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Where do all the Fred-heads go? [Free Republic poll cited]
Wash Times ^ | January 23, 2008 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 01/23/2008 7:49:01 AM PST by rface

So far, Mitt Romney is winning overwhelming support, according to a poll at FreeRepublic.com, which had been a place where Fred Thompson's supporters congregated.

(Excerpt) Read more at video1.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; huckabee; mccain; romney
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To: mnehrling

“I would love to see a link where Williams ‘officially’ endorsed Paul. Williams’ exact quote regarding the race was “I personally think that if we chose the president of the United States at random, we’d get a better president than any president since Ronald Reagan,””

Sigh

Williams was questioned about whether he might run for the Presidency by the Washington Times.

He said no, and added:

“If the framers of the Constitution were somehow to come back, Ron Paul is one of possibly only three people in Congress that they’d even talk to.”

Can’t find the original but it was cited by John Fund of the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?af8350fa-6f93-4a44-85c5-3ae1606f8ee5

“I also seem to recall someone pointed out a few months ago that the only candidate Williams has donated money to is Romney.”

Incorrect - none of the walter williams who have given are Walter E Williams, the economist.

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search_hp.asp?txtName=williams%2C+walter&NumOfThou=0&txt2008=Y&submit=Go%21


141 posted on 01/23/2008 9:04:50 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Ron Paul 2008 - for liberty! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

(laughing sadly)


142 posted on 01/23/2008 9:06:56 AM PST by CottonBall (The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. (Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854 ))
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To: CottonBall

I think the Supreme Court is the big picture, and I think Romney will pick better justices than McCain or Hillary or Obama would.


143 posted on 01/23/2008 9:08:17 AM PST by gruna
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To: factmart
Perhaps this will refresh your memory on Romney:

To Quote ROmney's own words:

"I signed–I would have supported the original assault weapon ban. ~~ snip ~~ And if there is determined to be, from time to time, a weapon of such lethality that it poses a grave risk to our law enforcement personnel, that’s something I would consider signing."

Here's an interesting post from www.fredthompsonforum.com.

"In his 1994 US Senate run, Romney backed two gun-control measures strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups: the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons"

And in 2002, when he was running for Governor of MA, Romney praised the state’s strong gun laws in a debate against Democrat Shannon O’Brien. “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them,” he said. “I won’t chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”

The most significant gun legislation Romney signed, as governor, was a 2004 measure instituting a permanent ban on assault weapons. The law was based on the federal assault weapons ban, which was set to expire. According to activists at the time, the bill made Massachusetts the first state to enact its own such ban, and Romney praised this move.

Romney's conversion on abortion is quite simply an election year accommodation along with the "hunter all my lifetime" thing, and Romney's not even honest.

Huckabee is just not very bright, Romney is smart and he is trying to buy the White House -- he is also smarmy and most of all he is a flipper....

Then thereis McCain -- he truly lives up to his reputation as a maverick voting with the democrats 9 times out of 10...and putting out feelers to change to the democratic party back in 2001 when he was a poor loser to George Bush and even as recently as 2004 considering the Veep spot with Kerry.

144 posted on 01/23/2008 9:09:10 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: gruna

That’s another part of the big picture - REAL big, that I forgot about.

Thanks, gruna.


145 posted on 01/23/2008 9:09:38 AM PST by CottonBall (The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. (Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854 ))
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To: rface

For the life of me, I can’t understand why anyone who supported FRed would pick Mitt. He’s the exact opposite in every way.

FRed was the only candidate I supported. (And that was in desperation.) I can’t see myself voting for anyone else, unless FRed’s on the ticket.


146 posted on 01/23/2008 9:10:36 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: CottonBall

You’re welcome.


147 posted on 01/23/2008 9:11:11 AM PST by gruna
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To: gruna

I don’t think that is the case at all... I think he would be just as bad as McCain or Huckabee on SCOTUS...


148 posted on 01/23/2008 9:11:19 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: factmart

I feel your pain, but consider the nomination of Supreme Court justices. Imagine the Court packed with liberals for the next 20-30 years or more; deciding thousands of cases over that time. Imagine the D.C. gun ban case or any other case of a Constitutional issue being decided by such a Court.

