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Whitman: A prescription for the GOP
northjersey.com ^ | 11.16.08 | Christie Whitman And Robert M. Bostock

Posted on 11/18/2008 9:07:26 PM PST by Coleus

FOUR YEARS AGO, in the week after the 2004 presidential election, we were working furiously to put the finishing touches on the book we co-authored, "It's My Party Too: The Battle for the Heart of the GOP and the Future of America." Our central thesis was simple: The Republican Party had been taken hostage by "social fundamentalists," the people who base their votes on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. Unless the GOP freed itself from their grip, we argued, it would so alienate itself from the broad center of the American electorate that it would become increasingly marginalized and find itself out of power.

At the time, this idea was roundly attacked by many who were convinced that holding on to the "base" at all costs was the way to go. A former speechwriter for President Bush, Matthew Scully, who went on to work for the McCain campaign this year, called the book "airy blather" and said its argument fell somewhere between "insufferable snobbery" and "complete cluelessness." Gary Bauer suggested that the book sounded as if it came from a "Michael Moore radical." National Review said its warnings were, "at best, counterintuitive," and Ann Coulter said the book was "based on conventional wisdom that is now known to be false." What a difference four years makes — and the data show it.

Loss of moderates

While a host of issues was at play in this election, the primary reason John McCain lost was the substantial erosion of support from self-identified moderates compared with four years ago. In 2004, Democratic nominee John Kerry held just a nine-percentage-point margin among moderate voters over President Bush. This year, the spread between Barack Obama and McCain was 21 points among this group. The net difference between the two elections is a deficit of nearly 6.4 million moderate votes for the Republicans in 2008.

In seven of the nine states that switched this year from Republican to Democratic, Obama's vote total exceeded the total won by President Bush four years ago. So even if McCain had equaled the president's numbers from 2004 (and he did not), he still would have lost in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina and Virginia (81 total electoral votes) — and lost the election. McCain didn't lose those states because he failed to hold the base. He lost them because Obama broadened his base. Nor did the Republican ticket lose because "values voters" stayed home. On the contrary, according to exit polls, such voters made up a larger proportion of the electorate this year than in 2004 — 26 percent, up from 23 percent. Extrapolating from those data, McCain actually won more votes from self-identified white evangelical/born-again voters than Bush did four years ago — 1.8 million more. But that was not enough to offset the loss of so many moderates.

Following the conventional wisdom of the past two presidential elections, McCain tried mightily to assuage the Republican Party's social-fundamentalist wing. His selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, whose social views are entirely aligned with that wing, was clearly meant to demonstrate his commitment to that bloc. Yet while his choice did comfort those voters, it made many others uncomfortable. Palin has many attractive qualities as a candidate. Being prepared to become president at a moment's notice was not obviously among them this year. Her selection cost the ticket support among those moderate voters who saw it as a cynical sop to social fundamentalists, reinforcing the impression that they control the party, with the party's consent.

Stockholm syndrome

In the wake of the Democrats' landslide victory, and despite all evidence to the contrary, many in the GOP are arguing that McCain was defeated because the social fundamentalists wouldn't support him. They seem to be suffering from a political strain of Stockholm syndrome. They are identifying with the interests of their political captors and ignoring the views of the larger electorate. This has cost the Republican Party the votes of millions of people who don't find a willingness to acquiesce to hostage-takers a positive trait in potential leaders.

Unless the Republican Party ends its self-imposed captivity to social fundamentalists, it will spend a long time in the political wilderness. On Nov. 4, the American people very clearly rejected the politics of demonization and division. It's long past time for the GOP to do the same. Christie Whitman, who served as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency from 2001 to 2003, is co-chair of the Republican Leadership Council. Robert M. Bostock, a freelance speechwriter, was her co-author for the book "It's My Party Too."


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: chickenneck; rino; whitless
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1 posted on 11/18/2008 9:07:27 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Like anyone is going to take what Whitman says seriously...


2 posted on 11/18/2008 9:09:35 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Coleus

Go join the Rats, you insufferable airhead.


3 posted on 11/18/2008 9:10:47 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Coleus
RINO poop. Crap by any other name still smells the same.
4 posted on 11/18/2008 9:12:00 PM PST by A message
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To: Coleus
National Review said its warnings were, "at best, counterintuitive," and Ann Coulter said the book was "based on conventional wisdom that is now known to be false." What a difference four years makes

Yes, indeedy. We now absolutely, positively know that the purported floodtide of "independent voters" upon which Team McCain based its entire campaign strategy did not, does not and will not ever exist.

