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Iowa Caucuses - Results Live Thread
January 3, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa

Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; caucus; caucuses; dodd; edwards; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gravel; hillary; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; keyes; kucinich; livethread; mccain; mikehuckabee; obama; paul; richardson; romney; thompson
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What time will we start to see actual results???


341 posted on 01/03/2008 3:02:23 PM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: JFC

Edwards will not speak to Fox News because he hates big media. What a skank. He will go to bigger media in NBC, CBS, ABC. He does not like corporations... trial lawyer”

I was proud of Chris Wallace for taking Edwards’ guy to task on this. He hit him pretty hard.


342 posted on 01/03/2008 3:02:27 PM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Colofornian

“Conclusion: Basically, it seems that it’s not Huck’s bad side on the issues that motivated many folks as much as that he threatened their fave candidate’s voter turf. Now that’s not true of some FReeper’s, who have been issuing Huck warnings all throughout ‘07. (So I’m not talking about those folks). I’m only talking about those that if you review their comments for the past two months, you’ll see they went from 0 to 150 MPH just like a snap of their fingers.”

Very well said.


343 posted on 01/03/2008 3:02:27 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Milhous

Lordie, if Romney only pulls 19%, he’s down on the canvas with an 8 count...


344 posted on 01/03/2008 3:03:00 PM PST by magritte
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To: visualops
I heard because of the way Dems have things set up, the primaries aren’t nearly as important as people make them out to be. Something about “super delegates”

And in many states the delegates are *not* required to cast for the winner of the primary in their state....

That being the case I wonder how often that actually happens?
345 posted on 01/03/2008 3:03:23 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: A CA Guy
The President can talk about the issue, but he couldn’t do anything beyond appointing the right justices to slide the social engineering back the other way.

I guess you really didn't read all of my post #306, did ya? (Otherwise, you'd see that Reagan & Bush both were able to do something about it...called the Mexico City policy).

News flash, we are NOT a theocracy.

What? So Reagan & Bush were theocrats in your book because they did something more than talk pro-life? (Give me a break)

I do not believe in abortion either, but it is through one on one talks with people, not laws and harsh protesting where hearts and minds will change.

Oh sure, Martin Luther King & other protestors in the South were "harsh," eh? They didn't enact social change for the better, eh? (Guess you better not acknowledge his day in Feb, then, to be consistent)...Besides, laws do teach just like talking.

All that does is make people did in harder for abortion.

Hey, if they're already pro-death, we have nothing to lose, do we? In fact, we have everything to gain...like a baby's life...one at a time.

346 posted on 01/03/2008 3:03:26 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: dan1123

Thompson was busy with fiscal and security issues. I’m sure he’s distraught that he didn’t concentrate on YOUR pet issue.


347 posted on 01/03/2008 3:04:02 PM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: xjcsa
The first results are in........at least from my son's middle school here in Central Iowa. I am a big believer that kids results are very close to what their parents are going to do. They could choose a D and a R. Here are the numbers that he could remember

Obama 130, Hillary 30, Dodd 10 (he couldn't remember Edwards, and my son went with Dodd)

For the Rs Huck had 105, Romney 25, Paul 20, Thompson 13, Hunter 8 (and he couldn't remember the rest, and he voted for Paul)

Our school is in the most R area of a D leaning county. You could consider it rural/suburban. So take that for what it is worth. I am kinda surprised with the Huck number. I wouldn't call our area social right wing. My precinct went 40% to Steve Forbes in 2000, Bush with 25%, and the rest the rest. Can't say I like the R results from this school.

348 posted on 01/03/2008 3:04:14 PM PST by Pappy Smear
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To: bw17
As governor, Huckabee raised taxes, and supported a program to provide scholarships to illegal immigrants. He also helped establish a Mexican consulate in Little Rock,to make Arkansas more appealing to low-wage Mexican immigrants.

And McCain tried to push through amnesty, Romney had sanctuary cities dotting his state, and Thompson voted in favor of chain migration. Yet people here somehow believe Thompson and Romney really changed while Huckabee's very good illegal immigration plan is poo-pooed as being a lie.
349 posted on 01/03/2008 3:04:44 PM PST by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: dan1123

Romney is strongly against illegal immigration, which is why he has received endorsements from both Tom Tancredo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Which anti-illegal immigration person has endorsed Huckabee?


