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OBESITY BUG YOU CAN CATCH
dailyexpress.co.uk ^ | January 26,2009 | Jo Willey

Posted on 01/25/2009 6:08:18 PM PST by neverdem


Obesity is a major problem in Britain

OBESITY can be “caught” as easily as a common cold from other people’s coughs, sneezes and dirty hands, scientists will claim today.

Researchers believe that an airborne “adenovirus” germ could be causing the fat plague that is blighting Britain and other countries.

As many as one in three obese people may have become overweight after falling victim to the highly infectious cold-like virus, known as AD-36.

It is known to cause coughs, sore throats, diarrhoea and conjunctivitis but has now also been found to make fat cells multiply, leading to weight gain.

The shocking discovery will add to evidence that Britain’s obesity epidemic is not simply down to an unhealthy diet or lack of exercise.

Research suggests a third of UK adults will be grossly overweight within three years, with Britain even predicted to overtake the US as the most obese nation in the world.

The problem already causes 9,000 premature deaths in the UK a year and costs the NHS £1billion.

Many experts already believe that genes can make some people more susceptible to weight gain and now it seems that infections could also hold the key.

Studies have shown that chickens and mice infected with AD-36 put on weight quicker than uninfected animals, even when they were not given extra food. It has also been found to cause huge weight gain in monkeys.

Now studies on humans show that 33 per cent of obese adults had contracted AD-36 at some point in their lives, compared with only 11 per cent of lean men and women.

Professor Nikhil Dhurandhar, of Pennington Biomedical Research Centre in Louisiana, US, who led the research, said AD-36 continued to add weight gain long after those infected had seemingly recovered.

His studies indicated that the virus lingers for up to three months, during which time it multiplies fat and is contagious to others.

Dr Dhurandhar, who will make the extraordinary claims on BBC2’s Horizon tonight, said: “We now know that this virus goes to the lungs and spreads to various organs such as the liver, kidney, brain and fat tissue.

“When it goes to fat tissue it replicates, making more copies of itself and in the process increases the number of new fat cells, which may explain why people get fat when they are infected with this virus.” The findings were welcomed by some medical experts, although others sounded a note of caution.

Dr Shahrad Taheri, clinical director for obesity at the Birmingham Heartlands Hospital, said: “Most people believe obesity is caused by environmental factors.

“But there is a lot of information about how things like the furring up of arteries could be linked to infections. It is not beyond reason to think about various different factors, including infections, adding into the mix about what causes obesity.”

Tony Barnett, professor of medicine at the University of Birmingham, said: “These associations may give some clues but they detract from the basic message that we all need to take more exercise and eat a bit less.

“This kind of research needs to go on but we have to be cautious.”

Dr Colin Waine, chairman of the National Obesity Forum, said: “We must acknowledge it is a contribution to the research but it doesn’t alter the management of obesity.”

The documentary also reveals research which claims to explain why those on diets feel permanently hungry, even when overweight.

A US study found that people have a “natural body weight” and respond to losing a few pounds in the same way as if they were starving.

The findings suggest that overweight people who diet will always suffer hunger pangs, even if they become lean and healthy.

• Horizon: Why Are Thin People Not Fat? is on BBC2 at 9pm tonight.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: ad36; adenovirus; health; muffintop; obesity

1 posted on 01/25/2009 6:08:18 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Are Twinkies the carrier/host?


2 posted on 01/25/2009 6:12:20 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: neverdem

uhhh...OK?


3 posted on 01/25/2009 6:13:46 PM PST by vandy
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To: neverdem

I know for a fact that smoking kills the cold-like virus.

The government should subsidize smoking.


4 posted on 01/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: vandy

Sitting in front of a TV snacking all day has nothing to do with weight gain.


5 posted on 01/25/2009 6:16:52 PM PST by kempo
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To: neverdem
It's mostly eating more calories than you burn.

That being said, sometime during my growth spurt during adolescence, I stopped being able to eat whatever I wanted and I started gaining weight quickly. I've had weight issues ever since. I'm currently the thinnest I've ever been, but it takes a lot of exercise (hour plus each day), and I have to stay hungry most of the time. It's worth it.

