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Obama birth certificate has been REMOVED from "Fight the Smears" site...well, well...
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23021 ^

Posted on 08/09/2008 10:37:19 AM PDT by dascallie

The much vaunted "AUTHENTIC" BIRTH CERTIFICATE image has gone missing from Obama;s site...

Posted at HRC forum today below.....

Today, 01:04 PM

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The question remains of why Obama refuses to provide a paper copy of his COLB that can be ordered online and delivered in 4-6 weeks for pete's sake! This has been haunting him for a year, why won't he just make it go away?

Here is where Obama (or any immediate family member) can order up his COLB https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi

Because of his avoiding, I do think he has a citizenship problem.

We all know that the KOS document is a fake and that most likely it's a doctored version of Obama's sister's COLB. SO, either:

He was NOT born in Hawaii, there are theories about Canada.

PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE - It discusses his mother's trip to Mercer Island and his father possibly trying to get custody and the GOP digging up Obama's Kenyan citizenship. http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.p...7-14&ID=244223

But I'm leaning more towards the Kenyan theory.

OH, and NEWSFLASH: Obama has TAKEN DOWN the fake birth certificate on his Fight the smears page. The Birth Certificate section is TOTALLY GONE

http://my.barackobama.com/page/conte...kactioncenter/

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To: anymouse

You do realize you can get replacement birth certificates?


41 posted on 08/09/2008 12:24:44 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: dascallie
The question remains of why Obama refuses to provide a paper copy of his COLB that can be ordered online and delivered in 4-6 weeks for pete's sake! This has been haunting him for a year, why won't he just make it go away?

With all the COLB controversy, it is apparently tougher to play Little League than run for POTUS.

42 posted on 08/09/2008 12:24:46 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: anymouse

Nobody has ever said this was a copy of the original 1961 BC, but that it’s a copy of a later ordered duplicate BC. For example I don’t have my original BC instead I have a duplicate I ordered from vital records in the 90’s. This “copy” was actually printed in June 2007 it looks like (reverse the imprinted date from the back)...well after the laser printer was invented, so that is a null issue.

The issue is that this fake BC was photoshopped and it is actually his sister’s birth certificate with data changed to represent it as Obama’s.


43 posted on 08/09/2008 12:32:21 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Ann Archy

It is rather interesting he would take a break right now from campaigning.


44 posted on 08/09/2008 12:32:26 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: FFranco
It's nearly impossible to prove a negative.

How would you prove the following?

I didn't get the package.

He never telephoned me.

I wasn't born in Kenya.

45 posted on 08/09/2008 12:41:50 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: dascallie
I think Obama's birth certificate is a red herring.

I don't think anyone is going to disqualify him for not having one.

In fact I have no idea who is the final arbiter of whether or not a presidential candidate is a natural born U.S. citizen and what the official legal process would be to challenge someone's citizenship in running for president.

46 posted on 08/09/2008 12:50:53 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
In fact I have no idea who is the final arbiter of whether or not a presidential candidate is a natural born U.S. citizen and what the official legal process would be to challenge someone's citizenship in running for president.

I don't think it's been remotely an issue in modern history. And I would doubt that more than 1/3rd of Americans know that you have to be a native-born citizen to be President.

47 posted on 08/09/2008 1:03:17 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Crimson Elephant

I just posted this link, that I happened across, on another thread. It poses a number of possibilities. The post is long, so I won’t paste it here. Check it out:

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=560797&articleId=729220&func=6&channel=News+AOL+Managed&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

Very interesting.


48 posted on 08/09/2008 1:23:15 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: Domandred

You would think that Obama would have had to show a birth certificate before 2007 for something - passport, new job, clearance, etc. And if the point was to refute claims of legitimacy, wouldn’t you want to try to show the original, or at least an earlier official copy?


49 posted on 08/09/2008 1:34:34 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: moonpie57

That may be the most detailed Message Board Post in history. I found the part about “imaginary characters” in his book interesting...I haven’t heard that before.


50 posted on 08/09/2008 1:40:44 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Jack Black

> McCain has no natural born citizenship problem.

