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LIVE THREAD - Under Pressure, Obama Prepares for Race and Unity Speech
Fox News ^ | 18 March 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 6:12:13 AM PDT by SE Mom

Barack Obama is preparing to deliver a major address Tuesday on race, politics and unifying the country after being hounded by questions about his relationship to a pastor whose sermons have been laced with anti-American invective.

In a speech whose religious significance could compare to one given in December by former GOP presidential hopeful and Mormon Mitt Romney, Obama may be forced to explain the philosophy of the 8,000-strong Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where the Democratic presidential candidate has been a congregant for 20 years.

In announcing the morning address, to be delivered in Philadelphia, Obama would not say specifically what he will discuss, but suggested he wants to cool down the atmosphere after incendiary remarks by his pastor, retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., blanketed the airwaves over the past week.

(Excerpt) Read more at elections.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: sarasota
Has Oprah weighed in on this? Is she a member of that church?

One of the the talk-newsies said yesterday that she was a former member of that church, but she left a while previous because she did not agree with what was being taught/preached there.
101 posted on 03/18/2008 7:06:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Crawdad

One more— I will learn how to spell ‘predictions’ this year.


102 posted on 03/18/2008 7:06:52 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: TomGuy

Sharpton said Oprah was a member of that denomination


103 posted on 03/18/2008 7:07:25 AM PDT by JFC
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To: SE Mom

Exactly, just like his wink-wink attempt with the Canadian government.


104 posted on 03/18/2008 7:07:36 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (McLame's ultimate message: Fed Up Conservatives, Unite!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

...not what kind of church I believe in, for that should be important only to me—but what kind of America I believe in.

Excellent point.


105 posted on 03/18/2008 7:08:09 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Spinner on CNN:

Melissa somebody — Blacks and others (whites) do not share the same vocabulary.

[What a load of BS — Can you understand that, Melissa?]


106 posted on 03/18/2008 7:08:18 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: austinaero
The keyboard’s in the mail....

Ohhhhhhh, grrreeeaaattt.....

Is it too late to send it UPS or FedEx? I have no confidence in our magnificent Postal Service.

107 posted on 03/18/2008 7:08:42 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: SE Mom

Like my father used to say about politicians, “If his mouth is moving, he’s lying!” LOL


108 posted on 03/18/2008 7:09:02 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: SE Mom

They showed the stage & podium where he’ll speak....enough flags or what!??! Why didn’t they make it an even dozen?
LoL


109 posted on 03/18/2008 7:09:25 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: SueRae

“Obama has consulted with up to 50 black church leaders”

I wonder if they were all Christian churches.


110 posted on 03/18/2008 7:09:58 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Crawdad

Since you’re going into prediction territory....

...I don’t think Obama will be the last African-American to run for president but maybe not for a long time.

....as for no Democrat convention this year....I’m not sure about that but I’ll see your prediction and raise you one.

I think that if the Dem powers reach the inevitable conclusion that Barack is UNELECTABLE, which he is and common sense should dictate, then I think they’ll make a move to get him out of there well before the Dem convention.

So you could be right about the lack of a convention, at least a formal one, but I’d have to think about it some more. But I think that someone, somewhere, or a bunch of someones, is going to make the logical conclusion that no way Barack can win the general election. And somehow, some way, waaaaaay before the convention, they’ll get him outta there.

The Dems are not going to want to provide such an attractive venue for the rioting that might be inevitable.


111 posted on 03/18/2008 7:10:12 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: SE Mom
that is an excerpt from JFK's speech, Obama will copy it, just change some of the words.
112 posted on 03/18/2008 7:10:20 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: TomGuy

those people on cnn sound like they had way too much caffine this morning.


113 posted on 03/18/2008 7:10:57 AM PDT by JFC
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To: nuconvert

Where is he?Hillary is at city hall in Philadelphia today.I heard that on the radio.


114 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:06 AM PDT by fatima
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To: sarasota

She was in the 1980’s but disassociated herself with the church. I assume it was because of the ties between Wright and Farrakhan and how Oprah would be perceived in that relationship.

Wow so Oprah left but Obama didn’t... Maybe Oprah should be the run running for president she showed better judgement.


115 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:12 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Standing by for the: if your not with us your a racist tactic.)
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To: SE Mom

He’ll deflect all of this with a “Why Can’t We All Get Along?” theme and drop it gift-wrapped into the laps of the white liberals and the media.

Unless he has a dog named Checkers, this ain’t gonna fly.


