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1 posted on 03/19/2008 2:36:05 PM PDT by blam
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GGG & Catastrophism Ping. (BTW, we're all gonna die)

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

2 posted on 03/19/2008 2:38:02 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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Light Pollution Reduction Initiative !


3 posted on 03/19/2008 2:41:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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"Global Ashfall".

Only a few letter off of what I think of Al Gore and his ilk.

4 posted on 03/19/2008 2:42:29 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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Ping for after choir.


5 posted on 03/19/2008 2:45:39 PM PDT by stayathomemom
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It’s quite intersting how many ways man or nature could conspire to knock 100 - 200 years of technology right out from under us. Or kill off 50% of the human race in a few years.


6 posted on 03/19/2008 2:46:24 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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So where is the caldera? A crater larger than Tambora between 23N and 23S can’t be that hard to find.


7 posted on 03/19/2008 2:48:24 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Ring around the rosie, pocket full of posies, ashfall, ashfall, we all fall down....
susie


8 posted on 03/19/2008 2:48:51 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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OK, smart guys, WHERE WAS THE VOLCANO?

Something of this magnitude could not have happened without leaving some serious clues as to its origin. Or perhaps it was an undersea eruption, maybe somewhere in the Bering Sea?


9 posted on 03/19/2008 2:51:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (No provision for ANY political party was ever written in the Constitution)
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Interesting post - thanks!


10 posted on 03/19/2008 2:52:25 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To make matters worse, there is practically nothing humans can do to prevent such a catastrophe from happening again—or to lessen its effects.

Wait, I thought that driving around SUVs jacked up the temperature by many degrees. Now they say that there is nothing we can do to prevent the earth from cooling in case of a major volcanic eruption? I'm confused.

What is the expected rate of major volcanic eruptions per century? Is there any chance that we are below that rate which would account for any warming? I think Krakatoa in 1883 was the last one which had a major world wide effect on climate.

11 posted on 03/19/2008 2:53:00 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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The book about this event is “Catastrophe”, written back aways. The author thinks the volcanoe that blew was in the area where Krakatau is now, and argued the eruption severed Java from Sumatra and created the Sunda Straits.


12 posted on 03/19/2008 2:54:00 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Carrier pigeons darkened the sky and buffalo darkened the prairie and ate all the corn.


13 posted on 03/19/2008 2:54:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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Bush’s great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather’s fault.


17 posted on 03/19/2008 3:49:41 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Go to Hell, Dook!)
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Thanks much for the post. As to where the supervolcano might have been ... the Gulf of Mexico, and in fact the whole of the Caribbean, seems to have a caldera shape. Any geologic studies been done on that, other than the possible meteor strike near the Yucatan peninsula?


18 posted on 03/19/2008 3:54:44 PM PDT by Wombat Ark
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I wish them luck, getting really crowded with volcanoes out there, the more we look the more we find.


19 posted on 03/19/2008 4:05:05 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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Importantly, volcanoes are different in how they behave, depending on where they are in the world.

For example, volcanoes on the US side of the ring of fire tend to “belch”, like Mount St. Helens. However, on the far side of the ring of fire, volcanoes tend to be “brittle” and explode, blowing the volcano apart, like Krakatoa.

I doubt that it was a Krakatoa-like explosion, because such eruptions create noteworthy evidence around the world, that is sure not to be missed. For example, that explosion altered the level of the river Thames in London, on the other side of the planet, by almost a foot swell.

People all over the world knew about Krakatoa. It was hard to miss.

But compare that to Mount St. Helens or Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines. Both affected the world’s climate, but not in a very dramatic way, unless you were downwind of them.

Now, the *scale* of the cooling, as well as the “dry fog” would seem to indicate that perhaps *several* large volcanoes had “belching” eruptions at about the same time.

Say, if you had St. Helens, Mount Pinatubo, Popocatapetl in Mexico, or Mauna Loa in Hawaii and other such “new world” northern hemisphere volcanoes erupt at about the same time, all that the Europeans and Asians would notice is a “dry fog” and colder temperatures.


21 posted on 03/19/2008 4:12:46 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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An example of climate change not caused by humans.


22 posted on 03/19/2008 4:16:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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30 posted on 03/19/2008 10:03:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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"In today's society, we're no less independent of nature than humankind has ever been," Wohletz said.

"In fact, we might even be more dependent on it."

Um, these statements are contradictory...gotta be careful when using those triple negatives...

32 posted on 03/19/2008 10:17:13 PM PDT by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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33 posted on 03/19/2008 11:53:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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