E-v-e-r.

Make certain to wave at me from your front row seat at the McCain inaugural ceremonies, Christine.

5 posted on 11/18/2008 9:12:39 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: pissant

So we are supposed to take advice from losers now?


6 posted on 11/18/2008 9:12:48 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Coleus

Get bent, loser.


7 posted on 11/18/2008 9:12:56 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: Coleus

Christie, we’re going to be a conservative party again, if you want to be with the Communists, feel free to go.

We learned in 2008 that a RINO couldn’t defeat a COMMUNIST.


8 posted on 11/18/2008 9:12:57 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Coleus

Simple. Start their own party.


9 posted on 11/18/2008 9:13:18 PM PST by OLDCU
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To: pissant

I can’t really say what I think of this estrogen filled bozo.

On of the biggest GOP disappointments ever.

Whatever Christine says, the opposite is the truth.


10 posted on 11/18/2008 9:13:43 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Coleus

Conservatives don’t have to become DemocRATS to get elected. If Baracko Bama does all the things he is promising to do, “moderates” and a lot of DemocRATS will be running to the GOP during the next election in hopes of sending the Kenyan Manchild packing. That is, if we have another election in this country.


11 posted on 11/18/2008 9:13:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I voted for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: Coleus

WTF does anyone care what a FAILED governor has to say. Its particularly noteworthy that the same media outlets pushing Whitman are the same ones that were celebrating Florio’s tax hikes and McGreevey’s “authenticity.”


12 posted on 11/18/2008 9:14:06 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Coleus

“They are identifying with the interests of their political captors”

You know what, Christie? Shove it up your rear. If you have so little respect for the conservative base that you would refer to us as “captors”, then you can go screw yourself.


13 posted on 11/18/2008 9:15:36 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: Coleus

In a funny way, I feel sorry for this woman. She hasn’t a clue.

But then my better nature takes over & I think... what a friggin goofball.


14 posted on 11/18/2008 9:17:57 PM PST by justkate
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To: worst-case scenario

I’m bothered that she is so tight with Michael Steele.


15 posted on 11/18/2008 9:19:42 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Coleus

The media always gives Christie Todd Whitman and people of her ilk the so called recipe for success.


16 posted on 11/18/2008 9:28:00 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: Coleus
The moderates have well in places where those "religious crazies" aren't a factor, eh Christine? NAME ONE!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 11/18/2008 9:35:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Coleus
Christine Todd Whitman, professional director and sometime politican, who never once has been elected to office with a majority of votes, now presumes to lecture Republicans on how to win elections.

All you need to know about Christie in order to judge her capabilities and limitations: In a private tour of her mansion she identified some Trotsky memorabilia with the charmingly cluess observation, "He was a Russian Count, you know."

18 posted on 11/18/2008 9:36:47 PM PST by FredZarguna (Archimedes, Newton, Leibniz, James and John Bernoulli, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Hermite, Laplace...)
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To: Coleus

Christine Todd Whitman would make a great candidate. For the Green Party. Of Sweden.


19 posted on 11/18/2008 9:37:44 PM PST by exist
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To: worst-case scenario
Like anyone is going to take what Liberal Whitman says seriously...

Beat me to it!

20 posted on 11/18/2008 9:44:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: Coleus
What she means by "social fundamentalists" is "religious fundamentalists". But, being the lost, limp-noodle, RINO that she is, she doesn't have the guts to say so.

She is the Country Club RNC, that stands up for nothingness.

They still don't get it. It's easier to blame the "fundamentalists" than to look in the mirror for the Republicrat Not Can't.

21 posted on 11/18/2008 9:51:17 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Coleus

bump


22 posted on 11/18/2008 9:52:30 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Coleus

My prescription is to kick you and your friends the hell out of the party. You’ll be welcome on the Democrat aisle but you deserve nothing more then a sooted black boot imprint on your backside.


23 posted on 11/18/2008 9:57:04 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Gov. Sarah Palin '08 -- President Sarah Palin '12)
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To: Coleus; NinoFan
Whitless: "They seem to be suffering from a political strain of Stockholm syndrome."