But if you told me that I caught a cold with some metabolism effect at 13, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
6 posted on 01/25/2009 6:17:38 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Yeah its called Mcdonalds.


7 posted on 01/25/2009 6:18:11 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: neverdem

There’s some of that wishful thinking, it ain’t my fault science we have grown so fond of!!


8 posted on 01/25/2009 6:18:18 PM PST by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: mysterio
Studies have shown that chickens and mice infected with AD-36 put on weight quicker than uninfected animals, even when they were not given extra food.

Maybe not . . .

9 posted on 01/25/2009 6:21:14 PM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: mysterio
My grandparents made a summer visit to our home for many years. In 1967 I was measured at 4 ft 9 inches upon their visit. A year later, I was 6 feet 3/8 inches. My weight was 112 lbs. The growth spurt pushed me from size 6D shoes to 10EE and gave my parents fits trying to keep me in clothing that fit. By the end of 7th grade, I had "bulked up" to 135 lbs. Upon gradation from high school at age 16, I was 155 lbs. During the summer after high school, I managed to get to 180 lbs. That was bad because I was competing in judo and there were weight classes. I was matched against a 250 lb opponent because there was nobody else in a closer weight range. Thankfully I was faster and won the match before the extra weight became a problem. I had to work out 7 days a week for 3 hours per day to pare down to 162 lbs. That was a far more competitive weight.

In 1985 I had cancer. The treatments made it damn hard to keep weight off. If I don't work out every day and watch me food intake, it is very easy to gain weight and living hell to burn it off. Atkins is just about the only thing that works.

A cold virus may be to blame for sudden, unexplained switches from a normal weight to packing on lbs. It's happened a few times with no clear reason. It would be nice to have a better handle on the mechanism and a means to control it.

10 posted on 01/25/2009 6:32:00 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

It was all great fun when it was the yanks getting fat.


11 posted on 01/25/2009 6:35:24 PM PST by skeeter
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To: donna
I don't doubt it. I can draw a line probably at the month where weight started to be an issue for me. Early spring 1988. I was 13. Just started bulking up, and I was in a growth spurt at the time. The time in life when you can sit around all day eating hamburger and hot dogs and be skinny as a rail. Not me.

I can tell you one thing, though. I'm not letting myself get heavy ever again. My fat period in my 20s could have killed me. I'm probably too thin now. Good.
12 posted on 01/25/2009 6:35:47 PM PST by mysterio
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To: neverdem

I don’t buy this for one second..


13 posted on 01/25/2009 6:41:35 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: mysterio

I’m curious - why are you hungry all the time? I’ve had weight issues off and on in my life, and most of them came from trying to follow a diet that didn’t suit me.
When I found a diet plan that did, I stopped having weight problems. I didn’t do well with a lot of the diet plans that are so popular - Atkins, South Beach, etc. do not suit me at all.
How did you decide on the diet plan that you follow?


14 posted on 01/25/2009 6:43:02 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout
I’m curious - why are you hungry all the time?

My metabolism is pretty efficient. I seem to get hungry again pretty quickly after a meal. I always blamed it on my northern European heritage (feast and famine in northern climates), but if you told me a virus I got when I was 13 had something to do with it, I wouldn't be surprised.

How did you decide on the diet plan that you follow?

I picked low fat/limited calories. I give myself a fatty dinner most Saturdays. Other than that, it's a lot of healthy eating and controlled, timed snacks.

When on my diet, I limited my calories to the amount that they give bariatric surgery patients. Took less than a year to drop 100 pounds. I gained 20 of that back in '07, and lost 30 of the 20 in '08. Have been on maintenance since June and quit smoking.

The only thing that has kept it off is daily exercise, healthy food, and weighing myself each morning. Most people say not to do that, but it has saved me from gaining for a while now.

I would pick being hungry most of the time over being overweight. I can always have a quick cup of decaf when I'm hungry.
15 posted on 01/25/2009 7:00:23 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Myrddin

I am absolutely certain my entire metabolism changed when I contracted pneumonia.

