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The Epicycles of Global Warming
The American Thinker ^ | 10 mar 08 | James Lewis

Posted on 03/10/2008 8:52:32 AM PDT by rellimpank

When True Believers begin to harbor doubts, they don't immediately give up the faith. It's too scary; too much pride and money has been invested; too many jobs and reputations are on the line; and they need to find a new reason to live. So they always try to add on new wrinkles and qualifications to their crumbling story.

Today that's happening with the global warming cult.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; gorebullwarming

1 posted on 03/10/2008 8:52:33 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
His proof involves long equations, but the bottom line is that the warming models assume that the atmosphere is infinitely thick. Why? Because it simplifies the math. If on the other hand, you assume the atmosphere is about 100 km thick (about 65 miles) -- which has the big advantage of being true -- the greenhouse effect disappears! No more global warming.

Interesting. It is amazing what a few bad assumptions can do to a model.

2 posted on 03/10/2008 8:59:32 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: rellimpank

very good


3 posted on 03/10/2008 9:00:05 AM PDT by woofie (Impeach whoever is the next President)
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To: rellimpank
In the 1960s social psychologists studied a doomsday cult which made the big mistake of predicting the day of Armageddon. When that day came and went without crisping the world, the cult leaders didn't admit they were wrong. Instead, they discovered reasons why doomsday had been postponed. It was a triumph of faith over facts.

Sums up the "global warming" crowd quite nicely...

4 posted on 03/10/2008 9:01:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (A baby can't say Chinese additives make formula taste “funny" ... or poisonous,)
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To: rellimpank
His proof involves long equations, but the bottom line is that the warming models assume that the atmosphere is infinitely thick. Why? Because it simplifies the math. If on the other hand, you assume the atmosphere is about 100 km thick (about 65 miles) -- which has the big advantage of being true -- the greenhouse effect disappears! No more global warming.

Well, no wonder it's getting hotter, if the sun is in the atmosphere.

/do I need one?

5 posted on 03/10/2008 9:01:52 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: GOPJ

Sounds like the Russellites, too.


6 posted on 03/10/2008 9:03:03 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: rellimpank
The article alludes to the Doomsday Clock and the "Day of Armmageddon!"

The "Tick..Tick..Tick" commercial regarding "Global Warming" is a Childess attempt, (pardon the pun) to emulate the timliness of the threat!

Sunday's Dallas Morning News had an op ed piece about the failure of our educational system and the dumbing down of our society.

Tick..Tick..Tick the Obomba is ticking!!! Ain't that Hillaryous?

7 posted on 03/10/2008 9:03:58 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: rellimpank
Heard a round table discussion on the radio last week, actually everyone was on the same side of the table re globull warming. As they wrapped it up the moderator said “Thank you for attending this discussion on global warming, (background noise) I mean climate change”.
8 posted on 03/10/2008 9:08:13 AM PDT by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: GOPJ

Remember the Raelians from San Diego?....when the comet came by they comitted suicide in their Nike jumpsuits to catch the comet as it passed by.


9 posted on 03/10/2008 9:14:24 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: SF Republican
I’d be curious to see figures comparing how much money corporations, foundations and government agencies today give to global-warming skeptics versus how much they give to the other side. Again, I’m not suggesting that the researchers taking this money are corrupt, or that scientists will suppress the truth if it turns out the current prevailing view of climate change is wrong.-- John Tierney

As you said - "actually everyone was on the same side of the table re global warming"...

10 posted on 03/10/2008 9:16:41 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: rellimpank

Great read, thanks!


11 posted on 03/10/2008 9:20:02 AM PDT by wjcsux (Islam: The religion of choice for those who are too stupid for Scientology)
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To: rellimpank
This is amazingly delicious. Anyone have algore’s e-mail address?
12 posted on 03/10/2008 9:20:58 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SF Republican
Heard a round table discussion on the radio last week, actually everyone was on the same side of the table re globull warming.

