one of the top several spots he stands a good chance of picking up a lot of the supporters of the other candidates. This will be especially effective in states with ordinary primary votes.
There are going to be a lot of shakeups and changes as we go, and it’s crazy to act like the sky is falling after the first state. Fred has very little baggage to weigh himself down and with both Huck and Mitt having big problems telling the truth lately Fred may have to do nothing more than give them enough rope to hang themselves. It seems like the more Huck and Mitt talk, the more damage they do to their own campaigns.
The strong donations that will come from being in the top three won’t hurt either.
Iowa has just been extremely foolish but the usual sign off still applies... GO FRED!
Sorry to disappoint you. I’m not Fred. Just a sister in Christ.
You said — “Then why, oh, why are people touting that Huckabee is truly a Christian? Look at his record, look at the FRUITS of his labors... Don’t just listen to the WORDS he uses — the man is slick no doubt about it, but there is more to being a Christian than knowing all the right words to say.”
Ummm..., anyone ever go over the Gospel with you? I guess not or you would know better than to say some of this stuff, mixing up a “political record” with matters of “salvation”. That’s quite a bit boo-boo there...
And, for another thing, you probably don’t know this — but the Southern Baptist church members are not really in the practice of choosing ministers for their congregations who are not Christian... LOL...
That may have escaped your attention.... :-)
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You said — “How in the WORLD would ANYONE know that besides the L-rd and Thompson himself?”
Ummm..., you better check your keyboard, I think your “-” is sticking. It keeps getting in the way of Lord, for some reason..
And as far as how anyone would know — well, I would ask how come Thompson doesn’t even know (about being a Christian). Now, that’s the real question here... You would think that a Christian knows about being a Christian and the good news — except when they can’t tell you what it’s about... LOL (another example of someone trying to put a “fast one” over on us...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said — “Fred is a long way from down and out. He wanted second and needed third. Well, he didn’t get what he wanted, but he did get what he needed.”
For a minute there, I had a flashback to the Gulf War, listening to Saddam Hussein tell us how he won the war... LOL...
Regards,
Star Traveler
No where did I say that Salvation was tied to WORKS... Now you are accusing me of not being a Christian, of not hearing the Gospel, attacking me personally because of how I choose to write the name of G-d. Consider this conversation over, because I sure do now. If I wanted to debate on theology I wouldn’t be here at FR tonight.
You said — “Now you are accusing me of not being a Christian, ...”
I guess that means the answer to — “Ummm..., anyone ever go over the Gospel with you?” — is — “Yes”...
Except for the fact that I didn’t see the “yes” part... Did I miss it?
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Ummm..., a “sticky key” is attacking you? LOL...
You didn’t happen to forget some meds today did you... just wondering...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Susan Estrich said tonight that John McCain was the Dems worst nightmare because he would draw the independents and pro-life Democrats. Just the opposite of what Romney's people are saying. Seems weird to me that someone who might vote for McCain would vote for Obama instead (or vice versa). The two seem polar opposites to me, even as liberal as McCain is. Seems like no matter where McCain ended up they would say he'll win NH. I've been following this all pretty closely and I've never heard anyone say they thought Romney could win NH. In fact, I've heard that they don't like him there, same as AR doesn't like Huckabee or Clinton. I think both opinions are probably as spun as cotton candy! LOL!
I guess I didn't get so involved in WOD threads. I'd probably catch my share of flames if I did. I'm in the middle on most issues on drugs. Makes for an easy target from both sides...I just believe moderation is necessary from both sides in order to avoid trampling certain liberties and yet avoid chaos.
And as for the GOP being divided, I don’t think it’s all that bad.
I think it's necessary to have a reconcillition with the basic philosophies that define us as either conservatives or republicans, the former being more important. The screeching involved must resemble similar forums held in Congress by the likes of Adams, Jefferson and Franklin. Adams in particular as I've read about it...LOL!
The message of the press is that they are divided, discouraged, and so forth, but I think that’s just to help their masters in the DNC.
Uhng...if there's a consistent villain in this story...need I say more?
TGIF! Cheers and have a great weekend!
A "true Christian in the White House" could not bring about the downfall of our country. By definition, a true Christian would be following both the Constitution and the Will of God, which are not remotely contradictory. If you believe Scripture, God sets our leaders in place and allows them to govern. If downfall occurs it will be because we, the Christians of this nation, deserve it. Not because of the action or inaction of one person.
Furthermore, Huckabee is a Southern Baptist. Most people, even non believers, would not classify Southern Baptists are "bleeding heart religious freak(s)". In fact, I think those terms are contradictory. Most bleeding hearts, or liberals, are atheist, Catholic/Orthodox or Jewish. Most Jesus freaks, like myself, are evangelical and pentecostal and tend to be very conservative. In fact, I and nearly everyone in my church would be very insulted to be called a bleeding heart. You seem very angry to me. If you hadn't said you were a Christian I wouldn't have guessed.
