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The First Look At Hillary Documents
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 17, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/17/2008 7:56:25 PM PST by jdm

Judicial Watch has tried to gain access to the records from Hillary Clinton's task force on revamping the American health-care system, and has been met with considerable resistance. After seeing the first batch released by the Clinton library, one can certainly understand why. In a press release from Judicial Watch earlier this evening, they excerpted some explosive passages within the documents, passages which will create some uncomfortable questions for Hillary on the campaign trail.

First, an internal critique of Hillary's plan marveled at the unprecedented scope of government control over a private industry -- at least in peacetime:

A June 18, 1993 internal Memorandum entitled, “A Critique of Our Plan,” authored by someone with the initials “P.S.,” makes the startling admission that critics of Hillary’s health care reform plan were correct: “I can think of parallels in wartime, but I have trouble coming up with a precedent in our peacetime history for such broad and centralized control over a sector of the economy…Is the public really ready for this?... none of us knows whether we can make it work well or at all…”

The other two excerpts paint the effort in an entirely new and darker light. First, Senator Jay Rockefeller proposed that the federal government conduct smear campaigns against the opponents of the plan:

A “Confidential” May 26, 1993 Memorandum from Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) to Hillary Clinton entitled, “Health Care Reform Communications,” which criticizes the Task Force as a “secret cabal of Washington policy ‘wonks’” that has engaged in “choking off information” from the public regarding health care reform. The memorandum suggests that Hillary Clinton “use classic opposition research” to attack those who were excluded by the Clinton Administration from Task Force deliberations and to “expose lifestyles, tactics and motives of lobbyists” in order to deflect criticism.

Rockefeller had allies in mind for this effort:

Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”

Wow. Media Matters should contact Rockefeller to disabuse him of the myth of the liberal-biased press!

Some might wonder about the notion of the White House digging up dirt on its critics in order to shut them up. Of course, this memo came from Rockefeller to Hillary, and no one can say whether she responded affirmatively or scolded Rockefeller for his dangerous suggestion. We can say that the suggestion came up earlier:

A February 5, 1993 Draft Memorandum from Alexis Herman and Mike Lux detailing the Office of Public Liaison’s plan for the health care reform campaign. The memorandum notes the development of an “interest group data base” detailing whether or not organizations “support(ed) us in the election.” The database would also track personal information about interest group leaders, such as their home phone numbers, addresses, “biographies, analysis of credibility in the media, and known relationships with Congresspeople.”

Anyone remember Craig Livingstone and the 700 FBI raw-data files that the White House obtained illegally? The story broke in 1996, but the files got accessed in 1993 by the former director of the White House Office of Personnel Security. Judicial Watch sued over the case, attempting to uncover the reason the highly-confidential files were requested by the Clinton White House.

Even without that, the idea that the government should essentially spy on its critics as a means to extort their silence or to discredit them publicly is completely noxious. If nothing else, Rockefeller should have to answer for his proposal, and Hillary should produce her response to it. Voters should pay particularly close attention to this and remember how the Clintons worked and how they would undoubtedly work again if allowed back into the White House.

NOTE: Judicial Watch's website is down for some reason at the moment. I'll link to the specific documents when the site comes back up.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; corruption; democratparty; documents; elections; hildabeast; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; hillaryscandals; hillarysecrets; hrcjw; judicialwatch; shadowparty; socializedmedicine; stophillary; transparency; villainy
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To: jdm

Jay Rockefeller: an embarrassment to WV and to his family name.


101 posted on 01/18/2008 10:57:16 AM PST by relictele
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To: UCANSEE2; jdm

“Whose initials could be P.S.?”

“Patti Solis ?”

Likely... President Soros!/ sarc/ kinda?


102 posted on 01/18/2008 11:17:43 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SunkenCiv

If Hiterily gets elected with enough votes in Congress, these will be the good old days.

The purists, who will stay at home because our candidate couldn’t walk on water without getting the soles of his Teva’s wet will have gifted us with another Clintoon pillaging.


103 posted on 01/18/2008 11:22:22 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
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104 posted on 01/18/2008 11:27:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: jdm

105 posted on 01/18/2008 11:31:32 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Gondring

bingo — see post 82, if you haven’t already.


106 posted on 01/18/2008 11:37:55 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: SunkenCiv

That is bingo, I don’t want to win!


107 posted on 01/18/2008 11:40:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: DoughtyOne

Clinton’s papers will be destroyed before they see the light of day. Much the way much of the real history of the USSR will never be known. Even in that brief period of openness after the fall of the USSR, it was evident Stalin’s archives had been extensively vetted.

Same will happen to the papers of our own totalitarian-wanna be’s.


