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Authentically Black.
Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 07/07/2008 6:14:16 PM PDT by Lloyd Marcus

Authentically black. What the heck does that mean? Am I the only person on the planet who sees the blatant racism in such a statement? I love sushi. I prefer country music over rap. Does this make me less black?

White and black liberal democrats say if you don't fit their angry urbanite, Ebonics speaking, “who's the daddy” TV talk show viewing, welfare recipient with a criminal record stereotype, you are not authentically black. Looking down their intellectual and self-righteous noses of superiority they proclaim to minorities, “you poor inferior victims of American oppression, we sympathize and feel your pain”. They're offended by individuals who escape or bypass their “ghetto experience” box and go on to achieve great success. How arrogant. How racist.

Imagine MLK brought back to life and told, “Dr King, blacks who are educated, sophisticated, articulate and harbor no resentment against America are called Uncle Toms, traitors and inauthentic”. Dr King would think himself in an episode of the “Twilight Zone”.

Thanks to the heroic efforts of civil rights pioneers such as MLK, blacks are thriving in all areas of American business, society and influence. Unfortunately, benefactors of the civil rights movement are persecuted by liberals who claim to have their best interest at heart.

For libs who think I'm not authentically black, I'll spout a little hood lingo, “Yo, peace out”.

Lloyd Marcus


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Authentically black. What the heck does that mean? Am I the only person on the planet who sees the blatant racism in such a statement? I love sushi. I prefer country music over rap. Does this make me less black?

White and black liberal democrats say if you don't fit their angry urbanite, Ebonics speaking, “who's the daddy” TV talk show viewing, welfare recipient with a criminal record stereotype, you are not authentically black. Looking down their intellectual and self-righteous noses of superiority they proclaim to minorities, “you poor inferior victims of American oppression, we sympathize and feel your pain”. They're offended by individuals who escape or bypass their “ghetto experience” box and go on to achieve great success. How arrogant. How racist.

Imagine MLK brought back to life and told, “Dr King, blacks who are educated, sophisticated, articulate and harbor no resentment against America are called Uncle Toms, traitors and inauthentic”. Dr King would think himself in an episode of the “Twilight Zone”.

Thanks to the heroic efforts of civil rights pioneers such as MLK, blacks are thriving in all areas of American business, society and influence. Unfortunately, benefactors of the civil rights movement are persecuted by liberals who claim to have their best interest at heart.

For libs who think I'm not authentically black, I'll spout a little hood lingo, “Yo, peace out”.

Lloyd Marcus

1 posted on 07/07/2008 6:14:17 PM PDT by Lloyd Marcus
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Lloyd Marcus, you are not a black man, not by the standards set by liberals. To be truly black you must adhere to liberalism. It doesn’t have a lot to do with the color of your skin but with the color of your politics.


2 posted on 07/07/2008 6:17:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Are you certified black enough to criticize Obama?


3 posted on 07/07/2008 6:18:40 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Lloyd Marcus
Lloyd, check your card. If you have a card, then your authentic.
4 posted on 07/07/2008 6:19:25 PM PDT by BGHater (Heller v. DC= McCain-Feingold for Gun Control)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

good luck lloyd, I don’t understand much from the left these days either...


5 posted on 07/07/2008 6:20:11 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Indeed. The more faithful to a style, system or culture, the less “authentic” one is.


6 posted on 07/07/2008 6:20:18 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

If you love sushi and prefer country music over rap, you’re just not black enough.


7 posted on 07/07/2008 6:20:31 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Lloyd Marcus; darkwing104

Um...why are we discussing “blackness” on FR?


8 posted on 07/07/2008 6:21:16 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lloyd Marcus
Lloyd, I've got two questions for you. One, how do you defend your conservatism to other black Americans? Two, and more interesting to me, how do you defend it when faced with snooty white liberals? I can't imagine how you face down their idiocy.
9 posted on 07/07/2008 6:21:41 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Obama’s Black America:The New Nazis?


10 posted on 07/07/2008 6:23:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: rabscuttle385

My definition of “black”:
Would one have been prevented from using a ‘whites only’ drinking fountain or bathroom?


11 posted on 07/07/2008 6:23:39 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

“Dr King, blacks who are educated, sophisticated, articulate and harbor no resentment against America are called Uncle Toms, traitors and inauthentic”.
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Sadly, our country is still plagued by two forces that perpetuate the “black victimization” in America. The first are the individuals and organizations that preach nothing but hate, victimization and other self-serving dogma. The second are the black people in America that still would rather subscribe to this plethora of racism and victimization hate cultism, than become stand-up, educated Americans, independent of skin color.

