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Time to Stop griping about McCain and start working to defeat the 'Rats
2/13/08 | Self

Posted on 02/13/2008 3:08:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

Face it. It is all but inevitable that McCain win the race for the GOP presidential nominee. Get over it. McCain will be the GOP nominee.

The time for divisive talk about how much you hate McCain for screwing the conservatives and how he is a RINO and his other faults is over. WE are doing NO ONE any good by continuing to publicly air our grievances about him. I know, I have done my share. I don't like him one bit, but he will be a far better president than either of the two 'Rats.

With the atmosphere as anti-McCain as it is, it would not be hard for a liberal posing as another McCain hater to sneak in and keep throwing rocks at that hornet's nest. So let's tone down the rhetoric and the vitriol aimed at him and TRY to find a common ground with him.

McCain, we can hope to influence and guide. Obama and Hitlery will absolutely NOT listen or compromise on any conservative issue.

We know that there is absolutely no way that the 'Rats will make the Bust tax cuts permanent if there is a 'Rat in the WH.

We KNOW that any Supreme Court judge who retires or dies will immediately be replaces with a pro-abortion, anti-gun, anti-freedom liberal; probably from the 9th Circus.

We KNOW that there will be nothing but pure amnesty and absolutely no border enforcement if a 'Rat gets the WH. The 'Rats NEED poor, uneducated, miserable people to advance their socialist agenda.

It is time to stop bickering and hating McCain and stop the postings about how you will sit home and watch Obama or Hitlery become the next president. That is worse than stupidity. It is admitting defeat and quitting.

And I for one will not give up and pout at my home on election day.

So here it is:

McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; hillary; manchuriancandidate; mccain; mcmexico; obama; yayanohervanity; yayanothervanity
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To: Blood of Tyrants
No No No No No No No No No
Never Never Never Never Never
to Juan McLamez
51 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:32 PM PST by webschooner (A Conservative voting for John McCain is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Graybeard58
I will vote for him, the alternative is not acceptable with me.

I'm sure there is a post or several of mine saying I would never vote for McCain.

But the alternative is one of the two Marxists the Democrats are trying to foist on us.

I too consider the alternative not acceptable.

52 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:32 PM PST by A message
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To: Graybeard58

No, I’m with you! We got him be default no fault of ours, especially here in Texas! So, I’ll be voting for him hoping that he’ll put on the ticket an outstanding conservative(if he can find one). This guy is not very healthy and if he should win the WH and his health is at stake at least he’ll have a good VP to take over! I’m looking at the bright side. We need to put the pressure on for a GREAT VP! A muslim in the WH will absolutely NOT DO!! I’ll crawl on broken glass holding my nose if I have to!! The SHE-DEVIL is cooked, stick a fork in her!!


53 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:32 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Blood of Tyrants
No No No No No No No No No
Never Never Never Never Never
to Juan McLamez
54 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:57 PM PST by webschooner (A Conservative voting for John McCain is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Best I can tell we get three choices. Fascism, Fascism lite and Stalinism. Not sure who is for what, but that’s the field.

Not going to vote for the jailer.


55 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:57 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: cripplecreek

You know I read this stuff and I’m a conservative and I think to myself, just what are you people thinking. It’s either back McCain or sit through 4 to 8 years of Obama or Hilary; can you really afford that? Have you thought about how far the socialist road these commies can take us?

Here’s some important points to remember!
1) If the CommieCrats win they will destroy the middle class pushing the middle class into the dependency class; while
2) Increasing their voter base by passing out so-called freebies to the dependency class; while
3) Increasing their voter base by speeding up the acquisition of new permanent CommieCrats by maintaining the open borders program favored by the CFR that controls everything.

The end result won’t be a three party system. At the end of their reign it will effectively be a one party system just as is the case of Britain. What are you going to do then? Move to Mexico? And the sad irony is that the wealthy class will just outsource themselves, go international and dodge the CommieCrats power grab. You’re being sacrificed by the greedy rich people!

Back McCain, by some time to build some real leadership. The genuine problem with the Conservative movement is that it’s a movement without a party. You’ve got to realize that without charismatic leadership to sway hearts and then minds you’re going to dwindle into nothingness and your money will be confiscated by the racist Black and Hispanic CommieCrats who have always hated your guts and always will.