I have to deal with it, but no question, things changed.


16 posted on 01/25/2009 7:02:35 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: Marie2
I've had 7 cases of pneumonia after contracting Valley Fever from my days riding motorcycles in the canyons of southern California. The advent of the pneumonia vaccination halted the annual visitation of pneumonia. I haven't had a recurrence since early Dec 1991.

It's possible that your pneumonia was initiated by a cold from the suspect virus. Mine started with flu that morphed into a secondary bacterial infection. It certainly messes with your lung capacity.

17 posted on 01/25/2009 7:08:31 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: donna
I know for a fact that smoking kills the cold-like virus.

What do I have to smoke? My cold has me so miserable I'm ready to try anything.

18 posted on 01/25/2009 7:15:57 PM PST by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: neverdem

Nah it’s all cause they eat too much - that’s the best and easiest way to become a fat b#stard and boy can the Brits eat and most of it they call ‘stodgy’ type food!

Mel


19 posted on 01/25/2009 7:26:53 PM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: mysterio

Good for you! I’ve never had 100 pounds to lose - I was once 40 pounds overweight, and it took me many months of different diet plans to figure out how to fix that. We’re all different, I think, in what we can eat. I can’t feel good on a very low fat diet - just adding a slice of whole fat cheese or a tablespoon of ultra rich ice cream to a meal makes a big difference to me. And if I’m hungry an hour after a meal, I eat something - carrot sticks or grapes usually. If your decaf satisfies, that’s the same thing.

But one thing I have to say - none of us should be “on a diet”. We should all have an eating plan that we will stay with for the rest of our lives. You’re not done until you know you will eat that way, happily, forever.


20 posted on 01/25/2009 7:32:44 PM PST by speekinout
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To: neverdem
Here is a hi-res scanning electron microscope picture of the "adenovirus" AD-36.


21 posted on 01/25/2009 7:58:40 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: neverdem; Drumbo; Slings and Arrows

Now look-a here, if’n I believed this crap, I’d be sneezin like a Guinness contestant on all them skinny hoes, know whut Ahm sayin?


22 posted on 01/25/2009 7:59:38 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: speekinout
We should all have an eating plan that we will stay with for the rest of our lives. You’re not done until you know you will eat that way, happily, forever.

Yes. This is exactly correct.
23 posted on 01/25/2009 8:10:04 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; donna; Myrddin; melsec; ...
micro, stem cell & diabetes ping

Ebola may have passed from a pig to a human

This is the 4th thread in 3 years to describe the tendency of the AD-36 virus to cause obesity. Click on the keyword, ad36, and find Coleus' thread.

Earlier this year, researchers in Dhurandhar's lab found that exposure to the virus actually caused adult human stem cells to turn into fat-storing cells.

24 posted on 01/25/2009 8:15:32 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Titan Magroyne; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
Now look-a here, if’n I believed this crap, I’d be sneezin like a Guinness contestant on all them skinny hoes, know whut Ahm sayin?

Exactly. I think I caught that virus at Waffle House.


25 posted on 01/25/2009 8:36:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (This fiasco brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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To: neverdem
It is known to cause coughs, sore throats, diarrhoea and conjunctivitis but has now also been found to make fat cells multiply, leading to weight gain.

I heard about this over 10 years ago in grad school. Even if fat cells multiply, you still can't get any fatter than the amount of fat represented by the energy intake in excess of energy expenditure. Of course a complicating factor could be that the excess fat cells could add to hunger signals leading to more eating than is necessary for energy homeostasis.
26 posted on 01/25/2009 8:44:39 PM PST by aruanan
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To: neverdem

I was quite impressed by your recent post of the “Atkins” diet and Type II diabetes. It seems that they have truly found a “cure”.

Along these lines, I read with great interest “Good Calories, Bad Calories” by Gary Taube. The inescapable truth is that carbs, plain and simple, are the source of our problem, though HFCS is certainly a terrible food, as carbs go.

