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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Shortstop7
Gosh, that lady on Fox is one ugly woman.

FOX can come up with a much better panel than they have. I switched to Olympics, they were so bad. Except Bill Sammon, they should keep him. And Krauthammer, keep him, too. But Carl Cameron is annoying as are the libs they have on.

1,521 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:22 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: MHGinTN

Why thank you kind sir...

You are a conservadude yourself with great thoughts

*THUD*

:)


1,522 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Texas Songwriter
Could be. I think the Rats are rubbing the back of their necks thinking they bet on the wrong horse. The rat convention will definitely be popcorn time!
1,523 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:51 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Any day above ground is a good day.)
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To: rhema

Her real claim to fame is that her brother is famous homosexual US Representative, Elmer Fudd/Baba Wawa impersonator and harborer of a male prostitute, Bonnie Fwank.


1,524 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:56 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: Nasher

1,525 posted on 08/16/2008 7:31:47 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Who’s that at Cindy’s 5?


1,526 posted on 08/16/2008 7:31:48 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: STARWISE
She reminds me of a cranky old substitute school teacher. I find it very difficult to watch her... ann lewis
1,527 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:27 PM PDT by backspace (It took me a week to come up with this tag line - please don't laugh at it.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Dang, I want to come down for October.

I can help take care of some of those illegal and terror-connected issues while i’m there.


1,528 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:38 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Sun

Just emailed him with congratulations and the plea for a pro-life, Reaganesque VP selection.


1,529 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:46 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: hole_n_one

Obamas intellect, like many democrats before him is vastly exaggerated which is why he and his handlers are extremely reticent to put Obama on the stage with McCain. Warren did it though and it accrues to McCains benefit bigtime!


1,530 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:04 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: 4yearlurker

1,531 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:22 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: 4yearlurker

1,532 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:32 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Guenevere

Jesse Ventura, Tim Penny, and Shelia Kiscaden ruined the Independence party in Minnesota by taking it moderate


1,533 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:41 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Huckabee is really gifted.


1,534 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:42 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think he may mean the people also who make
their living selling on eBay (that is, until
the Dims try to get their bill thru that requires
federal reporting of all credit, debit and
PayPal revenue .....!)


1,535 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:46 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Do you recognize the woman next to Cindy McCain? It looks like Senator Brownback next to Lindsay Graham. I visited that church a year and a half ago when I was in southern California. Beautifully done, and the message that day was right on the mark.


1,536 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:48 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I'll be leaving now....

1,537 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:52 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“ginsberg, stevens who were the others”

Breyer and Souter


1,538 posted on 08/16/2008 7:34:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: AliVeritas

I can’t keep up on this thread. We just returned from a gathering, so I am afraid that I have missed about 1100 posts.

Has anything happened that wasn’t predictable????


1,539 posted on 08/16/2008 7:34:16 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You may not like Keyes wacky style, but he’s orthodox for sure.


1,540 posted on 08/16/2008 7:34:40 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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