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Let Lauren Live!
ChristtheKingMaine ^ | May 7, 2008 | Judie Brown

Posted on 05/08/2008 3:14:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

LAUREN RICHARDSON - YOU CAN HELP!
By Judie Brown

It has been a source of ongoing sadness to read of the difficulties Lauren Richardson’s father has had over the course of the past several months. For those of you who are not familiar with her case, Lauren overdosed on heroin on August 28, 2006. She suffered oxygen deprivation and, as a result of the overdose, is now in a coma and unable to speak out for herself. At the time of the overdose, Lauren was expecting a baby. Her parents honored what they knew would have been her wish and did all they could to keep her healthy and comfortable until the child was born. Today, though Lauren may not be aware of it, she is the mother of Ember Grace, who was born in February 2007.

Since the birth of her daughter, Lauren remains unable to speak of her concerns, but she has a loving father who is doing all he can to protect her from suffering the same fate as Terri Schiavo. However, Lauren’s mother, who has been named her legal guardian, is sadly not of the same opinion and is working with attorneys to pressure the courts to permit Lauren’s starvation.

Lauren’s father has kept hope alive, even at times when there appeared to be no hope in human terms. Lauren’s father is a man of hope in Christ and is dedicated to spending every breath he has on defending Lauren, regardless of what it might cost him in physical exhaustion and worldly goods. The most recent update for those concerned about Lauren tells us the following:

We struggle at times as we seek to share with the public the details of what is happening with Lauren because of the disagreement we have with Lauren’s mother. We cannot understand her reasoning in refusing a path of hope, healing and restoration for Lauren and insisting on causing her death by withholding food and water from her. The issue in Lauren’s case is the eternal truth that all people, no matter what their medical condition, bear the image of God and deserve basic care and an opportunity to be restored to health.

Bobby Schindler, Terri Schiavo’s brother, has written about Lauren in an editorial earlier this year, "False Compassion," and is working closely with Lauren’s father in order to provide expertise that he is uniquely qualified to share during a trying time like this.

There are many links on the Life for Lauren web site that will assist you in tracking this case and learning who is supporting Lauren’s ongoing care and who is opposing it. More importantly, there is something you can do to express your concerns.

ACTION NEEDED NOW

The governor of Delaware, Ruth Ann Minner, is being asked by pro-life Americans across this nation to intervene in this case in order to save Lauren from what many fear is an imminent court order dictating that Lauren be starved and dehydrated to death. I am asking you to be one of those who communicates your passionate belief that Lauren’s life is sacred and deserves to be protected from those who would order her death. The governor’s e-mail address is governor.minner@state.de.us.

Further, it would mean a great deal to Lauren’s father, Randy, if you sent him a copy of your e-mail to Governor Ruth Ann Minner. Randy’s e-mail address is Lifeforlauren@aol.com

During a recent visit to Anchorage, Alaska where Bobby Schindler was invited to speak, he told a reporter from The Catholic Anchor, "Once we accept that killing is an acceptable answer to human suffering, we lose any type of parameters. Euthanasia is a form of abandonment. It is not compassion."

Truer words were never spoken. As I frequently tell people who argue that we pro-lifers are being heartless and cruel for fighting to defend the rights of a "hopeless case," "God is the author of every human being’s life, and He has never given permission to a single one of us to arbitrarily rob another human being of life for any reason including disability or illness."

As Flannery O’Connor once wrote on the subject of false compassion, "In the absence of faith, we govern by tenderness. And tenderness leads to the gas chamber."

Lauren Richardson is not terminal – she is severely disabled. Lauren Richardson should not be murdered.

Judie Brown is president of American Life League and a member of the Pontifical Academy for Life.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charliecrist; googling; johnmccain; justsayno2johnmccain; lauren; moralabsolutes; prolife; richardson; schiavo; terridailies; vp
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To: All; grundle; narses; wagglebee; BykrBayb
No matter what the PP peeps try to show us, their intent is thinly veiled and their intent passes through. Thread by grundle. The topic is serious so please do not laugh. Thanks, narses, for the ping.

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PP's list of honeydews...

Consumer Reports gives Plan Parenthood condoms worst possible rating for "strength" & "reliability"

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1,401 posted on 09/14/2008 5:31:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Liberalism, the Pitts...

The left earns our pity if little else. For they cannot even conceive of our sense of good and evil. To them, we must have a collection of ideas which we categorize in a list ok for conservatives, and perhaps that list can be modified to fit the times. That is how they would do. What they are organically incapable of understanding is that we have solid and simple grasps of good versus evil, and some things fit as good and others do not.