Until professional racism is finally buried in America, I am afraid this tragedy of ignorance and “convenient hate” will continue. It is why I find myself yelling at the TV set when I see an image of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrachan (sp?) or the more recent Reverend Wright.

It is really up to black America to rise above professional racism and become stand-up Americans, free of ignorance, independent and self-sufficient as all Americans have the right to be, and should be.


12 posted on 07/07/2008 6:25:23 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Exactly.. divide and conquer.. Welfare and other kinds of PimPs are cutting out of the flock various folds of black sheep and shearing them.. And there are wolves too.. black and white wolves..


13 posted on 07/07/2008 6:25:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Lloyd, I’m still trying to find out from others on this site if I am “authentically” white. Any ideas? ;-)


14 posted on 07/07/2008 6:25:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: madison10

But Obama is not black. He is actually white as per the U.S. Census classification.


15 posted on 07/07/2008 6:27:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: thefrankbaum

I’m going to guess that Lloyd gets more static from white liberals than fellow blacks. White libs are the biggest racists on earth.


16 posted on 07/07/2008 6:27:53 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Clemenza

You aren’t. But I’ve heard that your body double is.

;)


17 posted on 07/07/2008 6:30:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: boop

Actually, white libs hate everyone equally.


18 posted on 07/07/2008 6:30:48 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Any American who is black and conservative is a brave person in this day and age.


19 posted on 07/07/2008 6:30:48 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: boop

Roger that, boop. I live just north of one of the most racist places in this country, the People’s Republic of Massivetushes. Especially Boston.


20 posted on 07/07/2008 6:32:50 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Past Your Eyes; boop

I’ll confirm that. I’m a southern boy, 100%. I moved to Worcester one winter to build scenery for a theater. Never in my life have I met more low-class, redneckish, racist, uneducated morons than in Mass. I was shocked.

There were good people too, to be fair- but I’ve never met dirtbags in the south as bad as that.


21 posted on 07/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: Lloyd Marcus
Nice rant, Lloyd. Have a Guinness!


22 posted on 07/07/2008 6:40:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Watch your extremities - we're hungry!)
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To: Graybeard58

No,Marcus IS a true black man-he is a critical thinker and an intellectual who sees through the nonsense and pretensions of the fakers and charlatans out there today.
A little story-my dear friend at work,a consumate black intellectual and Renaissance man,was hidden away in a corner of the locker room perusing a science book.Several of the”real” brothers walked in and not knowing my friend was in the room yapped out,That n***** Robert think he all that,reading them damn books all the time”
Like Ice T said,”Do you realize how ignorant you sound,thats the attitude that holds my people down”


23 posted on 07/07/2008 6:49:30 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: boop

True that.You won’t believe how many of my former New Left associates who so loved to”Smash Racism”in the Sixties,now live in expensive gated communities designed to keep out”those people”.Or else they TRY to be so multicultural but are considered complete squares by the current crop of blacks who seem them as mildly amusing at times but hopelessly archaic.


24 posted on 07/07/2008 6:53:28 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Lloyd Marcus
I think it's going to be bad for awhile, Lloyd, but then I think it's going to be all right. All of these stereotypes, these exaggerations, all of the crap that makes us want to hate one another, it won't last in the face of simple human decency. Grit your teeth. We're going to make it.

Now, country music?

This'd be Bill Pickett. I don't think he'd take kindly to rap. Or glorification of thugs. But he was kind of long on human decency.

25 posted on 07/07/2008 7:06:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Clemenza

“I’m still trying to find out from others on this site if I am “authentically” white. Any ideas?”

Are you bitterly clinging to your guns and religion? That would at least make you typically white. Right?


26 posted on 07/07/2008 7:10:16 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Lloyd Marcus
I love sushi. Does this make me less black?

I don't know about the black thing, buy we're going to have to clip a corner off your man card for eating sushi.

27 posted on 07/07/2008 7:13:53 PM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: Lloyd Marcus
White and black liberal democrats say if you don't fit their angry urbanite, Ebonics speaking, “who's the daddy” TV talk show viewing, welfare recipient with a criminal record stereotype, you are not authentically black.

Poor rural whites who speak substandard English, watch Jerry Springer, receive welfare, and have criminal records aren't considered "authentic" by liberals.

28 posted on 07/07/2008 7:15:43 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim?)
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To: Calpernia

just some more equally than others


29 posted on 07/07/2008 7:17:26 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

The leftist part of the Black community decides who is authentically black.


30 posted on 07/07/2008 7:18:47 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

I have never wondered in my life whether I was “authentically white”, and I’m not going to start now. The whole notion of racial authenticity is ridiculous. People are who they are, and everyone is a little different.


