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Unanswered questions regarding Obama’s birth certificate
Israpundit ^ | Nov 2/08 | Andy Martin

Posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:45 AM PST by tedbel

(HONOLULU)(November 2, 2008) Here's a little test for you: how many mainstream media have asked to see Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 Certificate of Live Birth ('COLB') in Honolulu? As far as we know, none. Only I have actually followed procedures to get access to the document. I have filed a lawsuit seeking access, and have a court hearing scheduled for November 18th in Honolulu.

(Reminder: in 2004, the Chicago Tribune filed a lawsuit to open a stale divorce file of Obama's opponent; this year, the Tribune has been stone cold silent in the face of Obama's intimidation.)

Fox News has led the latest parade of mainstream disinformation. Major Garrett of Fox said Saturday that Hawai'i officials had determined Obama was born in Hawai'i. Whoa. Garrett's claim was confusing, misleading and totally unsubstantiated. Texas Darling is in general agreement with my analysis.

A Hawai'i COLB is only one piece of paper in a complicated evidentiary inquiry involving Obama. No one outside two people from the Hawai'i Department of Health has apparently viewed the original 1961 document. Neither of them has any forensic or legal experience. Health Director Chiyome Fukino is a medical doctor.

She probably dug out the original COLB because the Attorney General of Hawaii asked her to. Does that make sense? Absolutely it does. After all, his office has to appear at a court hearing in two weeks and respond to my lawsuit. That is the way lawsuits progress. Lawyers (AG) consult clients (DofH) and ask for evidence to prepare for court.

A couple of days ago I asked my readers to participate in explaining the peculiar fact that Barack Obama was supposedly born in Hawai'i, and three weeks later his mother was a college student in Seattle,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; birth; birthcertificate; chiyomefukino; colb; fukino; hawaii; obama; obamagate
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To: tedbel
Didn't Obama go to court to get JIM RYAN's DIVORCE RECORDS UNSEALED????

Un-Sealing Jim Ryan's Divorce Rexcords was OK by all, but not showing his Birth Certificate to see of he was born in ANOTHER COUNTRY is not OK??? We are soooo over.

41 posted on 11/02/2008 5:52:17 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tedbel

Logical questions demand rational thought to process them. That is missing in most of his followers.
Questions I have:

1. Why would a presidential candidate be willing to take the chance of losing an election rather than release his birth certificate.
2. Why would a candidate be willing to let conspiracy theorists imagine what is in the birth certificate rather than just release it.
3. Why would a candidate feel the need to hire criminal defense attorneys to represent him against members of his own party rather than release a birth certificate.
4. Why would he be willing to subject himself to accusations of fraud and forgery by allowing a forged document to be “Fact Checked” and posted on the internet without correcting the poster.
5. What in the world is on that birth certificate that he doesn’t want us to know about. Or is the search for the birth certificate a red flag to keep us from finding what he is really hiding.
6. What was so important that he would suspend his campaign to visit a Grandmother that he wasn’t close to without taking his children with him to say their goodbyes?
7. Why did the Haiwaiin Government officials feel the need to publically verify that there was a birth certificate in such a mysterious way as to leave more questions than answers.

Since he won’t release his birth certificate I will offer my own conspiracy theory.

I don’t know why he is doing this but it must be something that he feels would not only derail his election but would put him in legal jeopardy.

Obama was born Barry Davis Dunham. He has never changed his name legally to Barack Obama. His birth certificate shows his biological father. If the birth certificate was released, we would be focusing on his father and mothers communist ties and we would never trust his ideas.

No legal documentation is available to prove he is currently an American citizen and he never formally changed his name. He was given scholorships based on his Kenyan birth certificate and therefore perpetrated fraud after he was grown.

His communist ties and writings would be discovered if we searched his true birth name.


42 posted on 11/02/2008 6:06:28 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: tedbel; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...

ping


43 posted on 11/02/2008 6:08:45 AM PST by bitt (I AM Sarah Palin.)
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To: tedbel

bookmark


44 posted on 11/02/2008 6:11:38 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: wintertime
They say they have his original birth certificate, but it doesn't say that it's a Hawaiian one. Because if it was, Obama himself could clear this up and allow it to be posted far and wide to end the controversy and the lawsuits. He hasn't, and that indicates to most voters that there is something to hide.

Maybe Gov. Lingle has a surprise for the Electoral College.

45 posted on 11/02/2008 6:12:46 AM PST by pray4liberty (This election will separate the wheat from the tares. Watch, pray, work and VOTE!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Obama’s grandmother living in Mombasa, Kenya said “Obama was born here.” Berg said he has a tape of the grandmother talking about Obama’s birthplace. Wouldn’t the FBI know the truth or did someone stop an investigation?


46 posted on 11/02/2008 6:17:08 AM PST by FreedBird
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To: ODDITHER
He was given scholorships based on his Kenyan birth certificate and therefore perpetrated fraud after he was grown.
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Interesting point.

Do you have any ideas on why Hilliary did not pursue this question of Obama’s citizenship during the primaries? She's a smart Machevelian-type of woman. Why didn't she disqualify him or raise questions about his eligibility?

47 posted on 11/02/2008 6:17:34 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: rodguy911

1. Many of us believe that Obama was born in Mombasa,Kenya

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- there are a lot of Freepers who believe O’s father is Malcolm X.