We accomplish little when trying to convert them to our understanding. Sometimes they will buy what is on our "conservative" list, not because of comparable motivation but because it is something that fits their own collection at the time. But they will not grasp our motivation any more than our dogs would grasp our discussions of space travel. It is out of their realm. They DON'T get it because they CAN'T get it. With that, we have an example.

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According to my correspondents, those conservatives in charge weren't really conservative at all. As Roy from Sanger put it in an e-mail: "If you believe what we have had in D.C. so far this century is a conservative Washington, your perceptions are colored by a memory loss of what real conservatism looks like."

The funny thing is, I agree. Stack the traditional definition of "conservative" alongside the events of the past few years, and it's hard not to. It is, for example, difficult to find evidence of government getting out of people's way in the Terri Schiavo affair. Or evidence of lean, mean government efficiency in the Hurricane Katrina debacle. Or evidence of fiscal restraint in a projected $500 billion budget deficit. Or evidence of accountability in the eagerness to duck blame for all the above.

Conservatism, an ideology once driven by principle, has shrunk until its purview can be, and often is, delineated in three syllables: God, guns, gays. Worse, it has embraced a win-at-all-costs ethos and intellectual dishonesty that are, even by the seamy standards of modern politics, astonishing....................................

LEONARD PITTS JR.: Conservatism shrinks to God, guns, gays

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1,402 posted on 09/15/2008 3:32:50 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
But there is some good news...

Thread by wagglebee.

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The first step in reducing teen pregnancy and abortion is to know the facts. Actually, we know what works. Child Trends and the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy published their own data and the corroborating findings of a vast body of scientific research which found that the recipe for delaying sexual activity is parental involvement, good friends, strong faith and participation in church activities. The bottom line, they said, is that parents and friends have tremendous influence on their children, regardless of socio-demographic or economic background and characteristics.

Obviously, many of the nation's adolescents don't have those positive influences in their lives; researchers from the left and the right acknowledge the problems associated with single parent families, father absence, declining church attendance, and lack of community networks...........

Reducing Teen Pregnancies and Abortions

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1,403 posted on 09/15/2008 3:40:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; narses; wagglebee; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Sun; Dante3; TheSarce
This ought to be interesting! Scientology, with its wisdom and its people, has bumped up against Terri plenty. I hearken back to my first post of this day just upthread about a gaggle of folks who don't "get it." Thanks, narses, for the ping.

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Continuing the Saturday series on minority religions, a glimpse of Scientology:

Spanning 129 countries and about 500,000 members, Scientologists rank 22nd among world religions. It may be difficult for a full count, as it is more applied philosophy than religion, and thus allows members to belong to other faiths and still fully practice Scientology. Half of Scientologists also report being Christians...........

Scientology compatible with other religions

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1,404 posted on 09/15/2008 3:52:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Janet Rivera update...

Actually it is a recap of what we know but refreshing that the story propagates.

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A Sanger, California, heart-attack victim who was euthanized has won a verdict for life.

 

Family members had turned over the case of Janet Rivera to a public guardian who, after consulting with doctors, decided to remove her from a respirator and a feeding tube. According to LifeNews.com, Rivera was "denied food and water for 11 consecutive days in the same manner as Terri Schiavo."
 
IV stand and bagJosh Brahm, education director of Right to Life of Central California (RLCC), notes the family united to fight the decision. "This is actually a landmark case," Brahm explains. "This is the first time you've had a case where a united family who all wanted, in this case Janet, to live was turned down by the county who said, 'No, we're going to let her die.'"
 
Doctors did, indeed, remove the respirator and feeding tube, and the result was astounding.
 
"She should have died within two days; however, she didn't. She started getting better; she started breathing on her own," Brahm recounts. "This was completely unexpected, and all the different ailments that she was in [were] starting to improve. And the doctors were amazed, but the doctors did not give her back her feeding tube."
 
The family won a court battle to have both her respirator and feeding tube restored. Rivera's husband hopes she recovers eventually and is seeking rehabilitative care to help.

Euthanasia victim survives, fights back

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1,405 posted on 09/16/2008 5:44:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; BykrBayb; wagglebee; floriduh voter
"Hi, look at me! I am a stupid liberal and not ashamed of it..."

I excerpt what this leftie says. Just use the PP promoted devices like honeydew and watch what happens. Like magic, all will be well (or not, see related posts just upthread...)