Sounds like projection to me:

Rino bimbo, with communist"Rat, worshipping at the grave of the "father" of modern terrorism.

24 posted on 11/18/2008 9:59:13 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Patrick1

Sure (taking advice from losers)....we get advice from Dems all the TIME!!!! /sarc


25 posted on 11/18/2008 10:04:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: Coleus

I didn’t read one word of her editorial and I know what it says.

Much like my idol Rush says, I know these people like I know every inch of my glorious naked body.

Except mine really is much more glorious than Rush’s. My brain isn’t as great as his but if this were a posedown I’d kick Rush’s butt :-)....

Let me guess:

The thesis is that conservatives should become more like libs and turn the GOP into socialism lite.

Am I right?


26 posted on 11/18/2008 10:04:51 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

That’s because they are a recipe for success from the media’s standpoint. They obliterated the Republican parties they were in charge of. An uncontested ultraleft radical rodent supermajority is their goal in every state and at the federal level. They’ve accomplished the latter and now they’re going state-by-state to accomplish the former.


27 posted on 11/18/2008 10:16:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: worst-case scenario; wmfights

Liberal lite or liberal ultra lite or socialist.

Why should there be a republican party if the republican party is populated by the Whitmans and the Snowes?

They all need the same party.

Conservatives need something different.


28 posted on 11/18/2008 10:53:56 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Coleus

Whitman is an idiot. She sees the facts, and reaches the wrong, opposing conclusion to the truth.

McCain was the moderate’s moderate. HE was the darling of the centrists, the man who was seriously considered (if not actually offered) a reasonable choice for Kerry’s VP slot, who was equally expected to possibly pick Lieberman (the 2000 Democrat VP pick) as his own VP.

And yet, as Whitman points out, moderates voted for the far-left liberal Obama over the centrist McCain.

This proves that “appealing to the moderates” cannot be done by actually picking a moderate. It seems moderates don’t like moderates running the country, and are drawn to candidates who have firm convictions and are well to the left OR right.

If Whitman could explain what it is about McCain that “turned off moderates”, she might actually educate herself to the truth. But it’s a lot easier for her to just assert against the facts that somehow it’s the social conservatives that are at fault.


29 posted on 11/18/2008 11:24:04 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Coleus

The last Republican governor of New Jersey stubbornly holds to the outdated notion that 1+1=2. The new math says that 1-1=3. You just have to think outside the box.


30 posted on 11/19/2008 12:51:21 AM PST by drubyfive
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To: Coleus
The Republican Party had been taken hostage by "social fundamentalists," the people who base their votes on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. Unless the GOP freed itself from their grip, we argued, it would so alienate itself from the broad center of the American electorate that it would become increasingly marginalized and find itself out of power.

This woman is under some strange delusion as McCain's campaign was about reform and ending *earmarks* and evil corrupt Wall Street, and winning in Iraq. I do not recall McCain bringing up abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. And is was not her most hated group 'social fundies' alone that passed that Prop A legislation. She did not do her homework.

AND it was liberals and high minded moderates that selected John McCain in the first place as the Republican nominee..... I think this is an underhanded slap at Sarah which high minded moderates always do. They more than any other group consider themselves above all the rest and they NEVER take responsibility for their own actions. Let her point her accusing finger as she and the rest of her ilk finally slide down their highly esteemed mount of intellectualism to the dark side.

31 posted on 11/19/2008 5:03:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Coleus
This dufus, with a total Republican Majority in the New Jersey Government, taxed and spent us into Democratic control.

Pay no attention to her, let her go back to her Bedminister, NJ (Rockefeller Estate) and take her daughters to the Debutante Ball's like her mother did.

32 posted on 11/19/2008 5:08:00 AM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: Coleus

Christine Todd Whitman, feel free to leave the GOP anytime. Seriously. Any time.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 6:15:49 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Coleus

Whitman is the REASON the GOP is in a mess.

Whitman RINOs are the disease,
Reagan Conservatives (palin) are the cure.


34 posted on 11/19/2008 6:26:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Just mythoughts
I do not recall McCain bringing up abortion, gay rights and stem cell research.

No, but I do remember Barack Obama running like hell away from his own history on abortion. If the leftist position on abortion is the winner, why do democrats all lie about their actual level of support for it?

35 posted on 11/19/2008 6:30:02 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Coleus

Its amusing how moderates out of office want to lecture on political matters.