Looking for a magic bullet like the cold virus takes away the blame that we owe ourselves for the totally bankrupt nutritional advice that the government has served us for the past 50 years. Anybody who is interested in the history of suecessful weight loss should read the portions of the Taube book about “reducing diets.” These have been around for years, have always been successful, but fly in the face of conventional nutritional thinking.

I’ll take a pass on the adeno virus “cure”.


27 posted on 01/25/2009 8:50:40 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Slings and Arrows

What about all those casseroles and homemade desserts that women keep leaving at your front door? Wonder if the virus is foodborne, as well?


28 posted on 01/25/2009 8:57:34 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Slings and Arrows

Waffle House will do it every time, Slings and Arrows. LOL.


29 posted on 01/25/2009 8:58:25 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Marie2
Now that you mention it I had pneumonia, the hospital infection kind, after surgery. I had always been thin, but after that I started gaining weight...never had to worry about it before, but afterward a different story. I had never made the connection until reading this thread. Well, whether or not it's the reason I think I shall adopt it :^)
30 posted on 01/25/2009 9:03:19 PM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: pepperdog

Wow. I remember my turning point too. Freshman in H.S. thin and then half way through my sophomore year I had appendicitis, emergency surgery, and fought my weight ever since.


31 posted on 01/25/2009 9:53:12 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: kempo

That must explain the few extra pounds I’ve put on recently. And all this time I thought it was the ‘junk’ I’ve been eating more than normal this winter. Guess it’s not my fault, good! I’ll get some more Doritos at the store tomorrow, maybe some hoho’s too : )


32 posted on 01/25/2009 10:55:29 PM PST by HollyB
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To: neverdem
Photobucket take 2 of these at bed time.....Trust me... I'm a Doctor.
33 posted on 01/25/2009 11:19:51 PM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: neverdem
His studies indicated that the virus lingers for up to three months, during which time it multiplies fat and is contagious to others.

3 months of swelling fat cells translates to a lifetime of obesity? Does it work retroactively? Sounds fishy to me.

34 posted on 01/25/2009 11:26:19 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: LucyT

The neighborhood cats must be eating them.


35 posted on 01/26/2009 12:57:57 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (This fiasco brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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To: GOP_Lady

I like my hash browns Rachel Corrie style: Scattered, smothered, and covered.


36 posted on 01/26/2009 12:59:21 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (This fiasco brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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To: neverdem

To all those who have ever scorned a fat person and insisted that they must be fat just because they eat like a pig...well, in the immortal words of Sam Kinnison, “Bite me.”


37 posted on 01/26/2009 2:37:57 AM PST by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks, BFL.


38 posted on 01/26/2009 4:15:24 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

Stay away from fat people, they are contagious !!!!!. ;0)


39 posted on 01/26/2009 5:09:23 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: neverdem

Is this serius?


40 posted on 01/26/2009 5:56:57 AM PST by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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To: mysterio; speekinout
speekinout: "We should all have an eating plan that we will stay with for the rest of our lives. You’re not done until you know you will eat that way, happily, forever."

mysterio: Yes. This is exactly correct.

Yes, and the reason is that going off a diet puts your eating habits back where they made you gain so much weight in the first place. The most important thing is to find a diet that you can live with forever and stick to it always. Low-fat, high-carb diets make many people hungrier than low-carb, but low-carb takes some getting used to. It's worth the effort though.

41 posted on 01/26/2009 6:22:56 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I think we’re all different. I do best on low fat, high carb diet, but I know other people who do better on low carbs.
It might take some experimenting to find out which is best, but it is worth the effort. It really only took me a few weeks with each plan to decide which was the best for me.


42 posted on 01/26/2009 7:04:20 PM PST by speekinout
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To: neverdem

If obesity (at least in some cases) has a viral cause, would anti-viral strategies help? Or is it one of those things where it’s a viral hit-and-run, where the virus causes an effect that continues regardless of the continued presence/activation of the virus?


43 posted on 01/29/2009 7:25:47 AM PST by fightinJAG (Good riddance, UAW.)
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