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Lipstick. Pig. Palin. Pathetic. OK, now that I have your attention, can we talk about something important?

~Snip~

It's not the business of outsiders -- any more than the difficult issues surrounding the case of Terri Schiavo were the business of Congress. But many Americans also believe that abortion is a morally troubling issue and would agree with Bill Clinton's formulation from his 1992 campaign: Abortion should be "safe, legal and rare." So why don't we all unite behind a broad public campaign to urge the use of contraceptives?

Campaign for contraception will reduce abortion rate

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1,406 posted on 09/16/2008 5:55:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
The Puffington Host actually slips and leaves a slight nugget of truth in a barnload of muckables by reminding us of the Texas Futile Caregivers.

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Let's recall some of the actions taken by Governor and then President George W. Bush, who partly owed his re-election to the bishops' ardent--if sometimes indirect--support for his "pro-life" agenda. In March 2003, he launched a wholly unnecessary war (firmly opposed by Pope John Paul II) that has taken the lives of more than 4500 American soldiers, maimed or mentally traumatized at least 30,000 more, and killed almost 90,000 Iraqi civilians. In March 2005, just about the time that he flew into Washington to sign the bill that called for re-inserting a feeding tube into the abdomen of Terry Schiavo, a six month old boy named Sam Hudson died after a Texas hospital removed his feeding tube because his mother could not afford to pay for it. The Texas Futile Care Law, which gives health care providers the right to overrule indigent family members in deciding when to end a life, was signed by Governor George Bush..................

WHY CAN'T I BE PRO-CHOICE AND PRO-LIFE?

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1,407 posted on 09/16/2008 6:01:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Sometimes a great notion evolves in this example of self-loathing so evident in lefties. Thread by wagglebee.

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LONDON, September 15, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The great grandson of 19th century naturalist Charles Darwin, told media that he was "bemused" at an apology offered by a prominent Anglican cleric to his long-dead ancestor. Andrew Darwin, called "pointless" an article written by a prominent Anglican cleric that apologised for the 19th century Church's response to the publication of the Origin of Species, the book that began the debate over evolution.

"Why bother?" Darwin said, "When an apology is made after 200 years, it's not so much to right a wrong, but to make the person or organisation making the apology feel better.".........

Anglican Apology "Pointless" says Darwin Descendant

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1,408 posted on 09/16/2008 6:09:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Lest we forget innocent Eluana Englaro of Italy who languishes on death row alive only because doctors refuse the execution order asked by her father and ordered by the courts...

Thread by wagglebee.

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Lourdes, France (LifeNews.com) -- Pope Benedict XVI reminded Catholics to oppose euthanasia and assisted suicide in a Mass he conducted in France on Monday. He urged people to accept death "at the hour chosen by God," rather than succumb to the pressure or temptation of taking one's own life or that of another.

The message is important in Europe, where the Netherlands and Belgium have legalized euthanasia and Switzerland is tolerant of suicide clinics.......

Pope Benedict XVI Urges Catholics to Oppose Euthanasia, Assisted Suicide

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1,409 posted on 09/16/2008 6:26:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Well, Mr. hair plugs, well, Nancy Legosi, well, Teddy bare, what would you say now?

Thread by wagglebee on word from Fr. Pavone...

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new liturgical guide written and distributed by the head of Priests for Life aims to help priests preach the pro-life perspective on abortion. Fr. Frank Pavone, the head of the Catholic group, says the guide is the culmination of a three-year project to assist pastors. “For the past three years, I have written homily hints on how to take the readings assigned to each Sunday and preach on abortion,” Father Pavone told LifeNews.com.

“The lectionary has a three-year Sunday cycle, and today we completed the reflections for each Sunday of each of the three years. Now, these homily hints can be used as each cycle continues to repeat through the years," he explained.

Pavone tells LifeNews.com that many priests do not preach on abortion because they are not sure how to go from the Sunday readings into that topic....

New Liturgical Guide Helps Priests Preach Pro-Life Perspective on Abortion

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1,410 posted on 09/16/2008 6:32:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; tcg; floriduh voter; wagglebee
While on similar topics, we have this thread from tcg. Thanks, FV for the ping. I guess Barat Obama doesn't go along with this stuff.

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In 1987, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith of the Holy See issued its important teaching entitled “Instruction on Respect for Human Life in its Origin and on the Dignity of Procreation”. Among the many questions it answered was: “What Respect is due to the human embryo, taking into account his nature and identity?” The answer:“The human being must be respected - as a person - from the very first instant of his (her) existence.”...............

