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A Hard Loss for Romney (He's all but doomed now)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ ^ | Jan 4,2008 | By John Ellis

Posted on 01/03/2008 11:39:37 PM PST by Maelstorm

A Hard Loss for Romney By John Ellis

It's one thing to lose as you are. What you lose is an election, but there's always another election and in the case of presidential primary politics, a new electorate that awaits you in the next state. It's another thing to lose as you aren't. Mitt Romney was never the 700 Club right-winger his campaign managers conceived. He was and is a man of business and a very capable one at that.

He's all but doomed now. Senator John McCain will beat him in New Hampshire, probably by a lot, and Romney's media coverage will evaporate and his candidacy will consequently die. On January 9, his managers will walk in and say that the campaign needs $10 million or $15 million to continue and that he, Romney, will have to write the check. Everyone who would contribute has maxed out. Everyone who might won't. Two-time losers don't get new money. It's a basic rule of politics.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ia2008; mitt; mittromney; romney
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To: broncobilly; Star Traveler

I’m a Christian and I CAN define a cult, and, I don’t need Martin’s help or a FReepers Definition for that matter.

Star Traveler is a threat to you???


121 posted on 01/04/2008 2:39:35 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: the808bass

You said — “If an organization is a sociological cult, then it is as dangerous as a theological cult.”

Well, the perspective is strictly the Christian perspective, not sociology. So, the sociological aspect is irrelevant, in the study of theology and Christian doctrine.

The sociological aspect would be relevant if one were talking about it from a general or societal viewpoint. But, once again, that’s not the viewpoint when talking about a “cult group” from the standpoint of Christian teaching, doctrine and theology.

Regards,
Star Traveler


122 posted on 01/04/2008 2:45:18 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Well written, Star Traveler. It’s up to Jesus to decide, but my alarm bells go off whenever I hear of a group that adds to the Bible or alters the clear meaning thereof.


123 posted on 01/04/2008 2:48:54 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Star Traveler
First: Catch the difference. Trying to talk some sense into you is not playing the martyr. Don’t try that old cliche on me. You can’t hide behind a condescending attitude.

Second: Mormons have never said they taught the same thing as other churches. They have a difference of opinion. Mormons don’t claim to be ORTHODOX Christians. They only claim to be Christian. Orthodox Christians aren’t the only Christians in the world. The definition of an orthodox Christian didn’t make any sense until after about AD 325. Who were the Christians before then, and what did they believe? They didn’t believe like you believe. I think I am wasting my time on you, so I will call it a day.

124 posted on 01/04/2008 2:49:34 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

You said — “We have one gigantic problem in the Republican party. Some Evangelicals have gotten too big for their britches, and they are jeopardizing the future of the party with their bigotry.”

No, the big problem that has been brewing for a while, is that the votes that are generated by the Evangelical wing of the Party is not coming back with *results* that have been asked for by those same Evangelicals. That’s getting enough talk in Evangelical circles that many want to break away and start another party, *even* if it would not be politically very strong for a long while.

If this happens, it will be because many leave on the matter of principle and the GOP not following through with what the votes should have gotten. Then the GOP is dead in the water — for sure.

The Evangelicals will simply take a “long view” of the situation and do whatever is necessary out of a Biblical and principled stand.

Regards,
Star Traveler


125 posted on 01/04/2008 2:49:59 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Halgr

Don’t make me laugh.
I eat people like him for breakfast.


126 posted on 01/04/2008 2:53:34 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly; Halgr; Star Traveler
“I am right and I won’t change,” he said as he sunk into the quick sand.

Sounds to me like he is standing on the SOLID ROCK.

My hope is built on nothing less,
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name.

On Christ,the solid Rock I stand,
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.

127 posted on 01/04/2008 2:54:27 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: Candor7
A lot of Hucks voters were actually democrats who had changed their registrations to Republican, according to anecdotal evidence. But the dems only show their voters by percentages in Iowa, we do not get the numbers. The dems pushed Huckster, so that the nations swing voters will assume that the religious right is trying to take over the country.

