Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF
CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A US Airways pilot’s gun accidentally discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday, according to as statement released by the airline. The statement said the discharge happened on Flight 1536, which left Denver at approximately 6:45am and arrived in Charlotte at approximately 11:51am.
The Airbus A319 plane landed safely and none of the flight’s 124 passengers or five crew members was injured, according to the statement. It was a full flight. An airline spokeswoman said the plane has been taken out of service to make sure it is safe to return to flight. A Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman reached by WCNC Sunday said the pilot is part of TSA’s Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program, which trains pilots to carry guns on flights.
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“Recently FFDOs were being issued a new holster that had a slot to insert a padlock for transport.”
The FFDO program is a clear and unambiguous example of how goobers in gooberment agencies must not be allowed to do anything not specifically allowed under a strict interpretation of the Constitution.
Da Goobers invented a complex training program because Goober Philosophy 101 requires them to believe that pilots, many of whom (as ex military pilots) were previously sent aloft with nukes aboard their planes, are now somehow unable to be trusted with a handgun.
Considering how loud it is on those big planes, it's likely they never knew it happened!
B.S. It is still a NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE! What Dumba$$ is going to put a LOADED glock in a shave kit? How ignorant is that? How about just loading the clip and putting the clip in the bag with the gun, NOT IN THE GUN. In fact you could put the clip in the gun BUT DO NOT CHAMBER A ROUND.
Only a complete idiot would place a gun in an uncontrolled condition that had a chambered round.
A negligent discharge is caused by either ignorance or carelessness.The person can be considered ignorant, if they have not been trained.
They are careless, if they disregard their training.
Or a Glock while being holstered with a finger still on the trigger. That's happened before and probably will again.
Okay, if you like the freakin’ racist fraud, I could manage a few well chosen phrases to sling at ya. [Had a guy offer me a cool grand for my Rockola M1 Carbine with walnut stock the other day. I wouldn’t sell it for twice that, and it’s been parkerized.]
“Being, or characteristic of, an attractive former significant other with a bad temper.”
You never chamber a round until you are ready to use the weapon.
just because a person is a police officer that does not mean they have the training or the sense that God gave a monkey.
I will give up if you let me shoot it someday!
Just a maybe will shut me up.
Haven’t read the article yet. Betting it was a Glock.
I always have a chambered round. I am always ready to use my weapon.
Are you going to school me to think differently?
Not owning a revolver (other than cap pistols back in the Truman Administration), I have the following question:
When carrying one with an empty chamber, does the empty chamber have to be next to the one in the firing position, so that when the trigger is (accidentally) actuated, the gun advances to the empty chamber before the hammer drops?
Well now the Libs can scream that we need to BAN GUNS, and maybe just for good messure, BAN AIRPLANES too.
After all, don’t aeroplanes cause glowbull warming? There’s too much unnecessary travelin’ goin’ on out there anyway (except for Libs with private planes, of course).
LOL!
They were f@cking around with the gun in the cockpit. Guns just don’t go off without anyone doing something. Cockpits are pressurized and temperature controlled. There are no extremes in that environment that could possibly cause a gun to go off by itself. They were dicking around. The guy who’s gun that was needs to be fired.
Call the coroner. It will be a busy day.
The typical Sig Sauer is a good example.
Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, of course, but I think Sig makes a series of Double-Action-Onlys, as does Glock, mainly to satisfy requirements of law enforcement agencies. Maybe military also--not sure.
I don't know how much safer a DAO is, but statistics may come into play here. A LEO handles his weapon orders of magnitude more than the average civilian owner, so every little bit of improved safety would in theory translate to measurably fewer ND incidents.
Having once owned a Sig of the aforementioned SA/DA type, and now owning a relatively cheap DAO, I find the trigger pull on my particular DAO to be strong enough and long enough to make it difficult to fire accurately. I know for sure it's not going to fire without my finger on the trigger, given just the least bit of care in handling or packing.
I am not even going to try to explain why. Welcome to FreeRepublic.
In general a revolver is more tolerant may that be cheap or somehow defective ammunition, weather, etc. The revolver is as far as user break down is concerned, usually super easy, so is its cleaning. The extraction, self feeding, ammunition storage, and firing pin designs of many semi-autos are more prone to failure than the manufacturers lead one to believe with their perfect world accounts in some MTBF test. A defective magazine or a case with a damaged head might not feed or extract correctly, and with a revolver you would never even know there was something wrong with that round. We used older 38 revolvers in arctic infantry units all the way into the late 90s in Alaska such as 1-17 IN, 2-1 IN, and 501 IN when we still had an arctic mission. The Beretta already the mainstay in the US Army then, was not used by us because this weapon can fail in the arctic environment in which we operated.
As a civilian you are allowed to use ammunition not authorized in the military. You generally don't have to worry about bad guys wearing body armor either. A 38 is plenty, and it's what you load that makes the bigger difference vs. a much hotter round. Cheap ammo, low recoil, able to be small and compact, a 38 for self defense is just fine. -IMHO
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