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What Has Happened to Ron Paul?
The National Ledger ^

Posted on 01/14/2008 2:28:06 PM PST by mnehring

It was supposed to be a revolution. Ron Paul was set to take America and the world by storm by winning primary after primary on his way to the White House. The supporters of the ten-term US Congressman from Texas were convinced that the money he raised would equal support at the actual ballot box. Now in the cold hard days of January, the truth has broken though.

So what has happened to Ron Paul? The answer isn't difficult; his support was never very large to begin with. It was magnified by a presence on the Internet (or the "Internets" if you prefer) and it would never push through into the real world of voting. This was never really anything more than an online revolution that could never come close to cracking the mainstream of political thought.

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For a dark horse candidate, he made all that he could out of his Libertarian philosophies. He brought forward a whole bunch of young folks that didn't really understand the political process and they are now excited and involved. Of course, Iowa and New Hampshire slapped many of them across the face and Michigan and New Hampshire will do the same. Come February 5 even the staunchest Paul political supporter will have to realize that it isn't going to happen.

The problem that many didn't really understand is that Paul wasn't preaching anything new. This was the same Libertarian Party line that had been regurgitated over and over in one form of another for election after election. I'm not certain why so many thought it might be "magical" this campaign season.

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There is a reason that the Libertarian Party exists in relative obscurity. Though many of us hold several of the ideas of the party dear to our hearts and believe them fully, once the movement of the fringe takes hold it is too much to bear for most people.

Many scoffed at the "mainstream" and believed they didn't need them as their man Ron Paul would rise above and dominate. They didn't believe the polls that showed little support and the true believers don't even believe the votes that have been cast at the ballot box. I'm not certain if Paul and his supporters will go away quietly, but one thing is certain, they won't win this election or even come close enough to move the political debate.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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To: mnehrling
What Has Happened to Ron Paul?

Nothing as far as I can tell. He hasn't changed. People are just getting to listen to him. He doesn't know how bad he sounds when he is rambling about things he doesn't understand. People seem to expect a man with a career in congress to either know something about world affairs or keep his mouth shut.

21 posted on 01/14/2008 2:41:04 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: Khepri
He went back on his meds.
22 posted on 01/14/2008 2:41:05 PM PST by JimC214
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To: mnehrling
What Has Happened to Ron Paul?

My guess would be drugs

23 posted on 01/14/2008 2:41:10 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: mnehrling
once the movement of the fringe takes hold it is too much to bear for most people.

And cut and run is the fringe of the fringe.
24 posted on 01/14/2008 2:42:30 PM PST by John D
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To: mnehrling

One of these days the Libertarian party will field a legitimate candidate. Someone with credentials (Ron Paul had those), charisma and a genuine presence.

At that point the party, while it may not win, will be taken seriously.

The sad part is that the bulk of the libertarian ideals are good and, as an aggregate, the Libertarian party is right more than the Republican party (the democrat party is never right.)

The problem is that some of those areas where libertarians aren’t right can have deadly consequences...


25 posted on 01/14/2008 2:42:49 PM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Kellis91789
So the question is:

Who will Ron Paul endorse when he quits ?

He probably won’t endorse anyone. He’ll just pout.

Will it help or hurt whoever that is ?

It won’t matter one way or the other. His numbers are so low, it’s no real gain for anyone.

26 posted on 01/14/2008 2:43:29 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: mnehrling
I am watching Paul forums and they are disappointed at the low fundraising this quarter. There are even a few calls to kill the MLK day fundraiser because the pledges are low and they don’t want the embarrassment.

I guess George Soros is tired of wasting his money.
27 posted on 01/14/2008 2:44:29 PM PST by John D
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To: mnehrling
There is a reason that the Libertarian Party exists in relative obscurity.

More than one. Mostly that the Sixties are hard to explain unless you were there and if you were you might not have clear memories.

28 posted on 01/14/2008 2:44:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: JimC214

I see. They block the secret radio transmissions do they?


29 posted on 01/14/2008 2:45:02 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: rovenstinez
Ron Paul, in 30 years will get his accolades.

Yeah ... when he is dead and gone, and there's no danger of Ron Paul ever being in a position to really screw the pooch for all of us.

30 posted on 01/14/2008 2:45:37 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Duchess47

Old style Republicans don’t want to legalize prostitution or drugs.


31 posted on 01/14/2008 2:45:39 PM PST by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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To: mnehrling
The anti-war kooks are going over to Obama now, leaving the Paultard revolution in the dust.

Ron Paul 08' was all about "anti-war" and pretty much nothing else.

32 posted on 01/14/2008 2:46:06 PM PST by lormand (Paultards - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: mnehrling

Spamming internet polls and text message surveys can only take you so far.

H


33 posted on 01/14/2008 2:46:59 PM PST by SnakeDoctor
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To: Duchess47
I never felt he was a Libertarian, more of an old style Republican.

I don't know, Ayn Rand's description of the Libertarian party- Anarchist Hippies, seems to fit well with Paul and his ilk.

34 posted on 01/14/2008 2:48:21 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Down the road, (20-30 years), I think the Libertarian party has a chance of taking hold as these Paul supporters grow up.. (assuming some of them want to have kids of course)


35 posted on 01/14/2008 2:48:51 PM PST by Onerom99
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To: rovenstinez
"Ron Paul, in 30 years will get his accolades."

I hope you live to see how wrong you are.

Ron Paul will always be remembered for his echoing of Al Qaeda propaganda.

His small government stance will be drowned out by the insanity that was his foreign policy views.

36 posted on 01/14/2008 2:49:33 PM PST by lormand (Paultards - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: mnehrling
The problem that many didn't really understand is that Paul wasn't preaching anything new. This was the same Libertarian Party line that had been regurgitated over and over in one form of another for election after election...

Well, the racist claptrap is somewhat new...

37 posted on 01/14/2008 2:50:38 PM PST by gridlock (300 Million Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary Clinton will be one of them.)
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To: mnehrling

Ron Paul happened to Ron Paul, and most did not care for what they saw. He has some good ideas, but his shortcomings and head-in-the-sand approach to foreign policy would be a recipe for disaster.


38 posted on 01/14/2008 2:53:04 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Filo; doug from upland
The sad part is that the bulk of the libertarian ideals are good and, as an aggregate, the Libertarian party is right more than the Republican party (the democrat party is never right.) The problem is that some of those areas where libertarians aren’t right can have deadly consequences...

Actually, the problem with the Libertarian platform -- particularly in regard to international relations -- is that it pretty much requires everybody to agree to play by the same set of rules.

Once somebody leaves the reservation, however .... libertarian ideals prevent one from taking any sort of pre-emptive action. And thus you're left with stuff like Ron Paul's ultra-stupid comments to our own doug from upland, concerning what he would not do if Nort Korea was determined to be shipping a nuke to Iran.

It's not the only such stupid comment, but our Friend DFU did a fine job of putting it so nicely in the open for all to see.

39 posted on 01/14/2008 2:53:07 PM PST by r9etb
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To: skr
Old style Republicans don’t want to legalize prostitution or drugs.

They also don't try to play word games over issues of the constitutional limits of federal authority with arguments of "legalizing".

40 posted on 01/14/2008 2:53:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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