31 posted on 07/07/2008 7:20:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: Lloyd Marcus
"Am I the only person on the planet who sees the blatant racism in such a statement?"

According to the definition of racism in my dictionary, I don't see it. Perhaps the statement is offensive, definitely ignorant, but I don't see any racism.

32 posted on 07/07/2008 7:21:00 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Operation_Shock_N_Awe

>>>just some more equally than others

Nah. It is very much like that show Survivor. Every time they circle gets smaller, they turn on another of their own. They are so antisocial, they will turn on themselves when they run out of others.


33 posted on 07/07/2008 7:24:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: bk1000

LOL. True about the gun part, especially as I am surrounded by hoplophobes here in New Jersey. I am far from bitter, but aggressively vigilant against parlor pink gun grabbers from the Chicago area.


34 posted on 07/07/2008 7:24:55 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: Calpernia

I didn’t know you were still around.


35 posted on 07/07/2008 7:25:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

I blame Will Smith.


36 posted on 07/07/2008 7:27:24 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Lloyd Marcus

As long as there’s money to be made by exploiting white guilt, the insanity will continue.


37 posted on 07/07/2008 7:29:19 PM PDT by randita
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To: Clemenza

I wasn’t during primaries.


38 posted on 07/07/2008 7:35:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

You sound like Bo Snerdly....if you are...love your segment on Rush!


39 posted on 07/07/2008 7:58:59 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Lloyd, my friend, you haven’t lived until you’ve been told by a (supposed) fellow black conservative that, “You’re not black”.

An article quoting JC Watts as saying that he might support Obama is what initiated that little remark to me.

Now, I’m accustomed to being the odd-man-out in my family and anywhere in the black community, but I’d like to think that I could expect some common sense of community from my fellow black conservatives.

Having said that, I promote post-racialism whenever I can. I was actually raised that way by my very far-thinking and prescient parents, who saw that as the real solution to race troubles. I honestly don’t give a damn about anyone’s paint job.

As to the point of your post, I get it all the time, but I learned to ignore it a long time ago.


40 posted on 07/07/2008 8:08:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Mr. Marcus:

I consider myself an authentically black woman. And like yourself I don’t allow myself to get put in a box as to how I’m supposed to vote, what music I listen to, what events I attend, what books I read.... I wear my hair in kinky twists and wear cowrie shell jewelry, to look at me one would think I am a black militant. I love my people, but I wish we could all wake up to the joke that the Democrats have played on our people for over 30 years.

Stay True,
Brwnsuga


41 posted on 07/07/2008 9:00:12 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: HoosierHawk

I am a black woman, I love sushi, but I would rather rip my ears off than listen to country music. Give me some Bob Marley, Depeche Mode, the Smiths, the Cure or Prince instead.


42 posted on 07/07/2008 9:02:06 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Is 40% of the Ozzie population illegals?


43 posted on 07/07/2008 9:33:47 PM PDT by NoLibZone (All Democrats must be rationed fuel to reduce their hypocrisy about global warming.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Would you prefer discussing “Whiteness” ? ;-)


44 posted on 07/07/2008 10:31:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clemenza

Remember that speech Dennis Hopper gave about Sicilians to Christopher Walken in “True Romance” ? ;-D


45 posted on 07/07/2008 10:34:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: brwnsuga
"I love my people, but I wish we could all wake up to the joke that the Democrats have played on our people for over 30 years."

Or 200...

46 posted on 07/07/2008 10:37:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Would you prefer discussing “Whiteness” ? ;-)

There's a white girl who lived next door to me here at the University. I swear, she's a cutie. And her cat is adorable. The only problem: she prominently displays Obama signs in her window.

So, about that blackness...

47 posted on 07/07/2008 11:17:56 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

Whiteness or blackness is irrelevant.

Work hard, save and have a family. Take care of your children, stay off drugs and attend church. Be a good neighbor, work on your house, wave when people drive or walk by.

Don’t kill, steal or rape. Love your spouse, don’t cheat.

Vote Republican (yes, even Juan “Algore” McCain” and leave charity to your church, not Nancy Pelosi.

Move to Arizona or Florida at about 65 and die at 80 while playing golf.

Leave the kids a little nest egg and hopefully you have taught them well enough to no waste it.

(Repeat)


48 posted on 07/07/2008 11:41:41 PM PDT by wac3rd (LIBS GONE WILD)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, that's just dumbness.
49 posted on 07/07/2008 11:46:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well, that's just dumbness.

'Tis a pity, eh?

50 posted on 07/08/2008 12:00:50 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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