Imagine having no viable recourse when Congress and the President conspire to enact unconstitutional legislation. I think the possibility of having a center or right of center court is worth pulling the lever for any (R) - as distasteful the prospect may be.


149 posted on 01/23/2008 9:12:52 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: org.whodat
There is no ideologically pure candidate left in the race. Conservatives can vote a candidate and use that support to leverage concessions or throw the republican party under the bus but then have no one in office who gives a crap what they think. The conservatives came out hard in favor of Bush and he’s been nothing special although he did listen to them on some of their biggest issues. Don’t expect the same with Hillary in the WH.
150 posted on 01/23/2008 9:12:54 AM PST by misterrob (Mitt Romney-My Favorite 3rd Choice!!!)
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To: BOATSNM8

“Should we surrender the war on terror in exchange for smaller government?”

What war on terror?

Our borders are wide open.

We send Palestinian Fatah terrorists arms and money, and encourage them by pressuring Israel to give up half of Jerusalem - after we forced them out of Gaza, giving Hamas a huge victory. Now we pressure Israel to send fuel and food to Hamas who shoots missiles at them every day.

We continue to let thousands of military age male Muslim foreign exchange students into our country year after year.

We import Muslim somnali tribesmen as “refugees” by the boatload. Here in Phoenix, they all seem to work at the airport. I’m not kidding.

So much for, fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.

“I’m all for smaller government, but pacifism is the last thing that we need right now.”

What’s the alternative, borrow another $ trillion from China to use to fight their client, Iran? Then the dollar can fall further down the sinkhole and we’ll really lose.

That’s a serious question, btw. Not rhetorical.

We have national guard protecting Iraq’s border. Why not ours?

We aren’t taking the threat seriously now.

What Paul proposes is a net improvement. It took me a while to come to that conclusion, but I think the facts support it.


151 posted on 01/23/2008 9:15:59 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Ron Paul 2008 - for liberty! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/)
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To: Scarchin

Posting...


152 posted on 01/23/2008 9:17:29 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: KeyesPlease

” Imagine the D.C. gun ban case or any other case of a Constitutional issue being decided by such a Court.”

Bush’s DOJ filed an amicus brief SUPPORTING the DC gun ban.


153 posted on 01/23/2008 9:17:36 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Ron Paul 2008 - for liberty! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/)
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To: muawiyah
John Kasich

Kasich? No way, no how. I ain't a votin' fer that varmint. He's a Rino, an' a commie an' he voted agin' puppies and bluebirds. 'Sides that he farts in Church. Stinky ones.

154 posted on 01/23/2008 9:20:57 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: rface

. . . Yeah.


155 posted on 01/23/2008 9:21:30 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything)
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To: CottonBall

You’re right. I was just trying to throw in the obscure reference to political activity not being a dinner party. :)


156 posted on 01/23/2008 9:22:51 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We’ll just have to disagree on that.


157 posted on 01/23/2008 9:25:08 AM PST by gruna
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To: LadyNavyVet

Well, now you can understand why. I don’t think he’s lying about it, because nobody has come forward and said he was lying about it.

As someone else explained, it’s not an indictment of Thompson. It just suggests that at the start, they were seeing if he could get support for VP, and then he caught fire, and decided he had the support to be President.

Anyway, if Carl knew that, it would have been a factor in everything he wrote and said about the campaign.


158 posted on 01/23/2008 9:26:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rface

I was for Fred.

Huckabee is my 2nd choice.

Romney would be my 3rd choice.

McCain would be at the bottom of the list. Unfortunately, I believe he will be our next President. If it’s between him and Clinton/Obama I’ll put a bag, hold my nose and vote for the guy.


159 posted on 01/23/2008 9:27:23 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: org.whodat

Sorry, it’s an article from the Washington Times that actually mentions Free Republic.

A News article mentioning the site is NEVER spam.


160 posted on 01/23/2008 9:27:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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