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What has happened to my father's Democrats?

Posted on 09/09/2008 7:15:57 PM PDT by coolbreeze

My father was a Democrat.He worked through the depression(yes,there was work),he went to Harvard,(hauled radiators up and down the dorm stairs for three months,he was a pipe fitter and he hated those snot nosed rich bastids with a passion)he went to war in the South Pacific,came home and started a family.Normal guy...he died in 1984,and I still miss him father would not recognize the modern Democratic Party, let alone vote for any of them. the Democratic Party today is built on the rotting foundation of the Vietnam War protest movement and the Gay Rights Movement,the "Wymyns" movement,and every other "movement" of the so called "oppressed".I do not think that Harry Truman or JFK could even poll 5% in a Democratic Primary today.I. like Zell Miller was "born" a Democrat, but I didn't leave the party, it left me.

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To: Iron Munro; All

Below are a few of the goals from
The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

Video; Obama- Disarm America:
First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons.
To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

“The stunning comment from Democrat Sen. Barack Obama that the United States needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar United States Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force have mysteriously disappeared from published transcripts of his speech.

On July 6th, Obama said, “”We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

In 2007, the U.S. Defense budget was $439 billion. Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force as big and expensive as that?

Answer me this, Obamamessiah, just what are those national security objectives? Who is the “WE” who will set those objectives? How would such a force be used to achieve those objectives — oh, and will its members wear brown shirts?”

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

51 posted on 09/09/2008 8:32:04 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Randy Larsen

Don’t worry about it — I voted the same way as you did in ‘92 and like you, I regret that vote to this day. The difference is, I should have known better.

McCain’s pick of Palin didn’t change my vote, just the reason for my vote.

52 posted on 09/09/2008 8:37:30 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Iron Munro

Yup, far left libs dominate academia all the way through grad school. They also dominate Hollywood and entertainment in general. And...... they not only dominate the MSM, in many cases the MSM acts as an arm of the dem party.

53 posted on 09/09/2008 8:44:06 PM PDT by umgud
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To: coolbreeze

Nice post, and I quite agree. I was raised Republican by my actively “political” side of the family, father and uncle. But my mother was raised Democrat, though she didn’t have a taste for political discussions.

Many times over the years, my friends and I’ve said that if the two you mentioned - Harry S. Truman and JFK - lived today, they’d be considered Conservatives (at least in many ways) and wouldn’t have gotten their party’s nomination.

54 posted on 09/09/2008 8:49:32 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Gabz

My parents were lifelong FDR Democrats. My father was an American citizen born in Europe. Came here in ‘35. Signed up for the Marine Corps on Dec. 8, 1941. Served from ‘42 to ‘46, 5th Marine Corps Division, one mission, Iwo Jima. Recalled to duty for Korea in ‘51.

He always said that FDR was a little dictator and that it was an honor to serve under Truman.

I think JFK was the last democrat they ever voted for. They loved Reagan and despised the Clintons, escpecially Hillary.

55 posted on 09/09/2008 8:51:00 PM PDT by chuknchez
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To: Gabz
"There is not teacher’s union in Virginia and she knows far more about VA and American history than I did about NY and American history when I was in school.

That is very refreshing to hear.

Where I live the Teachers unions dominate and schools have gone from teaching about the Founding Fathers and the great patriots to teaching about little known minority poets and promoting bi and homo sexualism.

At the same time they are concerned about falling grades and graduation rates. Their solution? Spend more money on the same new age curricula.

56 posted on 09/09/2008 8:52:19 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Alaskan landscape is littered with the bodies of those who have crossed Sarah Palin)
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To: Laptop_Ron

I agree! The Dems have just gone WAY OUT there..

57 posted on 09/09/2008 9:03:02 PM PDT by television is just wrong (The Democrats have lost cabin pressure and the oxygen masks have dropped.)
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To: Lucas McCain

“I feel dirty for even ever calling myself a democrat.. that is now a filthy word to me...”