Editorial: Who Will Speak for Human Embryonic Life?

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1,411 posted on 09/16/2008 6:41:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The story of Jason Crigler...

Thanks, Leslie, for the tip.

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This is one of the good news stories that should be posted and distributed widely. When people are diagnosis as being in a Persistent Vegetative State (PVS) they do not expect that a person will recover in the way Jason Crigler has.

There is a very high rate of falsely diagnosis for (PVS) and if you look further into the condition you would have to conclude that Crigler was never in a PVS condition, but was rather cognitively impaired by the massive stroke.

The story states:

While playing a gig in a New York City club in 2004, Crigler - a strong, healthy man in his early 30s - fell to his knees. He went outside to get some air and crumpled to the ground. His wife, Monica, three months pregnant with their first child, was by his side. By the time an ambulance whisked him away, he was completely paralyzed.

Crigler had suffered a massive stroke, the result of an arterio-venous malformation, known more commonly as a bleed in the brain. Doctors predicted either death or a permanent vegetative state.

After six months of slow improvement at Boston’s Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital, doctors told the one-time ace guitarist he would always need round-the-clock institutional care. Nursing homes were contacted.

The story can only be understood within the context of the love of a family. Instead of living in a nursing home his family brought him home.

Crigler stated:

“My family’s love and support made all the difference,”

“It’s amazing how many fortuitous things happened. Certain doctors arrived at the right time. Playing guitar again was a big part of it. My work ethic, my strong will and my family’s support made the difference.”

“Ellie (his daughter) played a huge role in my recovery, and she doesn’t even know it,” said Crigler, who still can’t remember the 18 months after his injury. “In my darkest, deepest depressions, Ellie would walk into the room, and the darkness would vanish.”

The love and support of his family gave Crigler a new lease on life. The article states:

Before his stroke, Crigler was one of the top guitarists in the New York City singer/songwriter scene. He and his wife were members of the band Goats in Trees, and he played alongside Linda Thompson, Marshall Crenshaw, and Norah Jones. When Jones headlined a benefit show in 2005 to help offset Crigler’s medical bills, it pulled in $50,000.

Crigler’s parents set up a recording studio at his home. With their help, Crigler restarted the album project that had been half-finished at the time of his stroke. “The Music of Jason Crigler” features 13 diverse, expressive, self-written songs, with guest vocals by Crenshaw, Kenny White, Teddy Thompson and Eric McKeown.

“The album was a 9-year labor of love,” Crigler said.


He looked up, and, by chance, saw his mother and father-in-law across the street with his daughter, Ellie. He walked over and hugged her, smiling. This was one of the last facial expressions to come back to his once-immobile face.

Link to the article in the Boston Herald:
http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view/2008_09_15_Four_years_after_a_massive_stroke__Jason_Crigler_is_back_making_music__/srvc=home&position=also

Four years after a massive stroke, Jason Crigler is back making music

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1,412 posted on 09/17/2008 4:56:02 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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In Iowa...

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ABERDEEN, S.D. (AP) - The South Dakota Right to Life state convention features a doctor who used to perform abortions and the brother of Terri Schiavo (SHY'-voh) as the main speakers.

Schiavo died in 2005 at the age of 41 after a nationwide debate over her care. She was diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state after her heart stopped in 1990. Her husband wanted her feeding tube removed against the wishes of her parents.

Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler, now runs a center for health care ethics.

Also set to speak is Dr. Anthony Levatino of New Mexico, who plans to tell how he ended his practice of performing abortions.

The convention is scheduled for Oct. 11 in Aberdeen.

Right to Life state convention set

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1,413 posted on 09/17/2008 5:05:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Baroque Obumma, awww poor guy...

Written by a guy named Remington, I would expect something a bit less metro as he plays a joker wild as a race card...

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Since John McCain picked Sarah Palin, I feel as if I’m living a real life version of the movie Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? You know, the Civil Rights era movie starring Sidney Poitier, Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy? The entire movie is about the dilemma that a young, relatively inexperienced White woman presents to her family when she brings a Black man home.

The Black man is portrayed by Sidney Poitier, and he holds about 50 million academic degrees and is world renowned in the field of medicine. The young woman was only known for being pretty and White. The Poitier character, even after his many accomplishments, is suspect simply because he’s Black, which means he still might not be good enough to get a whiff.