56 posted on 02/13/2008 3:24:59 PM PST by glide625
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To: Dog

Digust is not anger.

Principle is not anger.

Setting out to destroy a party that betrayed conservatives, so something new, and better, can take its place is a plan.


57 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:02 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I wonder if McCain is going to pardon Compean and Ramos?
I wonder if McCain will apologize to social conservatives for calling them “agents of intolerance”.


58 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:03 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: Graybeard58

No, I’m with you! We got him be default no fault of ours, especially here in Texas! So, I’ll be voting for him hoping that he’ll put on the ticket an outstanding conservative(if he can find one). This guy is not very healthy and if he should win the WH and his health is at stake at least he’ll have a good VP to take over! I’m looking at the bright side. We need to put the pressure on for a GREAT VP! A muslim in the WH will absolutely NOT DO!! I’ll crawl on broken glass holding my nose if I have to!! The SHE-DEVIL is cooked, stick a fork in her!!


59 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:28 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: dragnet2

How about piss and moan?


60 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:01 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
We KNOW that there will be nothing but pure amnesty and absolutely no border enforcement if a 'Rat gets the WH.

WE know the same thing will happen with MCCain. So in short, NO Sale, Mclame can stick it.

61 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:20 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Dog
What if McCain picked an outstanding conservative....top notch as his VP. Would you all still say [no]?

Nothing removes his stench from my nostrils. It is a matter of trust. He is untrustworthy, and without honor. He is a traitorous bastard.

62 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:38 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: Dog
Its time...to get past the anger..

It's time for you to accept reality. The numbers aren't there for McCain. It's doesn't matter if conservatives rally around McCain or not. John McCain does not have the numbers or the funds to defeat Hillary/Obama. 20,000 people just saw Obama speak at the Kohl Center in Madison today. How many will see McCain speak? Several hundred?

63 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:47 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The 'road to ruin' is a long one of convoluted, exigent explanations and settling for the least inconvenient alternative. A little relaxing of princples here, more there, and there you have it - full-blown surrender of your basic (conservative) principles for the sake of fear and not knowing what the future holds.

Do you honestly believe the people who endured weeks, months of squalor, filth and harsh conditions coming to this country in rickety-assed ships thought about what's the most expedient alternative they had (we have now)? I don't think so. To accept this poser you say we must now vote for to avoid something worse is against all I (and, I hope many others) believe.

Not even! Not for a minute! Not Freakin' EVER!

64 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:51 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Time to Stop griping about McCain and start working to defeat the 'Rats

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to anyone telling me how to vote. It's really none of the business of some idiot Washington pundit if I never have any intention to vote for John McCain.

I think it's pretty infantile to hear all of the pundits get all scared when they realize they've picked a loser, then start trying to justify their idiocy by mindless tirades about how McCain's a conservative and can beat Obama. He can't. We know his record. It's not acceptable.

I don't see any conservatives rallying to McCain's camp. Frankly, I'm considering any alternative. Maybe we need a political apocalypse to set people straight on what conservatives are willing to tolerate within their own party. Don't really care if it takes four year to get the message through. They can't do it without us, and they need us more than we need them.

Unless they're just a great lot of socialists anyways, in which case, what's the difference if we support McCain or not?

So, good luck with your guy. He's not my lead weight to carry.

65 posted on 02/13/2008 3:27:08 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Revolting cat!
I’ve not voted for a democrat in 30 years. I’ll not start now. No to democrap Mclame
66 posted on 02/13/2008 3:27:08 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Bite me. I'm not voting for McCain today, tomorrow, or ever.

See, I tend to look at things asymmetrically.

A McCain presidency would be bad for the GOP as near to half the party would never be behind him. That would cause a 'downticket' effect in 2008 and 2010 as conservatives failed to turnout to vote in Congressional races and in state representative races. McCain and his followers can bitch, cry, moan, and complain all they want, but core conservatives will not support him unless he clearly addresses their concerns - even then, most of us would have good cause to doubt his sincerity.

A Clinton or Obama presidency would galvanize the GOP base in 2010 to more than likely take back control of Congress and possibly insure a GOP victory in the Presidential race of 2012 and probably insure a GOP Congress and White House in 2016.

