Posted on 01/16/2008 4:42:14 AM PST by conservativecajun
In a time when many Americans, especially Republicans and other conservatives, talk about the current illegal immigration problem, many either dont realize or dont care that the only presidential candidate who has actually done something about securing the border is polling about 1 percent and, as a result, is being left out of the debates Duncan Hunter.
Congressman Hunter built the double-border fence along San Diego County, reducing illegal immigration by 90 percent and drug smuggling by 50 percent. He is also the author of the Secure Fence Act, which was passed into law last year.
Immigration is not his only strong asset, as Congressman Hunter is a veteran, former chairman of the Armed Services Committee and father of a son who served three tours in the War on Terror.
The GOP wants to tout itself as the party that is tough on terror and tough on illegal immigration, but the polling of someone with Duncan Hunters credentials and the lack of talk about him on conservative talk radio tell a completely different story.
If fighting terrorism and securing the border really are priorities of the GOP, then what credentials do Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani have?
http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080116/OPINION/80116005/1014
Hunter may make a good Secratary of Homeland Defense in a Thompson/Romney or Romney/Thomson administration.
“You need to take another look at the title of the thread. Duncan Hunter is the only candidate who has actually done something to stop the flow of illegal aliens by building a double fence, writing and getting The Secure Fence Act passed. That couldn’t be a better example of leadership. If that doesn’t illustrate leadership then none of the other candidates are leaders.”
That’s exactly why the naysayers want Hunter gone, they mostly go along with the McCain/Kennedy/Bush non enforcement.
“If fighting terrorism and securing the border really are priorities of the GOP, then what credentials do Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani have?”
Credentials? The Kennedy wing of the Gop don’t need no steenkin’ credentials!
If you disagree with his philosophy or votes, on the other hand, let's have it. I want to hear it.
Please indicate to us that you are more than a disruptor.
Too much bureaucracy aided to our vulnerability and lack of cooperation prior to 9/11, and is still in play.
This site is fun. It explains why TV and other media is so biased against the republicans. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008
Always look at what these people say and do before they
started their POTUS run.
I do not understand any person on a conservative site
thinking either are conservative!
The GOP wants to tout itself as the party that is tough on terror and tough on illegal immigration, but the polling of someone with Duncan Hunters credentials and the lack of talk about him on conservative talk radio tell a completely different story.
***That’s it in a nutshell. The GOP wants to talk tough and pull the wool over our eyes. The Rockefeller contingent is securely in charge, with flipflopping RINOs in the lead.
you assume incorrectly.
It could also be that I have other candidates with the same positions as hunter and other issues which hunter differs. (ie his support for fair tax scam to name just one)
It is not that Hunter is a bad person or has bad offerings in total, it is just that other candidate offer more than hunter.
I never claimed to be perfectly sane.
I just pointed out one fact regarding human emotion, and how it is affects the leadership selection process.
Many people subconsciously select a person that they feel has empathy, or that understands their plight.
People do not always prefer the most conservative, competent person in the field.
It is an unfortunate part of the political process.
For example, I admire and respect Sen. Rick Santorum to the max. Best US Senator Pennsylvania ever had, in my view.
But for some inexplicable reason, the voters of Pennsylvania apparently thought that the dimwitted son of a former popular Governor (Bob Casey) would be better than Santorum, and thus Rick lost in 2006.
I am STILL depressed, and perplexed.
As conservatives, we must be willing to take our victories in small bites, here and there.
Or face the possibility of no victories at all.
Well, then how do you explain that Duncan got little to no support, or votes in any of the states, even conservative Wyoming?
Please don't blame it on money, because the Huckster had little money but he somehow got support.
Neither can the media be blamed. Duncan was there on stage with everyone else, with the exact same opportunity to motivate Republican voters.
It comes down to perception of electibility.
If Republican voters don't think someone can win, they are much less likely to knock their head against the wall simply to prove a point.
Is it fair? No...
But it is reality. Always has been.
Right or wrong, it is a combination of both -- principals AND electability.
Mainstream conservative Republican voters will gather their support around the MOST conservative candidate who ALSO can win.
I and others would LOVE to support Duncan Hunter if we thought he could defeat the sHrillary Obracko Bombo machine in November '08.
If he cant, what is the point??
So we can "stand on principals" with NO POWER while watching the Democrats raise taxes and legalize homo marriage and run the country into the multi-cultural abyss?
Pragmatically speaking, mainstream Republicans would rather get 60% of what this country needs with a Romney Presidency than 0% with a Obracko sHrillary presidency.
Of course the 60% is not guaranteed.
But we would DEFINITELY get 0% if sHrillary Obracko were to be elected.
I supported Duncan early on. Even sent him $20 twice, and $50 another time.
But there comes a time when you (I) have to face reality, which is that he just didn't catch on.
It's not the end of the world. I simply latched on to the person I thought would best promote Judeo-Christian conservative principals, and keep the US on the anti-Jihad pro-business straight and narrow.
We as conservatives can still get a lot accomplished, but by other means and through other people.
It does no good to get angry or depressed.
Just keep pushing on, if not for your sake, then for the sake of your kids and grandkids.
Who decided he wouldn’t do well against the Dems?
All I am hearing from people like you are excuses of why he can’t be something or do something.
Look you have an opportunity here; so why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and vote for a real conservative instead of inventing all of these excuses why you can’t.
Unless; of course; you are voting the same old tired party line “the most electable” which is I might remind you how we got some of the worst Presidents in history.
Now here’s a person with the right idea.
Ah, you said the word pragmatic. Exactly. That’s what we have been doing wrong.
In the pragmatic world people feel they must back people that can win an election.
While American politics has always been built on the art of compromise; I feel that losing sight of our values and goals for the sake of compromise has led the American aim to be off the mark.
That is my only point. Duncan Hunter most closely mirrors my idea of whats important for American values even though he is considered to not have a chance to win by some.
Also, we have backed candidates who can win over the years for so long thats pretty much what all we do now. We have lost our foundation and issues.
For example: Immigration. This should have never happened.
Oh so right, Aunt B
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