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Feral cats, endangered birds each have defenders [Animal rights activists battle each other]
New York Newsday ^ | April 7, 2008 | PATRICK WHITTLE

Posted on 04/07/2008 6:05:51 AM PDT by Aristotelian

Every spring, as birds flock back to Long Island [N.Y.] in droves, Eileen Schwinn wonders whether this will be the season the cats get the last remaining pair of piping plover at Mount Sinai's Cedar Beach.

Schwinn, president of the Eastern Long Island Audubon Society, is racked with emotion over what she says is a "dramatic decrease" in species such as plover, bobwhites and ovenbirds threatened by the claws of stray cats.

But Cedar Beach's 30 or so feral cats have a powerful ally in a smorgasbord of animal rights groups, some of whom say Long Island's strays - estimated to be in the tens of thousands Islandwide, according to one rescue group - have as much right to the beach as birds.

The controversy in Mount Sinai reflects a battle playing out from Atlantic Beach in western Nassau County to Sammy's Beach on the South Fork - birders and cat lovers at loggerheads over what to do about feral cats believed to be preying on bird species as common as the tern and as rare as the ground-nesting piping plover.

Local government agencies charged with resolving the disputes often find themselves caught between flying fur and feathers.

"It's a very sensitive issue; it's a nationwide problem,"

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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To: Aristotelian

Thanks for the posting. =^..^=


41 posted on 04/07/2008 7:21:45 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

You’re welcome.


42 posted on 04/07/2008 7:21:54 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Constitution Day
*** You cat people are so predictable. LOL! ***

:-) yep we are.

But now we have a dog. A 10mo Yellow Lab 65# 'puppy'. Our college Sr daughter (Student Teaching now) surprised us one Saturday morning with it. After an hour with the cute little thing, that was it, 'we' now had a dog. But we still like cats.

Birds are something else. I've been pooped on by pigeons so many times growing up in Chi ... and now with goose cr*p all over our parks ... well - some birds just need killin'.

(Morning doves (fancy pigeons) are invading our neighborhood now and my pellet rifle is getting itchy again. It sits in its case and shakes when that frickin cooing starts)

43 posted on 04/07/2008 7:24:32 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Aristotelian

Are “homeless people” considered feral humans?


44 posted on 04/07/2008 7:27:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Aristotelian; Constitution Day

....our family has a beach house at Sunset Beach, NC and there’s a stray cat controversy there also....the cat lovers have set up feeding stations on the island to the dismay of some...they feel the hand outs just make the problem worse....we’ve adopted three cats off the island ourselves but can’t handle any more....they are breeding faster than they can be placed with families....they also get trap wise pretty quick so they’re hard to catch.


45 posted on 04/07/2008 7:34:50 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Ditter

Nope, the rising flood waters are from global warming, caused by man, you see.

Completely unnatural, naturally.

:-)


46 posted on 04/07/2008 7:38:03 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Aristotelian

People who like cats need to keep the bloody things inside, since you can’t fence them like dogs. Cat owners need to pay for licenses, just like dog owners. The strays need to be trapped and sent to the pound. If they are adopted, great. If not, so be it.

I’ve got a cat. She stays inside, where she can’t destroy the native bird population. She’s spayed, so she’s not spitting out unwanted kittens. When we first moved here, there were bobwhite quail, and turkeys. Then imbeciles built below us, and dragged in 3 cats that ran loose. Flippin’ things reproduced and eliminated all of the grounddwelling game birds in the area within 5 years. Cats target the baby birds that follow their mothers. It’s been 4 plus years since I’ve seen a turkey and 9 years since I’ve even heard a bobwhite. Years ago, I opened my door and there was a flock of 12 or more turkeys in my front yard.

I like cats, but they have their place. We have laws controlling dogs, and we need similar laws to keep cats from decimating game species, not to mention songbirds.


47 posted on 04/07/2008 7:40:13 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: Fresh Wind

They will be now....


48 posted on 04/07/2008 7:42:59 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Fresh Wind

They will be now....


49 posted on 04/07/2008 7:43:01 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Biggirl

You’re welcome ~o.o~


50 posted on 04/07/2008 7:53:09 AM PDT by Aristotelian ("I have a million ideas. The country can't afford them all." Hillary Clinton)
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To: theDentist
Call me insensitive, but I don't see it as a problem.

True, just shoot the damn cats.

51 posted on 04/07/2008 7:55:37 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: flowerplough
We’ve bred dogs to all sizes, teacup to titanic, but we never tried to produce Doberman-sized house-cats. That’s because Doberman-sized house-cats would try to kill us.

Small correction!

52 posted on 04/07/2008 7:57:53 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Constitution Day
"Seems like a no-brainer to me. Target practice, anyone?"

My thought exactly. Feral cats make a mighty fine target for .22 long riffle rounds.

53 posted on 04/07/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Condor51
Get that Lab into some sort of training!

(you'll all be happier!)

- owned by 2 Labs and a Siamese cat with an attitude

54 posted on 04/07/2008 8:09:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: org.whodat; flowerplough
Many years ago, I met Peter Capstick, the professional hunter.

One of his semi-famous sayings: "The reason we don't hear more reports of man-eating Siamese cats is, they're just not big enough."

55 posted on 04/07/2008 8:10:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Aristotelian
I fail to see the appeal of a feral cat. The neighborhood cats who are allowed by their "owners" to roam at will, use my gardens and flower beds as their toilets and message boards are for now targets of opportunity for my tennis ball slingshot.

If I didn't think I would be killing some beloved family pet, I'd use a more lethal weapon. But a feral animal? Ready on the right? Ready on the left? Ready on the firing line. Fire at will...or whatever you want to call it.

56 posted on 04/07/2008 8:21:28 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: Aristotelian

The cat population is maintained at artificially and unnaturally high levels by humans who feed feral and outside cats, and who get rid of predators that might control the cat population.

The cats are like muggers on welfare living in a city where honest citizens are disarmed.


57 posted on 04/07/2008 8:37:00 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: ltc8k6

Nice try but not global warming. This is/was Brazos river flooding. The Brazos River used to flood almost every year but in the last 30-40 years I don’t think there has been one that flooded our property. I guess dams/levees etc. have fixed that problem at least for us.


58 posted on 04/07/2008 8:39:13 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: theDentist
Its not “Nature” when people are artificially maintaining a pool of non native small predators by feeding the ‘feral’ cats. If they were truly wild then their population would be a lot lower, but people feed the damn varmints; who then wreak havoc on small native species.

Extinction is perfectly natural, but lets not abdicate our stewardship of the earth just because of that.

59 posted on 04/07/2008 8:52:54 AM PDT by allmendream
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To: Aristotelian

I prefer the wild birds myself. I trap house sparrows to make room for bluebirds and martins and house finches. (native species.)

THankfully we don’t have too many roaming cats.

It is funny to watch liberals with their conflicting agendas!


60 posted on 04/07/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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