In this case, I'd rather see a Dem win this fall than McCain.

Of course, if Huckabee (or even Ronald McDonald) got the GOP nod over McCain then I'd vote Republican.

67 posted on 02/13/2008 3:27:31 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: Dreagon
I wonder if McCain will apologize to social conservatives for calling them “agents of intolerance”.

The guy has a penchant for saying some unwise stuff, that's for sure.

His "100 years" remark about Iraq may be enough to cost him the election all by itself.

68 posted on 02/13/2008 3:28:34 PM PST by Oliver Optic
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So if we stop talking about McCain, what's left?

McCain for dog catcher!

69 posted on 02/13/2008 3:28:50 PM PST by SwankyC (McCain is the wrong liberal for the job.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; cripplecreek

Like “Cripplecreek” my family will be voting conservative, sadly that does not include McCain.


70 posted on 02/13/2008 3:29:21 PM PST by Drago
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To: Dog

My goal is to not live in Mexico - here in Phoenix.


71 posted on 02/13/2008 3:29:30 PM PST by donna (Hillary prediction: She will get prostate problems and withdraw her candidacy.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sorry I’m going to support conservatives.

I'm with you. I'll vote for the conservative. Which nominee do you recommend?

72 posted on 02/13/2008 3:29:43 PM PST by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam. The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

73 posted on 02/13/2008 3:29:49 PM PST by xJones (Mohammed (police be upon him))
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To: Dog
Hi dog,
You’ve mistake resolve for anger. I decided 10 years ago not to ever vote for McCain. I’m not angry anymore. But you can take it to the bank that I won’t vote for him.
It’s a little late for McCain to be courting the votes of the people he’s been stabbing in the back for years...
74 posted on 02/13/2008 3:29:49 PM PST by Robbin
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To: Dog
What if McCain picked an outstanding conservative....top notch as his VP. Would you all still say know?

This begging for votes and selling off conservative principles and discount prices is pretty disgusting.

75 posted on 02/13/2008 3:30:14 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ronnie raygun
Sorry, the Constitution comes first, before me, before you, before any of the nominees, and yes, before our armed forces - because it is the reason why we fight and who we are.

I trust the Constitution, it has protected our rights and our country from tyranny and from enemies.

I trust the Constitution more than I trust a man who has willingly and blatantly spit on it with McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, and McCain-Leiberman.

I trust the Constitution more than anyone demanding I prostitute my love of the Constitution for someone else's dream of power. I trust and defend the Constitution - but McCain does not, else he would never have assaulted it so many, many times.

I trust the Constitution and so must reject McCain as well as the other two candidates.

McCain violated the letter and spirit of his Oath to the Constitution more than once. To give him more power as a reward for such treachery is not rational - in fact, it is unthinkable.

I cannot and will not vote for an unabashed, serially confirmed, and backstabbing enemy of the Constitution no matter what. Voting for such a person is spitting on the Oaths of all who defend and protect the Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies.

The prospect is not either/or. It is simply no choice - there is no one "annointed" as a nominee who has not declared his or her emnity to our Constitutional Republic.

Thus, we must ensure that enough true Americans get into office in the Senate, Congress, and State & Local elections, because from there we can fight. Voting in a man who has shown his contempt and hatred for our Constitution is not even an option.

76 posted on 02/13/2008 3:30:34 PM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yawn. How many of these brow-beating vanity posts are we going to have to tolerate? The McCainiacs REALLY ought to go read this book:


77 posted on 02/13/2008 3:31:06 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Vote for McCain! Mental health is overrated!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m with you. Our choices are McCain, Hillary, or Obama. Wishing otherwise will not change that. Voting third party might give some a nice warm fuzzy feeling but that will fade when faced with the socialist policies of Hillary/Obama.


78 posted on 02/13/2008 3:33:24 PM PST by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to prevent a democrat in the White House.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

As long as McCain is taking money from Soros, I can’t see he’s a bit different from the Dems.