Then why was SRES 511 ATS necessary?
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:3:./temp/~c110k8pkLr::
... and is it sufficient (binding on the Electoral
College, and on Congress when they approve the
election results)?

> Both McCain’s parents were US Citizens.

That makes him a citizen, but not necessarily a
“natural born” citizen, which has a vague
definition, which has changed over time.

> McCain’s father was serving in the armed forces
> of the USA at the time of his birth.

In Panama, which may not have been “U.S. soil” for nbC
purposes, and JSM3 was reportedly born off-base,
hence the apparent need for SRES 511.

Ironically, both Clinton and Obama were co-sponsors of
SRES 511. Wonder what McCain gave up for that.

Both presumptive candidates are under eligibility clouds.
BHO2’s cloud is much darker than JSM3’s.


51 posted on 08/09/2008 1:49:45 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Jack Black

Here’s a better link to Senate Res 511 ATS
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:sr511ats.txt.pdf


52 posted on 08/09/2008 1:58:28 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Boundless
There is nothing ironic about this. McCain was sucked in by the rats one more time. This is a head-off for what we are doing now. This is all designed to provide cover for when we actually can prove beyond a doubt that barry souterro is ineligible for potus and as usual McCain bow to the rats every wish.
53 posted on 08/09/2008 2:07:36 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Boundless
Both of McCain's parents were U.S. citizens.

McCain's father was a U.S. military officer ; his mother was a military dependent. Under the UCMJ John McCain was a "natural born citizen". There's no "cloud" over McCain.

Obama, on the other hand, has nothing but bogus birth certificates.

54 posted on 08/09/2008 2:15:13 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: rodguy911
"... question is if hill and bill have the goods why aren't they playing their hand?"

IMHO, it has to look like "somebody else" ( like the RNC or McCain) leaked it with NONE of Hill & Bill's fingerprints anywhere near it ( kinda like Edwards).

Obama Change Birth Certificate

55 posted on 08/09/2008 2:28:08 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Ann Archy

I agree!!!


56 posted on 08/09/2008 2:30:38 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Cyropaedia

> There’s no “cloud” over McCain.

Then let me ask again - if that’s obviously the case, why
was an attempt at formal cloud removal necessary?
(Senate Resolution 511, April 30, 2008)

And is S.Res.511 binding on the Electoral College
and the Congress, should the DEMs decide they don’t
like the outcome of the election?

By the way, it is not my position that McCain is
ineligible. My opinion is that he is.

As for Obama, we have insufficient evidence to
make a determination. The COLB so far presented
is a fake document. Unlike the TANG fakes, there
likely is a real Obama birth cert. What is says
is anyone’s guess.


57 posted on 08/09/2008 2:31:34 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: informavoracious
Maybe his true birth certificate lists JOHN EDWARDS as his Father...

Let's get the National Enquirer to investigate!

58 posted on 08/09/2008 2:40:30 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Boundless
Although this was done ostensibly for McCain, the true beneficiary is supposed to be Obama. Senator Claire McCaskill (D) attempted to "resolve" an issue, where there really wasn't an issue.

Now that they have helped McCain resolve his qualifications, now McCain and the GOP are obligated to help "resolve" Obama's potential "issues" if and when they arise.

As for Obama, we have insufficient evidence to make a determination. The COLB so far presented is a fake document. Unlike the TANG fakes, there likely is a real Obama birth cert. What is says is anyone’s guess.

Many of us here at FR, including myself, realised that Obama's online CoLB's were bogus because they deliberately concealed the area where the all important Certification Number was supposed to be. If you, or anyone else attempted to hand in a CoLB where one was required, and it had the C.N. blacked out, it simply would not be accepted. No way, no how.

When the Obama camp wants to present a CoLB with a Certification Number that is visible, then maybe we can begin to view the issue differently.

59 posted on 08/09/2008 3:13:04 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
BTW, the C.N., or I.D. number, is visible on McCain's Birth Certificate.
60 posted on 08/09/2008 3:15:51 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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