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Only Candidate to Act on Illegals is Trailing
The Daily Advertiser ^ | January 16, 2008 | Nick Bouterie

Posted on 01/16/2008 4:42:14 AM PST by conservativecajun

In a time when many Americans, especially Republicans and other conservatives, talk about the current illegal immigration problem, many either don’t realize or don’t care that the only presidential candidate who has actually done something about securing the border is polling about 1 percent and, as a result, is being left out of the debates — Duncan Hunter.

Congressman Hunter built the double-border fence along San Diego County, reducing illegal immigration by 90 percent and drug smuggling by 50 percent. He is also the author of the Secure Fence Act, which was passed into law last year.

Immigration is not his only strong asset, as Congressman Hunter is a veteran, former chairman of the Armed Services Committee and father of a son who served three tours in the War on Terror.

The GOP wants to tout itself as the party that is tough on terror and tough on illegal immigration, but the polling of someone with Duncan Hunter’s credentials and the lack of talk about him on conservative talk radio tell a completely different story.

If fighting terrorism and securing the border really are priorities of the GOP, then what credentials do Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani have?

http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080116/OPINION/80116005/1014


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: duncanhunter; hunter; illegalimmigration; president
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

Hunter may make a good Secratary of Homeland Defense in a Thompson/Romney or Romney/Thomson administration.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 6:27:05 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Man50D

“You need to take another look at the title of the thread. Duncan Hunter is the only candidate who has actually done something to stop the flow of illegal aliens by building a double fence, writing and getting The Secure Fence Act passed. That couldn’t be a better example of leadership. If that doesn’t illustrate leadership then none of the other candidates are leaders.”

That’s exactly why the naysayers want Hunter gone, they mostly go along with the McCain/Kennedy/Bush non enforcement.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 6:51:56 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: freekitty

“If fighting terrorism and securing the border really are priorities of the GOP, then what credentials do Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani have?”

Credentials? The Kennedy wing of the Gop don’t need no steenkin’ credentials!


43 posted on 01/16/2008 6:57:52 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: longtermmemmory
If you do not disagree with Duncan Hunter on fundamental political philosophy, but at the same time you state "He Cannot Win", did it ever occur to you then that you are precisely one of the causes of that "He Cannot Win" and have yourself to blame? If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If you disagree with his philosophy or votes, on the other hand, let's have it. I want to hear it.

Please indicate to us that you are more than a disruptor.

44 posted on 01/16/2008 7:09:51 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Christian Discernment and The Lord Tell Me that President Huckabee Will Be A Disaster For Our Nation)
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To: Mogollon
Actually, I’d rather not see Hunter in that position because the Dept. of Homeland Security (Defense) has merely become another bureaucracy within the Pentagon.

Too much bureaucracy aided to our vulnerability and lack of cooperation prior to 9/11, and is still in play.

45 posted on 01/16/2008 7:10:16 AM PST by conservativecajun (Hunter '08 - vote for the most qualified for the position)
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To: freekitty

This site is fun. It explains why TV and other media is so biased against the republicans. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008


46 posted on 01/16/2008 7:10:16 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Mogollon
Willard is a complete fraud like Hackabee!
Both use religion to cover their left wing positions!

Always look at what these people say and do before they
started their POTUS run.

I do not understand any person on a conservative site
thinking either are conservative!

47 posted on 01/16/2008 7:26:13 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: conservativecajun

The GOP wants to tout itself as the party that is tough on terror and tough on illegal immigration, but the polling of someone with Duncan Hunter’s credentials and the lack of talk about him on conservative talk radio tell a completely different story.
***That’s it in a nutshell. The GOP wants to talk tough and pull the wool over our eyes. The Rockefeller contingent is securely in charge, with flipflopping RINOs in the lead.


48 posted on 01/16/2008 8:52:57 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

you assume incorrectly.

It could also be that I have other candidates with the same positions as hunter and other issues which hunter differs. (ie his support for fair tax scam to name just one)

It is not that Hunter is a bad person or has bad offerings in total, it is just that other candidate offer more than hunter.


49 posted on 01/16/2008 8:56:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Antoninus
You know, when you keep doing the same thing over and over even though it's not working, that's a definition of insanity.

I never claimed to be perfectly sane.

I just pointed out one fact regarding human emotion, and how it is affects the leadership selection process.

Many people subconsciously select a person that they feel has empathy, or that understands their plight.

People do not always prefer the most conservative, competent person in the field.

It is an unfortunate part of the political process.

For example, I admire and respect Sen. Rick Santorum to the max. Best US Senator Pennsylvania ever had, in my view.

But for some inexplicable reason, the voters of Pennsylvania apparently thought that the dimwitted son of a former popular Governor (Bob Casey) would be better than Santorum, and thus Rick lost in 2006.

I am STILL depressed, and perplexed.

As conservatives, we must be willing to take our victories in small bites, here and there.

Or face the possibility of no victories at all.

50 posted on 01/16/2008 10:06:48 AM PST by Edit35
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To: freekitty
Don’t buy it.

