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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: MOgirl

LOL I know!


1,441 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:19 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: Pacothecat

Guess maybe I should try to retract my previous post, right? Sounds like I was dead wrong. I’m glad.


1,442 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:29 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: STARWISE

But please don’t fail to catch the central point of Obama’s pewrspective ... it is a child that he and the DNC favor slaughtering IF the woman doesn’t want “IT”. That is down damn right ghoulish!


1,443 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: shrinkermd; All

I gotta say, that I have been ambivalent, at best, regarding this election.
And, not a McCain supporter at all.
John McCain just may have won me over tonight.
He certainly gave a command performance.
The line drawn in the sand is unmistakable.
The choice between the two candidates - crystal clear.


1,444 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:41 PM PDT by XR7
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To: longtermmemmory

So what is Obama’s ACU rating?

... 8. Do you like that number better?

Get some perspective, man.

McCain’s pro life. Obama is ...?


1,445 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:41 PM PDT by aligncare
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To: maica

CNN: David Brody who interviewed Obama after the forum....Obama was chewing nuts and talking to his advisor and seemed comfortable. Obama told him that it was great to see McCain. He also said that Warren was fair. RE: McCain’s ads he said they are spending alot of money tearing him down “slash and burn tactics”. Also said American people will go to polls knowing the election is not about him but about them and how little they have and basically how miserable they are. As long as we are communicating that to them then we will prevail.” Folks are lying when they say he didn’t support assistance to any child born who survived abortion. It’s offense for people to continue to push this, he says. Misrepresentation of my position he says.


1,446 posted on 08/16/2008 7:18:51 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: longtermmemmory

No, from now on it’s territorial integrity/


1,447 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:02 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: rhema

CNN is trying to do damage control with Obama on CNN.

Obama screwed up and he knows it.

He goes into the convention in crisis if not a meltdown.


1,448 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TonyM

see #1437


1,449 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: rhema

FOX’s Ann Lewis: who is this, the Dems’ Fairness Doctrine centerfold?


1,450 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:25 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: AliVeritas

According to the schedule the forum will be repeated at 11 PM on CSpan...


1,451 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dandelion

Reading the play by play, I must suggest to everyone to watch this video.

http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm

Share it with everyone.


1,452 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:43 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I luuuuv the way you think, m’Lady.


1,453 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: comebacknewt

Same here...exactly what you said!


1,454 posted on 08/16/2008 7:19:53 PM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: They'reGone2000
Never noticed Obama's whining so much before. Should have had a stable male figure in his life or even a strong woman.
1,455 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:06 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: SoCalPol; Guenevere

Well said. I don’t understand those who won’t face reality and support McCain.


1,456 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:12 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: TonyM

That miserable hag makes me sick. She needs to take off the Obama knee pads and admit her guy got his clock cleaned


1,457 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:21 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: maica
CNN approx 9:16 central, after interview of Obama,
suggesting McCain is painting Obama as the Anti-Christ,

put up an example CNN

1,458 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:36 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Guenevere

“However noble their intentions, conservatives who do not vote for John McCain will be morally complicit in what happens to America during an Obama presidency.”

-— Dennis Prage

=====r

“”I am now committed to doing everything I can within my power to get John McCain elected,” Mr. Scarborough said, “because I am 100 percent committed to seeing that Barack Obama is not elected.”


John McCain Is For Me by Marie Jon’

“Sorry America, but we can’t afford an Obama presidency. It would be political and social mayhem having a Democrat House, Senate, Supreme Court and Executive branch. For many decades the United States would be held under the sway of a very unjust, destructive force. Our citizenry would have to deal with the extreme rulings of a Supreme Court gone wild. There would be no more checks and balances.

Liberal judges would change our country’s disposition. Even if Americans were roused from their lethargy and subsequently voted in a Republican president and Congress, it would be too late. They would not be able to neutralize the highest court of the land.

McCain will be a good steward of our recourses. Under his leadership, nuclear power and newly developed oil fields will become realities. There will be many different energy strategies employed to help our nation back on its feet.

The sober, sound minds of our country will understand who is best qualified to lead the greatest nation in the world. Let’s pray there are enough of them. Here, there is no doubt. John McCain is for me.”


(For links to articles, go to my FR homepage)


1,459 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:52 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: mnehrling

CNN: Straight talk express had a full tank of gas tonight”


1,460 posted on 08/16/2008 7:20:52 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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