79 posted on 02/13/2008 3:34:27 PM PST by christie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
McCain
80 posted on 02/13/2008 3:34:35 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Dog
“I don’t like the things McCain has done...BUT I will not put another Clinton in the White House....like what happen in ‘92....by voting third party.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.......
the drums are pounding support Mccain support Mccain..
I no longer hear them - He has gone well past what anyone calling themselves Conservative should tolerate.
He will cause me to not vote for the GOP Presidential candidate for the first time since I returned from my second tour in Viet Nam. He reminds me of all that has gone wrong with the GOP and those who had the house the senate and the White house and did very little to reduce government
to get us out of the UN heck to defund Public TV and
what we got is bigger Dept of Ed, Bigger Rx giveaways-and open borders. No never will I vote for a RINO again
Here in MD we got rid of Gilcrest a RINO of the first order
thats what we need to do across America - vote the RINO’s out.McCain will never get my vote, let the Dems do the dirt not one of our own..I have See the light after BUSH
81 posted on 02/13/2008 3:34:59 PM PST by shadowgovernment
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To: Lucky9teen

The prez and his VP uniting America.


82 posted on 02/13/2008 3:35:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yepper...the Obamanation must not be allowed.


83 posted on 02/13/2008 3:35:25 PM PST by SoDak (Anyone but Obama)
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To: Dog

How can he take the fight to the terrorists? Is he going to quit trying to micro-manage our military to “play nice”


84 posted on 02/13/2008 3:37:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Actually, it’s time to enjoy the fun of watching the Democrats implode over Obama and the Bitch.

It’s time to ignore the Republican party until about mid-October. There’s nothing entertaining coming out of there, and nothing of substance will happen either. McCain is a known entity, so there is nothing to learn.


85 posted on 02/13/2008 3:37:55 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Wonder how the Dem base is going to react when either Hill or Obama wins the nomination? Are they going to pout and stomp their feet too? LOL Wonder if their leaders are going to shake their fingers at them?

I can't wait to see the explosion on their side. Probably make us look mild.

86 posted on 02/13/2008 3:37:55 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Robbin
It’s a little late for McCain to be courting the votes of the people he’s been stabbing in the back for years...

Yes, agreed, but let's play the devil's advocate here: just who are all those tacky Republicans that have voted McCain into first place? Our conservative dogs wouldn't hunt, they dropped out quickly, but we seem to be outnumbered when it comes to McCain. If you have any answers, I'd love to hear them.

87 posted on 02/13/2008 3:38:21 PM PST by xJones
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No thank you anyway.

I will write in my candidate of choice in the general election and after that I will end my 36 year association with the Republican Party.

It is obvious to me that a majority of people in this country are in agreement on the path this country has taken. I do not agree. I see little or no chance to restore our Republic...may it R.I.P.


88 posted on 02/13/2008 3:41:36 PM PST by KDD (Freedom begins between the ears. -- Edward Abbey)
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To: Dog
What if McCain picked an outstanding conservative....top notch as his VP.

I might vote for him under that circumstance - and will then pray every day that he has a mental or physical breakdown in his first days in office.

89 posted on 02/13/2008 3:42:04 PM PST by KevinB
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To: Dog
"Its putting someone in the OVAL OFFICE who will take the fight to the terrorists."

Oh, you mean that great man who won't let us use extreme interrogation techniques on those same terrorists?

90 posted on 02/13/2008 3:42:24 PM PST by mass55th
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To: willgolfforfood
McCain is already like a Britany Spears to me. I don't care what he says.

I don't care to read any post about what he's done, what he's doing, or what he plans to do.

I don't care who he's hanging with. Or hooking up with.

I don't care to hear his answers about any perceived problem, whether its a personal problem, or problem with some aspect of the country.

I don't care to take time to read posts from anyone who is crying while imploring us all to "Leave John alone!!".

I don't care, John. I'm just an insensitive voter, and I've lost interest.

The whine has gotton really bad hasn't it, LOL

91 posted on 02/13/2008 3:42:43 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: willgolfforfood
McCain is already like a Britany Spears to me. I don't care what he says.

I don't care to read any post about what he's done, what he's doing, or what he plans to do.

I don't care who he's hanging with. Or hooking up with.

I don't care to hear his answers about any perceived problem, whether its a personal problem, or problem with some aspect of the country.

I don't care to take time to read posts from anyone who is crying while imploring us all to "Leave John alone!!".

I don't care, John. I'm just an insensitive voter, and I've lost interest.