Well, then how do you explain that Duncan got little to no support, or votes in any of the states, even conservative Wyoming?

Please don't blame it on money, because the Huckster had little money but he somehow got support.

Neither can the media be blamed. Duncan was there on stage with everyone else, with the exact same opportunity to motivate Republican voters.

It comes down to perception of electibility.

If Republican voters don't think someone can win, they are much less likely to knock their head against the wall simply to prove a point.

Is it fair? No...

But it is reality. Always has been.

51 posted on 01/16/2008 10:13:40 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Man50D
...let's sacrifice our principles so we can jump on the bandwagon for who we think can win!!!

Right or wrong, it is a combination of both -- principals AND electability.

Mainstream conservative Republican voters will gather their support around the MOST conservative candidate who ALSO can win.

I and others would LOVE to support Duncan Hunter if we thought he could defeat the sHrillary Obracko Bombo machine in November '08.

If he cant, what is the point??

So we can "stand on principals" with NO POWER while watching the Democrats raise taxes and legalize homo marriage and run the country into the multi-cultural abyss?

Pragmatically speaking, mainstream Republicans would rather get 60% of what this country needs with a Romney Presidency than 0% with a Obracko sHrillary presidency.

Of course the 60% is not guaranteed.

But we would DEFINITELY get 0% if sHrillary Obracko were to be elected.

52 posted on 01/16/2008 10:28:15 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
I and others would LOVE to support Duncan Hunter if we thought he could defeat the sHrillary Obracko Bombo machine in November '08.

This is the same tired old refrain that has been said from those who for some inexplicable reason have fallen for the socialist media driven biased reporting and polls. It is a false assumption that has existed practically before there were any debates. The reality is the socialist media and shun Duncan Hunter from the spotlight because they are terrified of a hardcore unshakable Conservative becoming President.

The socialist media doesn't mind giving attention to the other GOP candidates because the realize they have held positions contrary to Conservatism at some point in their careers and even in a worst case scenario will still be able advance socialism as they have done with George Bush in the White house. The socialist media realizes they wouldn't stand a chance with Duncan Hunter and many Republicans are falling for the trap.
53 posted on 01/16/2008 11:14:09 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D
This is the same tired old refrain that has been said from those who for some inexplicable reason have fallen for the socialist media driven biased reporting and polls.

I supported Duncan early on. Even sent him $20 twice, and $50 another time.

But there comes a time when you (I) have to face reality, which is that he just didn't catch on.

It's not the end of the world. I simply latched on to the person I thought would best promote Judeo-Christian conservative principals, and keep the US on the anti-Jihad pro-business straight and narrow.

We as conservatives can still get a lot accomplished, but by other means and through other people.

It does no good to get angry or depressed.

Just keep pushing on, if not for your sake, then for the sake of your kids and grandkids.

54 posted on 01/16/2008 12:02:30 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
But there comes a time when you (I) have to face reality, which is that he just didn't catch on.

I agree but that time doesn't occur before the primary season has begun.

I simply latched on to the person I thought would best promote Judeo-Christian conservative principals, and keep the US on the anti-Jihad pro-business straight and narrow.

You obviously didn't research Duncan Hunter thoroughly enough otherwise you would have realized you let go of a person who has strong Judeo_Chrisitan Conservative principles. I'm not a one issue voter. I look at the totality of where a candidate stands on all the issues. Focusing on only one issue will only result in the very type of candidate I'm seeking to defeat.

It does no good to get angry or depressed

I couldn't agree more. Nor does it do any good to have a defeatist attitude. It is a matter of practicality to choose that candidate which most matches my beliefs. Abandoning a candidate would mean jumping on the bandwagon under the false assumption one candidate will win or lose is more important than principles. I'm not willing to sacrifice my principles.
55 posted on 01/16/2008 12:30:03 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

Who decided he wouldn’t do well against the Dems?

All I am hearing from people like you are excuses of why he can’t be something or do something.

Look you have an opportunity here; so why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and vote for a real conservative instead of inventing all of these excuses why you can’t.

Unless; of course; you are voting the same old tired party line “the most electable” which is I might remind you how we got some of the worst Presidents in history.


56 posted on 01/16/2008 1:27:06 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Man50D

Now here’s a person with the right idea.


57 posted on 01/16/2008 1:41:30 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

Ah, you said the word pragmatic. Exactly. That’s what we have been doing wrong.

In the pragmatic world people feel they must back people that can win an election.

While American politics has always been built on the art of compromise; I feel that losing sight of our values and goals for the sake of compromise has led the American aim to be off the mark.
That is my only point. Duncan Hunter most closely mirrors my idea of what’s important for American values even though he is considered to not have a chance to win by some.

Also, we have backed candidates who can win over the years for so long that’s pretty much what all we do now. We have lost our foundation and issues.

For example: Immigration. This should have never happened.


58 posted on 01/16/2008 1:46:59 PM PST by freekitty
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To: AuntB

Oh so right, Aunt B


59 posted on 01/16/2008 2:56:31 PM PST by freekitty
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To: All
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60 posted on 01/16/2008 3:32:41 PM PST by Cindy
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