350 posted on 01/03/2008 3:04:44 PM PST by bw17
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To: RobFromGa

Iowa caucus-goers prepared to strike the opening bell of the 2008 presidential election cycle Thursday, as months of predictions, strategy and frenzied expectations were soon to be answered by real people making real choices.

In 1,781 precincts across the frigid face of Iowa, Republicans and Democrats start meeting in early evening — most caucuses start at 7 p.m. (8 p.m. Eastern) — to begin winnowing tightly bunched fields in both parties and start setting the contours of what is likely to be an unparalleled nomination sprint.

The candidates were up late — New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee showed up on late-night television — and rose early for one last day of stump speeches and rallies designed to bolster the faithful and woo the undecided.

“I feel good, but it depends on who comes out, who decides to actually put on their coats, warm up their cars and go to the caucuses,” Clinton said in a taped appearance on CBS’s “The Early Show.”

About 120,000 to 150,000 people were expected to come to the Democratic caucuses and 80,000 to 90,000 to the GOP meetings.


351 posted on 01/03/2008 3:05:30 PM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: NormsRevenge
Left: Giddy giggling because they’re not encumbered by the bourgeois practice of tipping.

Right: Sadistic glee as they tauntingly assure the waitress that they’ll leave twice their standard tip for her.

352 posted on 01/03/2008 3:05:35 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Milhous

That’s my man!!! GO DUNCAN HUNTER!


353 posted on 01/03/2008 3:06:40 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: dan1123

Romney didn’t condone “sanctuary cities”. In fact, he authorized the State Police to arrest illegals.


354 posted on 01/03/2008 3:06:40 PM PST by bw17
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To: xjcsa

That was a good idea to start this thread.

I found the popcorn, thanks, but as look around the room, I don’t see where you set out the cold beer and a big pile of crying towels.

I think I will just put on some country music, bring my dog over here, take off my boots, kick back and watch the fireworks.

I do have one suggestion though....lock all of the windows, as we don’t want anyone jumping out. ;>)


355 posted on 01/03/2008 3:06:56 PM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Hunter, Romney.)
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To: bw17

>> Which anti-illegal immigration person has endorsed Huckabee?

Minutemen founder Jim Gilchrist.

Who should they have endorsed? Hunter.


356 posted on 01/03/2008 3:07:05 PM PST by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: Beatthedrum
Maybe to even the score, republicans can go around and slash all the tires on the vehicles, lined up to chauffeur the Clinton kool-aid drinkers around.

What on earth are you talking about? Why would Republicans slash tires? Your post sounds like what some Dhimmi thinks Republicans would say--really lame.

357 posted on 01/03/2008 3:07:52 PM PST by Judith Anne (I refuse to have a tagline anymore. Nope. Not gonna do it. Won't go there.)
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To: Pappy Smear
I am a big believer that kids results are very close to what their parents are going to do.

Actually, by middle school, most kids if they KNOW what their parents are going to do, will choose something else.

But mostly kids choose the rock stars they hear about. Thus Huckabee and Obama.

358 posted on 01/03/2008 3:08:04 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RockinRight

“Eat crow about what? There’s nothing conservative about Huckabee (save for two issues - guns and abortion) and Rush is absolutely correct about him.”

IF Huckabee wins decisively and continues to roll into S.Carolina, etc. then Rush is going to looks stupid and out of touch with a large segment of his audience. If he doesn’t backtrack, it will hurt him in ratings. People will stop listening.

It isn’t a matter of “right or wrong”, it is a matter of denigrating a person that is well liked. He should have just stuck with endorsing Fred, not dissing Mike.


359 posted on 01/03/2008 3:08:23 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Thompson looks sleepy.

LOL...and it's all about looks isn't it?...In that case Slick Romney wins...



Resistance is futile. Your life as you have known it as a RINO...is over. From now on you will vote with us. Fred of Borg, and irresistible force...;)
360 posted on 01/03/2008 3:09:31 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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