The whine has gotton really bad hasn't it, LOL

92 posted on 02/13/2008 3:43:10 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: roamer_1

“Nothing removes his stench from my nostrils. It is a matter of trust. He is untrustworthy, and without honor. He is a traitorous bastard.”
You hit it outta the park.
too many here on FR( I call them GOP BOTS )will brand us both as childish, stupid or worse..They think saving the GOP is what is important well after 8 yrs of GOP control of Gov I no longer feels The GOP is the best way to advance conservative principals. ONLY VOTING FOR CONSERVATIVES WILL DO THAT!!! .


93 posted on 02/13/2008 3:43:37 PM PST by shadowgovernment
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To: Blood of Tyrants
McCain, we can hope to influence and guide.

Do you really believe the drivel you're peddling?

Don't Ask McCain

I'm a Conservative first and a Republican second, and based on how he's repeatedly screwed Conservatives and how he has behaved toward his own constituents, if he gets elected, it will be without my vote.

That's final.

94 posted on 02/13/2008 3:43:48 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
McCain, we can hope to influence and guide.

Do you really believe the drivel you're peddling?

Don't Ask McCain

I'm a Conservative first and a Republican second, and based on how he's repeatedly screwed Conservatives and how he has behaved toward his own constituents, if he gets elected, it will be without my vote.

That's final.

95 posted on 02/13/2008 3:44:16 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Face it. It is all but inevitable that McCain win the race for the GOP presidential nominee. Get over it. McCain will be the GOP nominee.”

Calm down. McCain isn’t winning the Presidency. Period.


96 posted on 02/13/2008 3:44:32 PM PST by Bull Market (I will not vote for John McCain. Hillary's my girl!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I heard today (can't remember if it was on TV or radio) that "polls" (beats me which ones) of conservatives say that they will not vote McCain in the primary but will in the general election.

I can promise you that me and my entire large family will NOT VOTE MCCAIN. This is like a slap in the face. McCain is an insult as the nominee for the Republican party. I feel like they are ramming down my throat an ultimative.

DEFINITION OF MAVERICK:
An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother.
One that refuses to abide by the dictates of or resists adherence to a group; a dissenter.
From Texas History Book: Unbranded cattle that roamed the plains.

McCain is egotistical. If he defines the Republican party, especially conservativism, then it is time for me to look else where for MY REPRESENTATION.

97 posted on 02/13/2008 3:44:53 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Calm down: VOTE AGAINST MCCAIN!)
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To: Captain Kirk

Agree 100%

Sometimes is hard to see the forest for the trees.

I have been listening to the speeches given by the current crop of politicians running for president, is easier to bury your head in the sand, than see the obvious.

Mccain along with his supporters, look old, tired, wrinkled
unmotivating. I often wonder if the crowd is not boisterous, because, they fear they do not have enough oxygen or their walkers are to clumsy and in the way.

Whether you like it or not Obama with his idol, cult status
is energizing his base and followers, someone mention that this is a Seinfield episode instead of a run for president,
so be it, nonetheless there is a great amount of enthusiam.

In debating Maccain if Obama is the one challenging him.
Mccains people better make sure that the lighting and makeup for Maccain is controlled by his own people, and not the studio.

Kennedy beating Nixon on the televised debate, should be on the mind of the Mccain supporters.


98 posted on 02/13/2008 3:45:37 PM PST by pennboricua
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To: Blood of Tyrants
[ Time to Stop griping about McCain and start working to defeat the 'Rats ]

McLaim cannot win.. many of the rats' are republicans.. Better we clean house first.. Actually NO republican candidate can or will win this cycle.. None of them.. America(the women) WANTS Universal Health Care and will have it..

Better to plan a "COUP" at the convention, if not a coup then a TEA Party of some sort.. At least some kind of tv VISIBLE gambit of some sort.. THAT could be the last thing anybody in America ever hears from the republican party for a few years on main stream TV..

Did I say ZERO republican candidates will or even can win this time.. Oh! yes I did..
Its true you know..........

99 posted on 02/13/2008 3:46:46 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: mass55th

Then vote for Hillary....but don’t whine when we withdraw from Iraq.


100 posted on 02/13/2008 3:46:52 PM PST by Dog
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