116 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:18 AM PDT by toddlintown (On Obama's moral compass, "N" doesn't stand for "North.")
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To: nuconvert

I just noticed that on the tv as I was reading K Lopez at The Corner posting the exact same thought!


117 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:22 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TomGuy

Melissa—”that hurted me TomGuy.”


118 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:36 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: sarasota

Oprah was a member of this church a long time ago and left. Reason? I believe it is the reason Obama should have left. She saw the bit time racist overtones going on there. But she isn’t saying anything and keeping her mouth shut. Oprah knows this is huge and can hurt Obama.


119 posted on 03/18/2008 7:12:10 AM PDT by Halls (Hebrews 12:4)
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To: SE Mom
“Stephanopoulos: You've been a strong supporter of affirmative action.”

“Obama: Yes.”

120 posted on 03/18/2008 7:12:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: maggief

That reminds me of the old popcorn bucket trick...


121 posted on 03/18/2008 7:12:56 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: fatima

I’m not sure where this is.


122 posted on 03/18/2008 7:13:35 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: SE Mom

I predict the MSM will declare that it was the grandest speech of his life, and that he has now put all of those nasty questions to rest.

Oh, and world peace.


123 posted on 03/18/2008 7:13:49 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Night Hides Not

Chris Matthews better wear diapers tonight to contain his leg tingles.


124 posted on 03/18/2008 7:13:59 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kellynla
Will he wear a flag pin?

Look at all those flags behind him, lol, trying a bit to hard to pretend he is loyal to the US.

125 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:09 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: TomGuy
Oprah, no matter how politically misguided, tries her best to help people, and gives people hope. I think she is genuine. She actually puts her money where her mouth is.

I do not neccessarily agree with her or the way she might help people, but you can not deny she tries to make people's lives better. I think this is what she sees in Obama.

126 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:26 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: farlander

Oprah started her own church. She is her own god. She probably contributed to this upcoming speech.


127 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:30 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Fishtalk
The Dems are not going to want to provide such an attractive venue for the rioting that might be inevitable.

That's one of the reasons they won't do it. Wouldn't want "the children" seeing such bad behavior.

128 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:31 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: nuconvert

Fox just said the National Constitution center in Philadelphia.It is not a rally.


129 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:39 AM PDT by fatima
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To: jveritas

Obama is even more a communist than the Clintons.


130 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SE Mom

There must be a mistake. There’s American flags in the background.


131 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:50 AM PDT by jdm ("You only live once and usually not even then." - Michael O'Donoghue)
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To: savedbygrace

“...healing divisions of the past...moving forward...yes, we can...”


132 posted on 03/18/2008 7:14:53 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Here’s the underlying problem he has: this speech is to supposedly address the Rev. Wright issue. Unfortunately he has missed the point. Rev. Wright would be a bigoted, socialist traitor regardless of the color of his skin or Obama’s. While this is an issue of race because of Wright’s blatant bigotry, it is also an issue of religion (anti-semitism), and American patriotism. Regardless of skin color, how does he seperate himself from a man who has such vitriol and hatred for the country he wants to “lead”?


133 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:04 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: SE Mom

Keep the cubicle-bound updated!


134 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:16 AM PDT by gridlock (They don't call us "The Stupid Party" for nuthin'!)
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What I would like to hear?

There is no government conspiracy to infect the black community with AIDS.

There is no government conspiracy to imprison black men.

There is no conspiracy to encourage drug addiction in the black community.

And, OJ was guilty.


135 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:24 AM PDT by jaybee
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To: SE Mom

Martin Luther King, Jr., great man, trying to continue what he was doing

“Keep hope alive”™

Might throw down a Jesus bomb, who knows

“Keep hope alive”™

“I love and work with whitey to get things headed towards the right course”

“Keep hope alive”™

Meaningless crap after meaningless crap

“Keep hope alive”™

Accolades

“Keep hope alive”™

In any case the reaction might be: “Forget the Sermon on the Mount, best speech in the history of mankind, period.” — Any moral superior, I am better than you, intentions are all that matter, white guilt victim/DNC pimp/MSM pimp/ etc. —

“Keep hope alive”™ is a registered trademark used with permission from Jesse Jackson Learn How to Throw the Race Card, Inc.


136 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:25 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: fatima

Will Hillary demand equal time?


137 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:26 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: pissant

That is true, pissant.


138 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:36 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (McLame's ultimate message: Fed Up Conservatives, Unite!)
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To: nuconvert

Phili.


