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She Crucified Her Enemies And Burnt London To The Ground. Meet Britain's First Feminist, Boadicea
Daily Mail ^ | 2-6-2008 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 02/07/2008 3:19:53 PM PST by blam

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To: IronJack

History is written by the victors. Who knows.


21 posted on 02/07/2008 4:53:24 PM PST by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Yes, and he claimed he thought it was “Hilarious”... :))


22 posted on 02/07/2008 4:58:26 PM PST by sailor4321
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To: IronJack

How so? William Wallace came up a cropper in the end as well...


23 posted on 02/08/2008 11:16:00 AM PST by thundrey
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To: thundrey
William Wallace came up a cropper in the end as well...

But at least he inspired the Scots to unite, and ultimately to succeed in establishing Scottish independence. Boudica did nothing more than rouse some rabble to pillage a village, then get exterminated when the Romans had had their fill of her.

24 posted on 02/08/2008 6:15:01 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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Thanks Blam. Just by coincidence, Hillary is running for president. Historically, Boadicca was a disaster for the Iceni, yet is trotted out as an inspiration when Britain (which used to rule more territory than the Roman Empire) has some axe to grind against somebody.

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25 posted on 02/09/2008 11:42:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." -- VP Al Gore, 9/22/97)
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To: blam

This warrior queen can be rediscovered several times a year. What better reason to discover her again than a TV show.


26 posted on 02/09/2008 1:10:41 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: blam

Boudicca - she was some woman. Wish she was around today.
She sounds really “hot” to me.


27 posted on 02/09/2008 1:21:12 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Halgr; processing please hold; yorkie
Interesting article! Truer words were never spoken:

So how do we recognise the heroes and heroines of today? First, by absolute independence of mind, which springs from the ability to think everything through for yourself, and to treat whatever is the current consensus on any issue with scepticism.

Second, having made up your mind independently, to act - resolutely and consistently. Third, to ignore or reject everything the media throw at you, provided you remain convinced you are doing right. Finally, to act with personal courage at all times, regardless of the consequences to yourself.

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28 posted on 02/09/2008 2:59:56 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: mtbopfuyn

“Wish they would show it on this side of the pond. It sounds very interesting.”

I saw it on TV here somewhere. You could tell there were budget problems. her acting was a bit Hippyish.


29 posted on 02/09/2008 7:20:04 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: IronJack

Boudica did nothing more than rouse some rabble to pillage a village, then get exterminated when the Romans had had their fill of her.

You don’t know the h*ll what you are talking about. I’ll take Paul Johnson’s word and those from primary sources way faster than I would a guy who’s blowing a lot of hot air. Methinks I smell a bit of a mysoginist, not wanting to give a woman credit for anything other than hearth and kinder. You know, the old a woman’s place is in the home rap. If she did half of what they say, she was pretty damn heroic against all odds. Why don’t you go back to browbeating your wife, that’s if anyone would have even considered marrying you in the first place.


30 posted on 02/09/2008 9:49:50 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

YOU GO GIRL!


31 posted on 02/09/2008 11:10:53 PM PST by oswegodeee (Dee ( Born and raised in the south, yummy corn bread and BBQ ))
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To: flaglady47
I’ll take Paul Johnson’s word and those from primary sources way faster than I would a guy who’s blowing a lot of hot air.

Then why don't you take the word of the hundreds of historians who came before Paul Johnson and esteemed Boudica nothing more than a historical footnote? Could it be because Paul Johnson glorifies some barbarian trash who managed to upset a couple of Roman applecarts before being swatted like a flea?

Methinks I smell a bit of a mysoginist, not wanting to give a woman credit for anything other than hearth and kinder. You know, the old a woman’s place is in the home rap.

Methinks I smell a revisionist feminazi, aggrandizing the acts of some obscure "heroine" in order to assert a parity that nature doesn't recognize.

If she did half of what they say, she was pretty damn heroic against all odds.

"Heroic?" I doubt it. Defiant? Maybe. Vengeful? Little doubt. But I don't know that she accomplished much in the long run, or that the price of her defiance in any way offset the cost to her and her fellow savages.

Why don’t you go back to browbeating your wife, that’s if anyone would have even considered marrying you in the first place.

Not content to expose your ignorance, you compound it with childishness. You're no credit to your gender. Or to humanity, from what I can gather.

32 posted on 02/10/2008 8:15:27 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: blam

Mel Gibson is supposed to be producing a film about her due out this year. Haven’t heard anything more about the film than that, though.


34 posted on 02/10/2008 8:39:12 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (Islam delenda est)
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To: blam

>>But, on his death, the Romans ignored the will, flogged Boadicea, raped her daughters and seized all her husband’s property and estates.<<

I’d say pretty much anything she did in response was justified.


35 posted on 02/10/2008 8:44:11 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: blam
The Jews weren't the only people to try throw off the Romans. The "Pax Romana" was not for the benefit of the conquered peoples in the Empire.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

36 posted on 02/10/2008 8:49:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IronJack

Not content to expose your ignorance, you compound it with childishness. You’re no credit to your gender. Or to humanity, from what I can gather.

I go back to my comment that I smell a mysoginist. Even your name “Iron” Jack reeks of it. Go ahead and quote all of those hundreds of historians that say otherwise. I’m looking forward to reading your list and their comments. Paul Johnson, by the way, is a conservative historian, and I doubt he would be raising this woman to heroic proportions based on some feminazi platform. I think you are a bitter man who has had some bad experiences with women. My “woman’s” intuition is picking up on your negative vibes bigtime.


37 posted on 02/10/2008 7:26:15 PM PST by flaglady47 (Space for rent: seeking new candidate tagline that will last more than 1 week)
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To: IronJack
Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. </Obi-Wan Kenobi>
38 posted on 02/11/2008 12:03:04 AM PST by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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Boadicea May Have Had Her Chips On Site Of McDonald’s
The Telegraph (UK) | 5-25-2006 | Nick Britten
Posted on 05/24/2006 8:59:01 PM PDT by blam
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Military History of the Great Powers(The complete list)
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Posted on 05/28/2003 9:18:49 PM PDT by NP-INCOMPLETE
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“60 AD Boudica Rebellion- Lost Single Roman Legion slaughtered 60000 british celts.”

(besides that, led to the annihilation of the Iceni)


39 posted on 02/11/2008 2:19:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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40 posted on 02/11/2008 2:20:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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