108 posted on 01/18/2008 1:34:34 PM PST by henkster (The koran is "Mein Kampf" written in funny curlie-Q's)
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To: henkster

That’s a very astute observation, even if entirely obvious. I for one didn’t key in on it.

I have come to the opinion that presidential papers should be collected and handled by a government agency. I am loathe to do that because I don’t like the idea of government being involved in most things, but a public committee set up by the president’s themselves has proven to be essentially a criminal enterprise in some instances. Clinton being the real proof of this.

Thanks for the comment.

BTW, Bush really screwed the pooch when he blocked access to presidential papers for extended periods of time. In the intance of Bill Clinton and even his own dad, it was vitally important that he not do so. It was one of his major failings IMO.


109 posted on 01/18/2008 1:40:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Wallaby
bingo — see post 82, if you haven’t already.

Good catch! Thanks! Was just able to skim the thread today after having only a glance last night. I'm looking forward to some finds that are a bit more revealing than these, too. :-)

110 posted on 01/18/2008 1:45:22 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I like W personally. I think he really tries to do the right thing, and I believe he has high personal morals. His problem is that he expects everyone around him to have the same moral standards and same view of what is right for the country. (And I mean the whole Beltway crowd; politicians, bureaucrats, media, lobbyists, all of them).

The way these snakes, esp. clinton-inc., play him a fool is really sad to see.


111 posted on 01/18/2008 1:46:19 PM PST by henkster (The koran is "Mein Kampf" written in funny curlie-Q's)
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To: henkster
Clinton’s papers will be destroyed before they see the light of day. Much the way much of the real history of the USSR will never be known. Even in that brief period of openness after the fall of the USSR, it was evident Stalin’s archives had been extensively vetted.

Exactly. Sandy Burglar was only one aspect of the campaign.

112 posted on 01/18/2008 1:46:45 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Enchante
I like:
These provisions will lend credibility to the charge that we aren't really providing people with their current options and that we're regulating fees permanently across the board. And the charges will be true.

113 posted on 01/18/2008 1:49:13 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: henkster

I believe there is truth in that. My view of Bush is that he simply wasn’t in tune enough for the job. Lest you think I’m saying he wasn’t good at all, that’s not the case.

With regard to some issues, his instincts have been good. With regard to many others his actions that should reflexively have been conservative, have been liberal because he wasn’t well grounded in conservatism.

He has been easily led astray, and for this very reason.

His dad was a long-time political figure. He should have known better than some of the things he did, and he has no excuse. His son wasn’t, and I just think we paid for that all too often.

It is true. The foggy bottom folks used Bush for a sock puppet at times. That’s a bit strong way of saying it, but I think it holds up.


114 posted on 01/18/2008 1:57:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: jdm

So who will be the first to out P.S. ?


115 posted on 01/18/2008 2:16:19 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (To Err Is Human. To Arr is Pirate. To Unnngh! is Freeper.)
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To: jdm

Gary Aldrich anecdote regarding health care and Hillary - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955955/posts


116 posted on 01/18/2008 2:42:25 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: jdm

Well, my visions of the wretched one have finally been publicly completely validated, not that I needed them to be, that’s for certain.


117 posted on 01/18/2008 2:51:27 PM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: jdm


RUSH: Stunning '93 HillaryCare Memos
118 posted on 01/18/2008 3:08:31 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ConservativeMind; Loud Mime

[... a couple hours go by and a bus in Nevada
loaded with casino workers injures 40 occupants ...]

I do not believe in coincidences. Do you?


119 posted on 01/18/2008 3:27:39 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Loud Mime

You mean Reno’s rage don’t you? Didn’t think Bill was that involved but don’t remember.


120 posted on 01/18/2008 4:27:16 PM PST by plain talk
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To: doug from upland
There would be intense media pressure on a GOP senator for a memo like this and calls for resignation.

Well, we’re the alternative media...let’s call for resignation! Isn't it about time we swung some muscle?

121 posted on 01/18/2008 5:05:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Beagle8U
P. S. is probably Paul Starr, who authored the book The Logic of Health Care Reform, upon which most of the Clinton health care plan was based.
122 posted on 01/18/2008 5:47:26 PM PST by gpapa (My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim)
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To: jdm; doug from upland
This was the elected government of the United States discussing how it would steamroller opposition to nationalizing an entire industry by smearing them and by avoiding discussion of the policy itself

And, correct me if I'm wrong, the American taxpayer funded this.

In other words, the American taxpayer funded the development of strategies on how to advocate against American taxpayers.

123 posted on 01/18/2008 6:21:32 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: kcvl

ping


124 posted on 01/18/2008 6:28:09 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: jdm
Lest we forget...