Well, Lucas, there’s hope for you yet :-)))))))


58 posted on 09/09/2008 9:03:05 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: coolbreeze

Read my Tagline, read my home page

59 posted on 09/09/2008 9:08:35 PM PDT by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: coolbreeze
"What has happened to my father's Democrats?"

...pushed out of business and politics by those in charge now. Get an arable place that is away from the cities, and watch the fireworks to come.

60 posted on 09/09/2008 9:16:33 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: coolbreeze

As far as I’m concerned, the transformation of the RAT party into the freak show we see today began with the “Great Society.”

(I’m referring here only to events within my own lifetime.)

61 posted on 09/09/2008 9:21:56 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: coolbreeze

Can you picture any dummycrat saying, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country?”

I mean with a straight face, and mean it.

62 posted on 09/09/2008 9:32:40 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

I see a lot of Democrats who live conservatively yet vote with the liberals. A lot of it has to do with the schools plus the old slogans. I wish they would wake up!

63 posted on 09/09/2008 9:46:41 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Nea Wood
“The Democrats are for the working man.”

My dad still stays this whenever we argue, even though it is obviously no longer true.

64 posted on 09/10/2008 4:05:49 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: coolbreeze; All


Bearing in mind that I’m a conservative from the Goldwater era, here’s

“How I see the Democrat ( and it drives them even battier to call them that... ) Party”:

Once upon a tyme, say prior to 1968, they made a nod at representing the little guy, the union members, and other common folks, but what they have since morphed in to is a gaggle of largely competing special interests ( we used to call ‘em “pressure groups.” ) who band together warily, with the goal of using the might and majesty of the Federal Gooberment to pry money from other groups they dislike.

Not coincidentally, this usually means infringing on said disfavored groups freedoms and rights, as well.

65 posted on 09/10/2008 4:56:05 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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To: Heartland Mom

“Have you never heard the famous observation that, “If a man is a Republican at 20, he has no heart and if he is a Democrat at 40, he has no brain.” Well, I was a Democrat until I was 20 and I have been a Republican since then (I am now 44).”

Yes I have heard that quote numerous times.It’s still BS.
Since I have a few more years on you, I can tell you there was quite a bit of resentment at the time against RINO’s.
That was what Republicans called “Reagan Republicans”.

66 posted on 09/10/2008 7:07:24 PM PDT by sarasmom ( My employment agreement states I am not required to travel north of I10)
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To: coolbreeze

My father like yours was democrat, a union tradesman and a WW2 vet. My Dad died when he was 40, I’m 57. My father and I both shared this common belief. We hate communism and marxism because it destroys the human spirit God gave us all. If my Dad was alive today he’d vote the same as I do. Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro Family, Pro America, Pro Freedom.

67 posted on 09/10/2008 7:13:39 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Mrs. Palin Goes to Washington and the MSM Trembles)
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To: sarasmom
Yes I have heard that quote numerous times.It’s still BS. Since I have a few more years on you, I can tell you there was quite a bit of resentment at the time against RINO’s. That was what Republicans called “Reagan Republicans”.

So, according to your world view, people cannot evolve and, as they learn more about the world through their life experiences, change course? I disagree with that notion because, aside from politics, I can absolutely tell you I am not the same person I was when I was 20 as I am today. I have matured and some of my views have changed. Not morals, but opinions and viewpoints regarding issues and perceptions of people.

I also disagree with your definition of RINOS, since obviously your opinion is that it includes those members to the party that arrived after a set point in time - what, 1980? I view the party much like the parables in the Bible where even those converting to Christianity late in the game enter into heaven - that it doesn't matter when you joined the belief system so much as it matters that you share common beliefs.

As I said, I am a conservative republican, both fiscally and socially. I reserve the label of RINO for those people (like my own Senator, Chuck Hagel), whose only discernible affiliation with the Republican party is the R behind their name.

68 posted on 09/10/2008 7:43:04 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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