139 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:38 AM PDT by jdm ("You only live once and usually not even then." - Michael O'Donoghue)
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To: Mercat
I look at the black people I encounter now and feel like the racial divide has widened and is too wide to cross in my generation.

I think you're hitting on the essence of why this mess with Obama is so disturbing/frightening. We do look at the folks we live with in our neighborhoods, work with, socialize with .... and now we ARE seeing color again .... and wondering if these folks have an 'Obama' veneer that hides the anti-American, white racist views espoused by J. Wright. Are these people we thought we 'knew' going to the kind of church that Obama goes to on Sundays and feeling this way, but hiding it from 'us'? I would differ by saying that based on what I'm seeing with J.Wright, the racial divide didn't widen, it has been wide all along, but like a deep wound, the outside skin healed over to hide a major festering abscess. Obama's candidacy and attention to J.Wright's philosophy has opened the abscess for all to see and be repelled.

I also think that Obama has used this church and its extreme views to prove to himself and others that he is 'black enough'. If he totally repudiates this ..... then what? Not 'black enough', not 'white enough' ..... just another less-than-mediocre politician with the unmitigated arrogance to think he's qualified to be president and now both blacks & whites are disburbed and upset with him. The Clintons don't have to say a word ..... Obama is like a fly caught on flypaper .... they don't have to pull off his wings to seal his doom.

140 posted on 03/18/2008 7:15:44 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (There's no "Green" in Red, White & Blue.)
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To: sageb1
Al Sharpton was just up on FOX and he declared that the United Church of Christ is a "white denomination", so consider that.

I didn't know there were white and black denominations, unless one has the word "African" added to it.

141 posted on 03/18/2008 7:16:20 AM PDT by Sender (Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: SE Mom
Curious.

For someone who refuses to wear an American Flag pin on his lapel, he apparently intends to stand on a stage filled with flags to give this oration.

Photobucket
142 posted on 03/18/2008 7:16:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: nuconvert

I have a link to that location, but I don’t know if it’s where he is going to speak. For a person who doesn’t hold his hand over his heart during the pledge or the national anthem, the setting reeks of hypocrisy.

http://foxnews-stream1.wm.llnwd.net/foxnews_stream1


143 posted on 03/18/2008 7:16:42 AM PDT by CedarDave (John, When will you treat conservatives the way you do fellow senators John, Hillary and Barack?)
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To: SE Mom

You go to a Catholic Church because you are Catholic
You go to a Lutheran Church because you are Lutheran
You go to a Synagog because you are Jewish
You go to a Racist, Hate Mongering Church because you are a Racist, Hate Monger yourself.


144 posted on 03/18/2008 7:16:48 AM PDT by JayAr36 (What good has Islam provided for the World?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You’ll take notice that the Trinity Church website has been TOTALLY revamped over the weekend?

The “I hate White People” and the archived sermons are gone now.


145 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: All

So what do you think Obama is really going to say today? How can he explain his continuing to be at a church where they support such hate? Because he continued to go to that church he was saying he agreed with everything that was being said there.

What can he say? NOTHING!


146 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:00 AM PDT by Halls (Hebrews 12:4)
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To: roses of sharon
Let's hear him say the Pledge of Allegiance before he begins.
147 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:05 AM PDT by fatima
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To: Halls

I read somewhere that Oprah left the church in 2005. The article didn’t say how long she was a member though.


148 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:11 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: MissMagnolia

I sincerely hope Senator Obama recognizes that his challenge goes far beyond Reverend Wright. If he is, indeed, a post-racial messenger he’s going to have to take on all the grievance peddlers who preach black nationalism/separatism.

“Hope” and “Unity” cannot be achieved as long as blacks are being indoctrinated to believe “whitey” is his oppressor and responsible for all his ills. Reconciliation cannot be one sided.

If Obama is to remain credible, he’s going to have to universally renounce black separatism and address its corrosive effect on African American progress. He can tell us all day long that HE doesn’t subscribe to it. But as long as he tolerates it among others, he will be seen as ignoring a major obstacle to racial reconciliation.

He has a wonderful opportunity. This could be his “Nixon goes to China”....or “Sistah Souljah”. Rather than retreat to the role of a black man scolding whites and blaming whites for racial discord he would surprise everyone if he instead scolded blacks for failing to grasp the olive branch when it’s offered. Now THAT would be earth shattering...and admirable.


149 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:23 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: rollo tomasi

Yes we can........
Yes we can..
Yes we can......

There is hope.....

Popcorn in your oatmeal gives it a little crunch.


150 posted on 03/18/2008 7:17:35 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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