A "true Christian in the White House" could not bring about the downfall of our country. By definition, a true Christian would be following both the Constitution and the Will of God, which are not remotely contradictory.
No, a true Christian in the White House could not bring the downfall of our Republic. But putting the wrong man in the White House just because he is a self titled Christian would. Putting a persons religion before all else can and would be the downfall of our country, our republic. And when you have one who puts his religion ABOVE the Constitution, it is a recipe for disaster!
If you believe Scripture, God sets our leaders in place and allows them to govern. If downfall occurs it will be because we, the Christians of this nation, deserve it. Not because of the action or inaction of one person.
I have read this sentence THREE TIMES and STILL cannot get my head around what you are saying here. If you are saying that God personally tells us who to vote for, then I will confess that my walk is not where it should be and I rely on a persons record above their word. If you are saying that we are blind to what is going on around us and that God miraculously put leaders in place, yet it is our fault if a downfall occurs, I am at a loss here except to say that I can see how we got to this horrible place, thru that way of thinking.
Furthermore, Huckabee is a Southern Baptist.
Half the Southern Baptists I know live under law, the other half live under Grace. His denomination means nothing to me... his record does.
Most people, even non believers, would not classify Southern Baptists are "bleeding heart religious freak(s)". In fact, I think those terms are contradictory. Most bleeding hearts, or liberals, are atheist, Catholic/Orthodox or Jewish. Most Jesus freaks, like myself, are evangelical and pentecostal and tend to be very conservative. In fact, I and nearly everyone in my church would be very insulted to be called a bleeding heart. You seem very angry to me. If you hadn't said you were a Christian I wouldn't have guessed.
It is not my intention to insult anyone. Honestly, I mean that. Today's meaning of 'bleeding heart' has been given to liberals and atheists. That is not the only meaning for that phrase. Google it... it has a wide scope.
As far as my being angry... you betcha, I am. I am angry that people let their RELIGION get before the true meaning of what God wants for us, what He wants from us and what it takes to achieve the two.
I have read here that being a Christian is the first test to determine fitness for the POTUS. Quite frankly, that scares the shit out of me. Especially when I look at the candidates and see that a self titled Christian will destroy our country and possibly the world, while a man who does not meet the litmus test of faith will hold steadfast to what is true and right.
You would not have guessed I was a Christian because I may not babble scripture at every opportunity and do not have a Kumbaya attitude in all that I say and do. I know what God wants for me and what He wants from me.
It pissed me off and scares the shit out of me that anyone would put a FAKE in office because he claims to be a Christian ... above other good men who are not wearing their hearts or faith on their sleeve.
I don't know what you are referring to. I guess you are calling me a liar (in a round about way).
Here is what I see - you don't come across as the ambassador for Christ that you claim to be.
Now - neither do I in all occasions here. For that, I am sorry.
If your whole motivation here is cheering on Huckabee - that's fine. I am not sure what is really behind your posts.
I'll restate my position: I don't like Huckabee, and I want him to lose. The MSM is telling the country that "evangelicals are solidly behind Huckabee" and that is a damnable lie. I don't know what the good folks in Iowa are smoking, but I pray the addiction that masks reason is not contagious.
You notice I said that without any of your "You're funny! .....You’re a “laugh a minute”......."LOL!"......"LOL!"......."LOL!" sarcasm and ridicule you posted ad nauseum last night.
Perhaps you were just overly giddy by Huckabee's win.
No hard feelings and take care. Proverbs 3:5-6
Not at all. Never mind that third is hardly last, at the time they were talking, Thompson was still a point or two above McCain, and they were talking like a fourth place finish was somehow awesome for McCain. Thompson did much better than they were predicting and they couldn’t bring themselves to acknowledge it.
Fox is still much better than the alternatives but they are really like the rest in that they don’t just report the facts, it’s all about punditry. It was also shameful how they promoted the rumor about him dropping out.
“GIVE ME A CONSERVATIVE OR GIVE AMERICA A dim President. Will you “moderates” listen. My prediction is no... your kind never has.
LLS
You are arguing with a demon.
LLS
Furthermore, Huckabee is a Southern Baptist. Most people, even non believers, would not classify Southern Baptists are "bleeding heart religious freak(s)". In fact, I think those terms are contradictory. Most bleeding hearts, or liberals, are atheist, Catholic/Orthodox or Jewish. Most Jesus freaks, like myself, are evangelical and pentecostal and tend to be very conservative.
In fact, I and nearly everyone in my church would be very insulted to be called a bleeding heart. You seem very angry to me. If you hadn't said you were a Christian I wouldn't have guessed.
Well, that's the basis for your failure in faith. Evangelicals follow a man, Saul of Tarsus, the Sauline, ooops, Pauline Doctrine when it was Jesus, you know, the Divine One, who said He would build His church upon Peter.
You may correct yourself by converting to the True Church.
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