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How real are you?
Royal Institute of Philosophy ^ | Mary Midgley

Posted on 12/26/2008 5:36:50 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

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You, dear reader, may be a cobbled, emergent, semi-illusion, or so the People of Science tell us. But then, they too may be cobbled, emergent, semi-illusions.

Click here to learn more about the pernicious effects of Darwinism on science and society

1 posted on 12/26/2008 5:36:50 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

When I hear atheists say stuff like this, I think, “So what makes us any better than say a roach? We’re just a collection of atoms joined together by chance, and so is a roach.”


2 posted on 12/26/2008 5:40:20 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Richard Dawkins is an educated idiot.


3 posted on 12/26/2008 5:40:41 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: valkyry1; Fichori; tpanther; Texas Songwriter; TCH; Cvengr
Are you real? ping.

"The best reason for a revival of philosophy is that unless a man has a philosophy certain horrible things will happen to him... "

G.K. Chesterton


4 posted on 12/26/2008 5:40:45 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Some people have waaaayyyy too much time on their hands.
5 posted on 12/26/2008 5:49:13 AM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Imbibo ergo sum.

“I drink, therefore I am.”

Also...

Veni, Vidi, Vino.

“I came, I saw, I drank.”


6 posted on 12/26/2008 5:49:32 AM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: vladimir998

Actually, Dawkins’ problem is that he is not educated in what he professes to discuss. Any first-year philosophy grad student could take his arguments apart.....just as Socrates took care of Thrasymachus in Book I.


7 posted on 12/26/2008 5:52:52 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I think Dawkins is trying to figure out how he came to be where he is.


8 posted on 12/26/2008 5:53:05 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Really? When the heart stops pumping blood, oxygen is not longer to deliver to those “cobbled together, disconnected” cells and everything in the body dies. If you want to experience reality, stop paying your bills. Tell me how those “illusitory” effects work out for you.

Just because simple organisms for complex systems, that does not make those complex systems illusions. Educated idiots indeed.


9 posted on 12/26/2008 5:54:58 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Pablo64
Some people have waaaayyyy too much time on their hands.

Actually I am glad that some people take the time to address (or at least point out) the weird philosophical poisons that professors disseminate for public consumption.

10 posted on 12/26/2008 5:54:59 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I am so pissed off right now.


11 posted on 12/26/2008 5:58:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (Illegal Zombies: Just Eating the Brains that Ordinary Americans Won't Eat)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Are you quite real?

I have debated this very issue many times with my bellybutton and we have never even come close to a decision. I refuse to discuss it any more.....

12 posted on 12/26/2008 5:58:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Today is just a little more special than yesterday.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I agree. I was referring to the idiot “philosophers”, not those of us pointing and laughing.


13 posted on 12/26/2008 6:02:14 AM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: shibumi

“To be, or not....” *ping*


14 posted on 12/26/2008 6:05:14 AM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I drink.

Therefore, I am.

15 posted on 12/26/2008 6:08:04 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Lazamataz

Are you for real?


16 posted on 12/26/2008 6:08:51 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Oh, God....


17 posted on 12/26/2008 6:11:15 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Sometimes I think that Dawkins is operating at the level of an apparently smart college freshman -- after encountering marijuana for the first time. "Whoooaaa! What if, like, none of this is reaaalll?"

Really smart people move beyond this type of thought in short order. Dawkins, however, has made a career out of such drivel. Panspermia is a case in point.

18 posted on 12/26/2008 6:12:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Let us take this question to a level that is more important for humanity: Where is your reality?

Is your “reality” inside your mind, in a world of your own making, where reality is plastic and only pleasant facts are allowed in? A world where truth is what you say it is, where only the rules you like at the moment apply and where only good intentions determine outcomes? A world where the things of the outside world are available to be selected or rejected in making up your present reality.

Or is your “reality” outside of your mind, where you work to keep your understanding of right and wrong in harmony with timeless laws and principles. Where facts do matter and once established, cannot be denied no matter how convenient that would be.


19 posted on 12/26/2008 6:13:39 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Life is but a dream.
Sh-boom!


20 posted on 12/26/2008 6:15:38 AM PST by Graymatter
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