Can’t have it both ways.


48 posted on 11/02/2008 6:22:37 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Obama - All ego and mouth - Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: FreedBird
Berg said he has a tape of the grandmother talking about Obama’s birthplace.

One, has anyone seen or heard this tape? Seen a transcript? Gotten any idea when and where it was made? Two, Obama's grandmother Sarah doesn't speak English. Who is talking on the tape? If ther is a tape?

Wouldn’t the FBI know the truth or did someone stop an investigation?

Maybe the FBI does know the truth and there never was an investigation?

49 posted on 11/02/2008 6:28:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: tedbel

Major Garrett’s report talking about the birth certificate issue.....as if they’ve reported on it before and people knew what he was talking about. This was the first time I’ve heard it from a news guy on Fox....don’t even know if I’ve heard Hannity talking about it. Then when there is “confirmation” from Hawaii it exists he reports on it like “see I told you so” when we’ve never heard anything about outside internet sites...

I’m less convinced of location of birth being somewhere other than Hawaii...than his father may be listed as blank, unknown, or someone else.


50 posted on 11/02/2008 6:36:15 AM PST by Illinois Rep
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To: rodguy911

I tried to post them on here but neither one would work.sorry.


51 posted on 11/02/2008 6:47:19 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: ODDITHER
Great post and I see nothing wrong with inviting questions about a Manchurian candidate who espouses Communism/Marxism and was a member of the New Socialist party.

Sometimes its near impossible to come up with iron clad proof of everything we suggest may be true.

But to be coerced into submission by those who demand that every I be dotted or every T be crossed when some issues are still in the discussion phase is just wrong.

52 posted on 11/02/2008 6:51:24 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: wintertime

I like what you have to say but things are forgotten way too quickly in this fast moving world. After the fact will continue to erode our Constitution with all of the liberal judges supporting Obama.


53 posted on 11/02/2008 7:44:53 AM PST by jetson
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To: Illinois Rep
don’t even know if I’ve heard Hannity talking about it.
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I am absolutely exasperated with Hannity and Rush Limbaugh! They have both essentially IGNORED it.

54 posted on 11/02/2008 7:55:47 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


55 posted on 11/02/2008 8:06:33 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: syl799

I have no idea what the answers to the specific questions are. Where was Obama born? What was the name of the hospital where he was born? Were his parents married? Where was the divorce obtained? Why doesn’t Obama produce a copy of his original birth certificate? Why doesn’t anyone remember him from Columbia?

But what bothers me is that the MSM has not and will not ask these questions. These answers should have been asked and answered long ago. There are too many blanks in this guy’s background. Would he even get security clearance with all those blanks? And yet, this country is ready to hand him the keys to the White House!

That’s what bothers me. The absolute failure to vet this guy.


56 posted on 11/02/2008 9:18:05 AM PST by Mad-Margaret (PALIN 2008 (and McCain))
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To: Non-Sequitur; bitt; tedbel; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; ...
The certification of a live birth is not equal to to a Birth Cert-IFICATE. Obama's sister has a Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii, even though she was born in Indonesia.

The court did not rule on Obama's citizenship. It ruled that Berg has no civil right to know. He has "no standing" before that court. By brazening this issue out, Obama has placed the burden of proof on those who wish him to prove his bona fides. Of course, most citizens are asked to present their birth certificates at some point in their lives, so it is not entirely unreasonable that Obama be asked to do the same, especially considering his rather bizarre provenance. That he has not done so is at least strange,

A reasonable man would have to allow for the possibility that the COLB on the Obama website was a forgery, and a rather clumsy one at that. If Lawyer Berg were for real, which I do not believe, his case would have been a reasonable one to bring during the earliest primary battles. He claims to be pushing it up to next level.

We"ll see. In the meantime all we know is that Barack Obama may have been born in Kenya to an unmarried American citizen of 17 who did not fulfill the five year residency requirement after age 18 to transfer her citizenship. We can reasonably infer that the adoptee, Barry Soetoro, was probably an Indonesian citizen and traveled on an Indonesian passport. We definitely know he did not re-naturalize as required by law.

One can also wonder out loud if the aliases were registered with the Illinois Bar, or whether the drug use referenced in his autobiographies was mentioned. Obama will directly address none of these issues. And no one can make him do so.

And of course, if Frank Marshall Davis is the biological father, he's an American for sure. Also for sure is that this is the 2d consecutive bastard the Democrats have unloaded on us.

57 posted on 11/02/2008 9:46:20 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Marxist Muslim Cousin Odinga burned Christians in their churches. Obama bought him the gas.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The court ruled that he had no standing to demand it and tossed the case out.
15 posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:40:34 AM by Non-Sequitur

This is what is amazing! A voter has no standing to see if the candidate is qualified for President?

What circle of Hell does that judge reside in.....?


58 posted on 11/02/2008 9:50:59 AM PST by AmericanDave (Obama Nada !!!! ))
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To: ODDITHER

If he has a different legal name, he cannot be legally elected as Barack Obama. He’s not really on the ballot!


59 posted on 11/02/2008 9:57:25 AM PST by AmericanDave (Obama Nada !!!! ))
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To: AmericanDave
A voter has no standing to see if the candidate is qualified for President?

Look up the legal definition of standing then read the judges decision.

60 posted on 11/02/2008 11:20:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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