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Joe the Plumber target of Arizona (his Drivers License is suspended)
east valley tribune ^ | 10/17/08 | Daniel Newhauser

Posted on 10/17/2008 6:04:32 PM PDT by machogirl

Joe the Plumber's' AZ driver license suspended Comments 6 | Recommend 4 Daniel Newhauser, For the Tribune

A plumbing license is not the only license "Joe the Plumber" is having troubles with.

The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver's license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.

"Joe," whose real name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was referred to more than 20 times by Republican Sen. John McCain in Wednesday night's presidential debate for questioning Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's tax policy.

The man portrayed by McCain to be the typical, hardworking American revealed this week that he actually does not have a plumbing license, and now court records show he should not have a driver's license either, making it potentially even harder for him to get to work.

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

America's new political icon, who owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher's driver's license is still valid in Ohio, according to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and was renewed as recently as May 2005. Ohio law requires a license to be renewed every four years, meaning Wurzelbacher likely obtained an Ohio license in 2001, one year after having his Arizona license suspended.

With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.

The only way "Joe the Plumber" could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.

Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: brownshirtmedia; brownshirts; demsmearmachine; dontquestiontheone; election; enemedia; fascistmedia; joetheplumber; joetheplummer; leftwingconspiracy; marxismonparade; mccain; mediabias; stalinistpress; waronjoe; wurzelbacher
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To: Repeal 16-17

Good. I can’t take the libs.


321 posted on 10/17/2008 8:13:25 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache, and I am Joe the plumber)
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To: Fred Nerks
The Illinois Senator shelled out $375 in January [2007]- two weeks before he officially launched his presidential campaign - to finally pay for 15 outstanding parking tickets and their associated late fees.
322 posted on 10/17/2008 8:16:27 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Iowa Granny

bump


323 posted on 10/17/2008 8:19:35 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: linli36
“Here is an interesting article regarding Obama’s Pakistan trip. Wonder who the mystery man in South America is.

Good Question. The Left has been active in South America for decades and decades. Many names to choose from. They see the possibility of big success in communist revolution but they are up against the Catholic Church and strong tribal feelings toward individual freedom. Frankly, I think most in Central and South America wish the Europeans with their communist/capitalist slug fest would just all go home!

324 posted on 10/17/2008 8:19:37 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: April Lexington
The idea of a “Fourth Estate” or free press protecting the liberty of Americans from tyranny is a quaint and nostalgic fantasy.

But, ironically, thanks to John McCain and his CFR, the obviously corrupt "Forth Estate" are the only ones legally allowed to critically mention a candidate's name within 60 days of an election.

325 posted on 10/17/2008 8:22:45 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Obama-msm- sleight-of-hand


326 posted on 10/17/2008 8:23:11 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache, and I am Joe the plumber)
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To: machogirl

he’s a muslim - they don’t have to live by our rules, only allah tells them what to do...in Australia we have several who call themselves imans, driving around in unregistered, uninsured motor vehicles...

that’s just so islamic, and when they get picked up and fined they complain of being targeted, accuse the police of brutallity. To be muslim is to never be in the wrong.

Obama would probably NEVER have paid the fines - it was just something his handlers took care of when they concocted his life story, totally wiped out his paper trail and sealed all his records.


327 posted on 10/17/2008 8:23:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: panthermom
“It is very scary. Seeing all of this venom and the assault on Joe is unnerving. Some were telling me a while back it would get very ugly and to be prepared, I had a wait and see attitude, now I think they were right.”

If Obama wins with a veto proof congress and super-legislator Supreme Court, they will immediately attack talk radio (you'll need a permit to speak - read McCain Finegold and the SCt. opinion upholding it) and then public forums like Free Republic. The Chinese already control forums like these and Microsoft willingly assists them to keep market share. You will need courage to continue posting within the year if he wins.

328 posted on 10/17/2008 8:24:56 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: GregoryFul

“The idea of a “Fourth Estate” or free press protecting the liberty of Americans from tyranny is a quaint and nostalgic fantasy.
But, ironically, thanks to John McCain and his CFR, the obviously corrupt “Forth Estate” are the only ones legally allowed to critically mention a candidate’s name within 60 days of an election.”

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head!


329 posted on 10/17/2008 8:26:19 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: GregoryFul
But, ironically, thanks to John McCain and his CFR, the obviously corrupt "Forth Estate" are the only ones legally allowed to critically mention a candidate's name within 60 days of an election.

After Federal Elections Commission v. Wisconsin Right to Life, Inc. (2007), that part of McCain-Feingold is effectively dead.

330 posted on 10/17/2008 8:26:41 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I wonder if Michelle would put up with having to wear a burka?


331 posted on 10/17/2008 8:29:02 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache, and I am Joe the plumber)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

lol...


332 posted on 10/17/2008 8:33:22 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: machogirl

IWO, he has the type of minor problems that many of us not-rich-guys have had at one time or another.


333 posted on 10/17/2008 8:34:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: poindexter
Mr. Newhouser's Facebook page:
334 posted on 10/17/2008 8:37:27 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: machogirl

I’ve heard that O was in Pak but do you know when?


335 posted on 10/17/2008 8:41:48 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: bayliving

Whoa there - I’m the negative one on the board? I’ve stated an opinion that is all - I’m voting for John but I am not going to be all happy and gleeful right now - I’ve been very pissed about the way he’s muzzled Sarah along the way and that the campaign has made some blunders. We’ve got less than 3 weeks to turn this around. I am still hopeful


336 posted on 10/17/2008 8:43:18 PM PDT by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Interesting, I wonder how much Wisconsin Right to Life, Inc. had to spend to defend any citizen’s right to free speech against a fowl, unethical, disgusting and uncontrolled federal monstrosity - oh, thanks to the long ensconced senators, “justices,” executives, and representatives of the “people?”


337 posted on 10/17/2008 8:50:02 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: killermosquito

1981 and according to another poster on this thread, in the late 1980’s?

see posts #191 and #240


338 posted on 10/17/2008 8:50:07 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache, and I am Joe the plumber)
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To: GerardKempf

Three weeks for the life of the country. IMHO.


339 posted on 10/17/2008 8:51:11 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache, and I am Joe the plumber)
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To: machogirl
This man is being trashed because he asked simple questions, of a politician. I hope McCain/Palin make the point over and over and over-people need to wake up.

The questions "Joe" asked, are questions "Joe average citizen", would like to ask, and have answered, by our would-be public "servants". (Though, some politicians seem to think of the public as "peasants" who should keep quiet, and not dare question their "betters").

(I especially enjoyed the points "Joe" made about "If his company is taxed more- they will probably deal with the increased cost by laying off employees" and, "if he puts in 10-12 hour days, working hard to get ahead, why should he be penalized, and have his money that he worked so hard for- taken away, and given to those who aren't working/ working as hard as he has? Great questions that deserve answers by the candidates.)

"Joe the plumber" should not be destroyed by the media, or politicians, because he asked questions.
(Sheesh, it's like we've already become a communist country.)

340 posted on 10/17/2008 8:51:42 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for McCain /Palin, Pray for our nation.)
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