~Snip~

But I can’t forget that the Republican Party involves itself in the private sex lives of individuals, the private reproductive rights of individuals, even the private critical family choices about the termination of life after illness, as was the case with Terry Schiavo. All of a sudden we shouldn’t pay attention to the choice of Palin’s teenage daughter to have a baby by a self-confessed teenaged redneck.

But again, if Obama’s hypothetical teenage daughter was a hood rat who decided to have a shorty with a neighborhood O.G., America would’ve collectively hollered, “Thanks for playing. Do not pass go. Do not proceed to the White House.”

So, as we proceed down the in-your-face, dumbed-down, anti-intellectual celebratory yellow brick road of ignorance that is contemporary American society, we must work hard for the change that we need. McCain and Palin have been very clever in switching this election from “What do you want?” to “Who do you want?” And if the question truly becomes “Guess who’s coming to dinner?” the racial double standard that is woven into the tapestry of this country may once again prove to be the ultimate decider.

Guess who’s coming to dinner: Obama forced to play rigged game with Palin

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1,414 posted on 09/17/2008 5:26:29 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
The Democratics, deconstructing over us Christianists, are once more in danger of dampening their fresh knickers as they fret uncontrollably at the growing prospect of oblivion. Sounds like they are on the wrong end of an exorcism.

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To understand how Team McCain intends to get away with stealing this election, we must recall how Team Bush got away with it four years ago. (Those aren't two different teams.)

The plan for stealing this contest has everything to do with the ostensibly surprising choice of Sarah Palin as McCain's VP.

~Snip~

Those numbers tell a very different story from the one hyped proudly by the men atop the Christianist machine. In particular, they said that they helped Bush prevail through their well-managed opposition to gay marriage--which Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, called "the hood ornament on the family values wagon that carried the president to a second term." That there was evidently no such wagon did not blunt the impact of such theocratic propaganda, which quickly resonated all throughout "the liberal media," so that it now stands as the truth.

Indeed, it was accepted as the truth so quickly that it went unquestioned even after the dramatic mass reaction to the Terri Schiavo case a few months later, when Bush and the Republicans in Congress intervened in that domestic tragedy, trying to force the very outcome that the Christianists were calling for: "Americans broadly and strongly disapprove of federal intervention in the Terri Schiavo case," ABC News reported. The public supported the removal of Schiavo's feeding tube by 63% to 28%, according to the network's polls.............

Mark Crispin Miller: Why They Chose Sarah Palin ...And What to do About it...

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1,415 posted on 09/17/2008 5:37:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Terri's Legacy is right in the thick of things as the contenders from the Obamunists battle to conquer our country. This notice of their motive comes from Ramesh Ponnuru of NRO.

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Finally, there's a section called "Freddoso Thinks He's an Expert on Everything." Here we learn, for example, that "Freddoso Accused Michael Schiavo And The ACLU Of Trying To Starve Terri Schiavo." Well, that's what they were trying to do, and what they did. You might prefer another characterization of the events, but his is accurate. If the Obama campaign wants to stay in the speech-suppression business, it ought to find some better thugs.

The Case Against David Freddoso

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1,416 posted on 09/17/2008 5:44:29 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Here we learn, for example, that "Freddoso Accused Michael Schiavo And The ACLU Of Trying To Starve Terri Schiavo."

There is a vast difference between an accusation and a statement of FACTS.

1,417 posted on 09/17/2008 5:48:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All; Minn; TheSarce
Donning a fresh pair of knickers and in grave danger of soiling them too, this leftie prays Obamunism will conquer America Justin time. Thread by Minn with thanks to TheSarce for the ping.

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It doesn't matter who wins! Seriously, guys, America is about to become, once again, the coolest place on Earth.

An era is ending. If you still think the US is home to all that is fatty and unwholesome and militaristic and cloth-eared and generally low-grade, and not much else, it may be time to give the Yanks another chance. Nothing Sarah Palin and her followers can do will prevent America's steady movement away from social conservatism.

~Snip~

Flabbergasted ping -- from the original article:
America's political recrudescence did not begin in 2008...

To be precise; at one o'clock in the morning of March 21, 2005, President Bush put pen to paper and (inadvertently) consigned the politics of the Eighties to the trash.

He had been woken by his staff to sign emergency legislation designed to save the life of Terri Schiavo...


28 posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:11:12 AM by TheSarce

1,418 posted on 09/17/2008 5:51:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

For the Obamunists, accusation is a valid substitute for facts or truth.


1,419 posted on 09/17/2008 5:54:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; PhilDragoo
Check out the new work by PhilDragoo!


1,420 posted on 09/17/2008 5:57:30 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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