Posted on 01/12/2008 7:44:27 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
Just days after announcing his campaign was literally moving to South Carolina, Fred Thompson is enjoying a remarkable spike in support across the state and from donors around the country. "From contributors on the internet, to voters packing his South Carolina events, even to pundits praising his debate performance, Fred Thompson is on a roll. We see the fight in South Carolina as critical. And we see Fred in fine fighting form,” declared campaign manager Bill Lacy. Key Stats and Information: The campaign has raised more than $300,000 online just since Fred’s dominating debate performance on Thursday night. Fifty-six percent of all online donors since Thursday night are first-time contributors. We have had 14,296 contributions since the Iowa Caucus with an average contribution of $98.
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I apologize.
I apologize. My intent was to say that we should not presume what God wants, which was how I interpreted the post I was responding to.
But I said so in a way that conveyed the opposite meaning.
So I agree with you that we should not speak for God, and that was what I meant to communicate.
I know I sure am.
that’s funny because I did it because I was inspired by another freeper! we can do this!
Your point is well-taken. In my view, Romney governed within the constraints of being in Massachusetts. Had he been governor of Georgia or Michigan for that matter, I don’t believe we would see him having so many problems with re-positioning himself. My gut tells me that he is fundamentally conservative and will not embarass us. The fact that he has experience as a governor is a plus. I was pleased as many were to see Thompson’s strong showing in Thursday’s debate, and I am definitely watching him closely. From what I see, Romney and Thompson are the best conservative choices. I hope that none of the others win.
I didn’t see the original post you refer to, and I would not have agreed with it had I seen it.
I think there is far too much fatalistic retrospective judgement applying “God’s will” in hindsight. I think doing that trivializes many important events of life and minimizes the role of free will in the acts of man. I have spent too many decades among the fatalists of the Islamic world to take any comfort at all in such statements. There, you can’t pick up a suit from the cleaners without invoking “Gods’s will”.
I am assuaged that you can see that your statement does sound as if you thhink God would oppose Fred Thompson. That was what I objected to.
I appreciate the lengths to which you have gone to apologize to each and every person you offended on this thread, and I accept your explanation and your apology.
The fact that you think you have the right to judge someone else’s Christianity makes me ill.
Your assumption that Thompson is not one of His (It’s supposed to be capitalized. I think you aren’t a Christian for not showing proper respect.) people is beyond the pale.
Stop stating as a fact that Jeri and the children don’t attend church. YOU don’t know that.
Maybe FRed is uncomfortable with the church Jeri likes, due to his more conservative upbringing. But you prefer to gossip and put your own interpretation on it without any facts.
The more I think of this, the less I think I had a point regarding the original post, which was at item 5 in this thread. All the poster said was "Praise God".
I interpreted that as a claim that God was pleased with a Fred surge, which then I interpreted as a statement that God was on Fred's side, and opposed to the other candidates.
I should have just accepted it as a statement of personal gladness in the report, which some people express in religious terms, and let it go. There are other posts that I could use to make the point I was trying to make.
On the other hand, I guess I made the point pretty well, through personal example. :-)
I thank you for being willing to give me a chance to explain myself.
I don't make that assumption. I assume he is a Christian. However, reading the post you are responding to, I can see why you said what you said. I was trying to note that God works through all people, not that Fred was not a Christian.
I think you’ve become an idiot. A desperate, sad, shell of your former self; who, lacking the necessary historical facts on which to base your offense and defense of your positions (such as they are) resorts to pure, unadulterated demagoguery as your modus operandi.
As I said in my first response to your blasphemous post...
You suck, Chuck!
You really ought to consider your opus, now, and self ban.
You are correct. I know that Fred as personally stated he did not belong to or attend a church in Virginia. I’ve seen nothing to say any of his family attend church. But I’ve also not seen a specific statement that they don’t.
Realise that as a political matter, the press would only have cared about his personal church attendance, and would never have thought about the religious implications.
I had not thought of the possibility that his wife belongs to a church and Fred simply did not feel comfortable with it. I think that knowledge would help him with some of the evangelical community who were put off by his statements. SO if it were true, and he has kept silent, it would improve my already good perception of him in general, as it would take a man of character to keep the information private when disclosing it would help him politically.
No, and I apologize for that inference. I actually was trying to say that we should not presume which candidate God would support, but the way I said it clearly sounded like I was saying God opposed Thompson, which I do not believe.
That is true. And certainly there are people who have prayed for guidance, and truly believe that their candidate is the one God has told them they should vote for.
In fact, obviously I believe that my candidate would be acceptable to God, because I would not support a candidate that I believed was unacceptable to God.
But if we all start claiming that God is on our side, where will that leave us? Now our political differences have become a religious fight over God’s allegiance. You see some of that with Huckabee’s candidacy, assuming the mantle of God’s chosen candidate (whether he means to or not).
I’m supporting a candidate that many don’t consider to be a Christian, and I’ve argued that it is not essential, because my candidate lives the family values that politically are important to Christians.
But while it was clear through revelation who God wanted to lead Israel, I certainly can’t tell which candidate God has chosen in this race (it would certainly be easier for me to support a candidate if I could).
I apologize for suggesting God would not support Fred — that was not what I meant, but my words clearly communicated that interpretation.
I just got back from church, which is from 10:45-12:00.
Some of my apologies are themselves a bit imprecise, because I felt it was important to get through all of them before I left for Church.
Sorry, but mistakes are mistakes, and you won’t get rid of me that easily.
Ooooh you went to church. Good for you. Was Fred there?
Maybe FRed is uncomfortable with the church Jeri likes, due to his more conservative upbringing. But you prefer to gossip and put your own interpretation on it without any facts.
You know what, I’d rather he didn’t attend “church” that be a minister that attends church and preaches SOCIALISM and LIES like a rug - I’m describing the Hickster, er the Huckster, er Mike Huckabee. Mike is a DISGRACE and doesn't preach Christianity - it’s HUMANISM fueled by socialism - totally UNCHRISTIAN.
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