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McCain's birthplace prompts queries about whether that rules him out (NY Slimes)
International Tribune ^ | 28 Feb 08 | Carl Hulse Published

Posted on 02/28/2008 3:40:11 AM PST by SkyPilot

WASHINGTON: The question has nagged at the parents of Americans born outside the continental United States for generations: Dare their children aspire to grow up and become president? In the case of Senator John McCain of Arizona, the issue is becoming more than a matter of parental daydreaming.

McCain's likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a "natural-born citizen" can hold the nation's highest office.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: canalzone; foreignborn; marines; mccain; nytimes; panama; president; seebreaking
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To: SkyPilot
The decision would depend on the federal Judges they can make any decision they want and if they are of the left they may make a decision that is not in the favor of John.
41 posted on 02/28/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Pravious

I suppose some lefties will get this taken to court right around Nov 1. Close enough to threaten the legitimacy of the election.


42 posted on 02/28/2008 5:09:14 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: SkyPilot

When did Hawaii become a state? wasn’t Obamamama born there?


43 posted on 02/28/2008 5:11:14 AM PST by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: Grampa Dave

We need to change thier name to The New York Enquirer, so they can have name recognition with thier sister paper


44 posted on 02/28/2008 5:13:27 AM PST by Quickgun
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To: org.whodat
Now we have the same people that claim they cannot pass a law that would take away the anchor baby BS without a constitutional amendment????

Who says it is the same people?

45 posted on 02/28/2008 5:13:43 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Experience Change!)
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To: petercooper
When did Hawaii become a state? wasn’t Obamamama born there?YES and yes, He was born there two years after it became a state.
46 posted on 02/28/2008 5:15:46 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat
The people who wrote the constitution did not believe in having military spread across the world. Don't bitch at me, you need to take it up with them.

If this is so then why, pray tell, have we had a navy throughout our entire history and why did we send our first foreign expeditionary force out at the end of the eighteenth century to fight the Barbary Pirates in the Mediterranean?

47 posted on 02/28/2008 5:16:11 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Vigilanteman
Aw jeeze!

LOL

48 posted on 02/28/2008 5:16:13 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Experience Change!)
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To: libstripper
If this is so then why, pray tell, have we had a navy throughout our entire history and why did we send our first foreign expeditionary force out at the end of the eighteenth century to fight the Barbary Pirates in the Mediterranean?

Forget it, he's on a roll.


49 posted on 02/28/2008 5:20:34 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Experience Change!)
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To: libstripper

Navy forces were suppose to go there and get the job done and come home. Women stayed home at that time. However the founders thought the man purpose of the navy was to prevent invasion. Ever read any??


50 posted on 02/28/2008 5:21:28 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

Only butt wipes post about people behind their backs.


51 posted on 02/28/2008 5:23:57 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

You made the statement that our founders never intended us to have our military spread around the world.

So from what I read, you think having our military out of country is wrong.

If I misinterpreted what you said I apologize.


52 posted on 02/28/2008 5:24:39 AM PST by gjones77
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To: org.whodat

thanks. I thought he was older


53 posted on 02/28/2008 5:24:57 AM PST by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: Philly Nomad

I’m not supporting McCain, and the new york times isn’t making me defend him.

I’m speaking of all children born to military parents stationed over seas.

And it it’s moot point why would the times write such an article, they want to put the question in people’s mind that McCain may not be a natural born citizen.

That’s like saying some one murdered a person, and then saying it doesn’t matter if they did or didn’t, you let the cat out of the bag and put the idea into some one’s head.

and did you notice that I never mentioned McCain’s name at all?

So please, think before you flame.


54 posted on 02/28/2008 5:27:59 AM PST by gjones77
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To: org.whodat; petercooper
born there two years after it became a state...

--and Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it was a state.

The big problem here is that in 1936 the Canal Zone was considered sovereign US territory.  The democrats made a big stink in the 70's to convince everyone that it was not a US territory.  Now, the government of Panama considers anyone like McCain to be a Panamanian.

If elected, McCain would be the first president with dual citizenship.

55 posted on 02/28/2008 5:29:46 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: maverickusna2009

Born on US soil to US parents in the US military...this is ridiculous.

Got to agree with you. It is more than ridiculous.


56 posted on 02/28/2008 5:30:16 AM PST by chainsaw (Monica Lewinsky's ex-sex partner's wife for Pesident ?....No Muslim in the WH either.)
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To: Philly Nomad; gjones77
they weren’t citizens of the host country

Panama does consider McCain a Panamanian citizen.

57 posted on 02/28/2008 5:33:23 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Quickgun

heh..I posted this back on 2/23..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1974983/posts


58 posted on 02/28/2008 5:33:37 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info on joining.You DON'T have to ride to belong)
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To: chainsaw
Born on US soil...

Whether it was US soil then (not everyone agrees), it sure as hell ain't US soil now.

59 posted on 02/28/2008 5:36:01 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Just like the leftists. Saying that if you are born to a military family, you are not an Amercian!

I think this should be the new attack on the NYT. I buy the paper for my neighbor every day because we do not get delivery of the daily NYT. I feel dirty every time I pay for it.


60 posted on 02/28/2008 5:41:07 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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