Hmmmm... Verrrry interesting.

128 posted on 01/04/2008 2:55:57 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Star Traveler

And don’t forget that the term “bigot” is brought out and thrown around for good measure


129 posted on 01/04/2008 2:57:14 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Halgr; broncobilly

You said — “Star Traveler is a threat to you???”

Well, of course, you and others know I’m not a threat. It’s only the faith and teachings of Christianity — which is a threat. I can disappear tomorrow and this Christian faith and its teachings will still be around. That’s because God oversees His Word and sees that everything is done as He says it will be.

It’s Christianity that is the threat...


130 posted on 01/04/2008 2:58:30 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Star Traveler: “No, the big problem that has been brewing for a while, is that the votes that are generated by the Evangelical wing of the Party is not coming back with *results* that have been asked for by those same Evangelicals.”

Actually conservatives of all stripes aren’t getting the results our candidates promised running. Small government types are getting no more traction with Republicans than evangelicals, and the alternative (DEMS) are even worse.


131 posted on 01/04/2008 2:58:48 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: restornu
Mitt Romney will be the next President after the Roller Coaster RACE is over!

You pic accompanying the post gives a better picture of Mitt's flip flopping, than a pair of sandals.

132 posted on 01/04/2008 2:58:55 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: restornu
I don’t like Romney... For President, But I like Mormons (they make good neighbors). I always take TWO Mormons with me when I go fishing. If you only take one, he’ll drink all your beer, but if you bring two, they watch each other.
133 posted on 01/04/2008 3:45:36 AM PST by Blue Collar Republican (3 fingers of Jim Beam in a dirty glass)
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To: Star Traveler
You know, the Mormon church can keep trying to play the martyr,

Excuse me

This is The Church of Jesus Christ there is nothing martyr about it!

Preparing the way for the return of the Lord, his work and Kingdom continue until the whole earth is covered.

It is the Lord Jesus Christ leading the way.

134 posted on 01/04/2008 3:52:27 AM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Blue Collar Republican

a little humor!:)


135 posted on 01/04/2008 3:53:26 AM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Maelstorm
Romney had a very strong organization here in Iowa; as good as any candidate could have.
And he still lost by quite a bit. He and his family spent large amounts of time campaigning and spent large amounts of money at the Straw Poll to turn people out.
His loss is very significant.

But the good people of New Hampshire will have their say.
Now we can sleep.

136 posted on 01/04/2008 3:57:08 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Star Traveler
It’s the non-Christian cult groups that have done the most hindering in the work of God.

Listen to your foolisness giving credit to forces that are contrary to God....

The only lying going on is your denial to take upon yourself the Name of Jesus Christ and to do his will!

You spend more time on the corner speaking fear and doubt and it seems no time building up the Lord's Kingdom....

137 posted on 01/04/2008 4:02:10 AM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: 1000 silverlings
**And don’t forget that the term “bigot” is brought out and thrown around for good measure***

An upstart arrogant hick “prophet” with a new holy book comes on the scene demanding we kowtow to him or else he will keep us out of heaven and when we reject his false doctrines we are bigots.

I can live with that.

138 posted on 01/04/2008 4:05:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: SoCalPol
We need a Comander in Chief and Mitt doesn’t qualify.

Neither does Huckabee. McCain makes me shudder on a variety of levels.

Thompson is the only sane choice.

(Hunter fans need not reply, I know you like your guy but he isn't going to make it)

139 posted on 01/04/2008 4:12:06 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 The CONSERVATIVE CHOICE)
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To: prairiebreeze
I got news for you, if Fred loses to Huckabee in South Carolina, he’s cooked! Anyone that believes in Fred Thompson must donate and volunteer NOW, or Fred is DONE!
140 posted on 01/04/2008 4:16:07 AM PST by Blue Collar Republican (3 fingers of Jim Beam in a dirty glass)
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