There is another side? I looked all through the NY Times and listened to CNN, there are no other sides.

13 posted on 03/10/2008 9:23:48 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

-—garbage in , garbage out—


14 posted on 03/10/2008 9:27:54 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: steelyourfaith; xcamel

-ping-


15 posted on 03/10/2008 9:32:11 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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16 posted on 03/10/2008 9:39:21 AM PDT by xcamel (fairtaxers -- don't debate, Denigrate!)
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To: rellimpank
The science establishment is now going after the Galileos of our time for the same reason, because orthodox scientists are pretty frail human beings and don't really like to be wrong.

The dirty little secret is that it was this way with Galileo, too. Galileo wasn't persecuted by the Church, he was persecuted by the orthodox scientists of his day who wanted to retain the Ptolemaic astronomical model. The Church was the middleman, the orthodox scientists were the instigators.

17 posted on 03/10/2008 9:43:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: rellimpank
When True Believers begin to harbor doubts, they don't immediately give up the faith. It's too scary;

It's not really about global warming warming with these people. It's about fear and hatred of industrial civilization and economic progress, and hatred of man and the products of his use of reason.

18 posted on 03/10/2008 9:46:01 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: rellimpank

The left hopes that we will all quiver when we hear the words “computer model”. They want us to quake in awe and accept whatever the scientist “proves” with his model.

All models are based on assumptions. The model does nothing more than calculate the solutions to equations. The model is just the assumptions carried out to 12 decimal places.

If the assumptions are wrong, the results will be very wrong. It’s impossible for all the assumptions to be right when dealing with a very complex system such as the weather.


19 posted on 03/10/2008 10:22:22 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Bump for later read.


20 posted on 03/10/2008 10:34:03 AM PDT by wbill
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To: rellimpank
The trouble with these models is that they never worked. A model cannot predict the future, if it cannot also "predict" the past.

At best, these models have only accounted for the last 150 years (and that, only with lots of fudging), but we have climate data going back about 600 million years. They ignore about 99.999975% of the data range.

21 posted on 03/10/2008 10:54:28 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: mjp

>>It’s not really about global warming warming with
>>these people. It’s about fear and hatred of
>>industrial civilization and economic progress,
>>and hatred of man and the products of his use of reason.

Well said.

I notice they never turn down a dollar when its given to them.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 11:37:29 AM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: rellimpank; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 


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23 posted on 03/10/2008 2:19:27 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Delacon

Ping


24 posted on 03/10/2008 6:27:13 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Rurudyne

The Forces of Climate Sanity
BloggerNews | March 10th, 2008 | Rossputin
Posted on 03/10/2008 10:09:53 PM EDT by Delacon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983643/posts


25 posted on 03/10/2008 9:13:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the link!

I think the shrillness of the left over global warming may be as much a measure of its cult-truth status finally toppling before their eyes as anything. Their ringleaders must be desperate to get all the power and money they can quick. If they can grab enough of the former they’ll never lack for the latter.


26 posted on 03/10/2008 9:30:59 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rellimpank

good quick read thanks for the post !

bookmarking


27 posted on 03/10/2008 10:10:21 PM PDT by malamute
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To: Always Right; SunkenCiv; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A very interesting paper. The math is horrendous, and it will take me some time to digest this paper... in fact, I may not even print it off and try to do so. Possibly tomorrow or the next day. Nevertheless, if his summary is accurate, and I suspect it is, it could represent a real death knell of the theory of runaway global warming.


28 posted on 03/11/2008 2:36:00 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: xcamel

Thanks for the ping; BFLR!


29 posted on 03/11/2008 3:46:49 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Do Americans want a woman in ugly, high-water pantsuits as President? Going for the geek vote!!)
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To: AFPhys

Let us know how that goes.


30 posted on 03/11/2008 11:10:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: rellimpank
Bookmark
31 posted on 03/12/2008 4:03:38 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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