Another Judicial Watch coup...





125 posted on 01/18/2008 6:31:45 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LiteKeeper

“Hillary is a socialist...”

Hillary is a NATIONAL socialist...in Germany that is known as NAZI.


126 posted on 01/18/2008 6:33:26 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: jdm

The bitch is evil, period.


127 posted on 01/18/2008 7:56:58 PM PST by tomkat ( Infidels for FRed ®)
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To: MortMan

Paul Shaffer?


128 posted on 01/18/2008 8:12:55 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: jdm

Patrick Stewart?


129 posted on 01/18/2008 8:16:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: MortMan

Putz Schumer?


130 posted on 01/18/2008 8:17:45 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Gondring

My 2nd choice would be Pinch ‘Putz’ Sulzberger.


131 posted on 01/18/2008 8:18:27 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Enchante; Cyber Liberty

Ping!


132 posted on 01/18/2008 8:26:40 PM PST by Slip18 (Fred Thompson for POTUS 2008)
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To: Grampa Dave

...he said, with his KMA tagline.


133 posted on 01/18/2008 8:31:21 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: StarFan

Colmes is one of the MOST annoying people on TV. I get so I can hardly stand watching that show anymore.


134 posted on 01/18/2008 8:55:42 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Gondring

She certainly attracts people with funny hats...


135 posted on 01/18/2008 9:00:40 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

...and pardons them. But, of course, she had *nothing* to do with that!


136 posted on 01/18/2008 9:04:09 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: jdm

Paul Star, has he made any comment about this report?

His website:

http://www.princeton.edu/~starr/


137 posted on 01/18/2008 9:08:46 PM PST by Snerdley (800-417-7666, George Soros' nickle and private line to your Senators!)
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To: doug from upland

Wow!


138 posted on 01/18/2008 9:11:32 PM PST by The Mayor ( A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.—Proverbs 16:9)
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To: LibertyRocks; DAVEY CROCKETT; Founding Father; milford421; Calpernia

Ping.


139 posted on 01/18/2008 9:32:32 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: K4Harty
So who will be the first to out P.S. ?

I'll do it.

Photobucket

140 posted on 01/18/2008 9:37:00 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: Miss Didi

Bump


141 posted on 01/18/2008 9:41:22 PM PST by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: plain talk

Bill Clinton operates as a ruler with cut-outs.

There was no way that Reno operated without Clinton’s approval. No way.


142 posted on 01/18/2008 9:44:33 PM PST by Loud Mime (It is easier to wash dirt off your hands than blood = Gladiator)
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To: Bronzewound

ROFL! Too was too funny.


143 posted on 01/18/2008 9:59:51 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (To Err Is Human. To Arr is Pirate. To Unnngh! is Freeper.)
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To: Miss Didi

Hi Didi!

I think it takes 5 claws just to get around the cankles...

ewwwwww! just caught a visual...


144 posted on 01/18/2008 10:51:04 PM PST by rock_lobsta (I LOVE Global Warming!)
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To: Grampa Dave

That post of your is going to be my quote of the week for most of this year. :’)


145 posted on 01/18/2008 10:59:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: jdm

Senator Rockefeller also suggested news organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance [from the Clinton Administration] on how to time and shape their [news] coverage.”
***This same sentence could be inserted into a campaign memo from Hildebeast this week.


146 posted on 01/18/2008 11:09:23 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: Kevmo
Senator Rockefeller Insert any Democrat's name also suggested news DNC Propaganda organizations “are anxious and willing to receive guidance from [the Clinton Administration]Insert any Democrat's campaign on how to time and shape their slanted [news] Macaca / Foley/LarryCraig / Abugitmotorturegate / anything else damaging to conservatives / coverage.”
147 posted on 01/18/2008 11:50:30 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“is the public really ready for this?...”

the public loves this. they love when the democrats “fight” for them. (viva la revolucion)


148 posted on 01/19/2008 4:51:54 AM PST by ripley
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To: jdm

“voters nationwide should ask themselves if they want to return the clintons to power...”

“voters” will vote into office what they want. a majority of them are intellectualizing socialists who “feel” that republicans are mean, that bill and hiilary are nice, and that someone should “fight” the mean people who have more than they do. hillary! will be president, by hook, crook or voting machine and she will certainly “fight”.

(is the good senator from michigan laughing at us?)


149 posted on 01/19/2008 5:10:24 AM PST by ripley
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“hillary! is a national socialist.”

heil hillary! !!!!! (do not look into her eyes.)


150 posted on 01/19/2008 5:16:00 AM PST by ripley
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