The good news is this election cycle debunks their claims that elections are won or lost ‘in the middle’.

Nope. Elections are lost when one party, in 2008 the GOP, nominates a guy that couldn’t win a primary when it mattered in 2000 OR this year.


36 posted on 11/19/2008 6:37:45 AM PST by Badeye (If he's a Messiah, how come his brother lives in a mud hut?)
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To: drubyfive

40 states have voted to ban gay marraige. Yet Witless wants us on the wrong side of that vote.


37 posted on 11/19/2008 7:13:08 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Just mythoughts
think this is an underhanded slap at Sarah which high minded moderates always do.

Exactly.

38 posted on 11/19/2008 7:33:55 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: Coleus

So, become democRATs, that’s what you’re saying Christine?

No thanks. It’s statist liberals like you who have ruined the GOP.


39 posted on 11/19/2008 7:45:44 AM PST by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: worst-case scenario
No politician from the northeast should be lecturing the GOP on how to win elections. The party is an absolute joke in that part of the country.
40 posted on 11/19/2008 8:51:46 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Enjoying the final death throes of the dinosaur media.)
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To: xzins; worst-case scenario
Why should there be a republican party if the republican party is populated by the Whitmans and the Snowes?

Until we can attain a majority without them we need them with us. They have to be taught to accept us as the driving force and if that's unacceptable they leave. BTW, where would they go? The Rats don't want them.

41 posted on 11/19/2008 8:56:10 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: Coleus

Quote: “The Republican Party had been taken hostage by “social fundamentalists,” the people who base their votes on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. Unless the GOP freed itself from their grip, we argued, it would so alienate itself from the broad center of the American electorate that it would become increasingly marginalized and find itself out of power.”

Oh, is that why one of the only true Republican victories in this election was the passage of Prop 8 in, of all places, California? Regardless, Christine dear, if you walk down the middle of the road, then sooner or later you will get run over. There is no such thing as a moderate on election day. Come election day a moderate goes into the booth and becomes either a dem or a republican depending on who he or she votes for. The democrats went hard left after the 2004 election yet they have emerged victorious. Who knew, turns out the voters preferred the real brew to the fake stuff (this means you, Christine). Going soft left in response to the democrats going hard left was not the answer.

One more thing to note, are the democrats not also “social fundamentalists?” Euthenasia, abortion on demand, secularism, need I go on. Yet they espouse these ideals with every bit of vigor as anyone on our side espouses our ideals. Why then, under your theory, Christine dear, did the dems win if they have “social fundamentalists?” Christine, go back to the country club where you belong and leave the driving to us conservatives.


42 posted on 11/19/2008 11:20:18 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: pepsi_junkie
No, but I do remember Barack Obama running like hell away from his own history on abortion. If the leftist position on abortion is the winner, why do democrats all lie about their actual level of support for it?

Yes, and had it not been for the engineered economy 'bailout' which McCain fell for he most likely would have won this election.

43 posted on 11/19/2008 2:42:05 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Coleus
Yeah, well, Christie, this last election featured just about the most 'moderate' of candidates,and he STILL couldn't get elected.

One thing the 'moderates' seem to forget is that conservatives will almost always support the moderate candidate, even if they don't like him or her, in order to thwart the Democrats. It seems though the moderates don't care to return the favor, and will even abandon the moderate candidate, as we saw with Colin Powell, and others in this last election.

So, who exactly is BETTER for the Republican Party's chances, in any given election, Christie, the 'social fundamentalists', or the 'social liberals'?

44 posted on 11/19/2008 3:06:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: TheEaglehasLanded; fieldmarshaldj; goldstategop

She barley beat the hated tax-hiker Florio and Jim “Mark Foley” McSveevey then a pissant Mayor. Both races should have been beatdowns by the GOP.

No one should take her advice unless they want continued rat domination.

# 1997 Race for Governor: Christine Todd Whitman (R) (inc.), 47% - James McGreevey (D), 46%
# 1993 Race for Governor: Christine Todd Whitman (R), 49% - James Florio (D) (inc.), 48%
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# 1990 Race for U.S. Senate: Bill Bradley (D) (inc.), 50% - Christine Todd Whitman (R), 47%

She never even got a majority. What a joke! What does she know about electoral success?


45 posted on 11/19/2008 3:38:46 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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