Posted on 02/21/2009 6:52:21 AM PST by Loyalist
If Ottawa had any guts, they'd expel the Saudi ambassador and give the Saudis two choices: strip their miscreant diplomats of immunity and turn them over to face charges in Canada, or expel them all and suspend diplomatic relations until the Saudis quit playing games and agree to sign an extradition treaty.
I have no doubt that diplomats from other Muslim countries are showing the same contempt for the justice system in other Western countries as well, including the USA.
I’ve known Saudis living in the U.S. They run to the casinos and strip joints. They drink to excess and hire hookers if they can find them. They have no self-control whatsoever.
They come from a country where it is the government’s job to protect you from temptation, rather than your job to resist it. When they have an opportunity in the West to gamble, drink, and have sex, they jump at it.
What makes me think that you are correct? The muslim countries have the lowest rate of rape and sexual abuse cases against women in the world. (stoning victims that report the abuse might be the answer to that one)
Could it be that muslim men believe that ravaging women is their allah given right? After all, what is sharia law other than promoting mohammeds way of life?
ALLAH-FUBAR!
3 Month English course my @rse. More like a 3 month rapefest, in the “decadent west”. Be hard to tell whether you had your eye on a good thing, looking at the way they keep their women out there. Theyre not even allowed to drive cars!
Sexuality of muslim men (this is from first hand observations):
1. “Men and boys are for pleasure and women are for (male) babies.”
2. It is not homosexual activity if you are the “pitcher” or the one “penetrating.”
3. Non-muslim women are all whores and prostitutes
4. Sex with non-muslim women doesn’t count (as cheating) because they are infidels
5. If a muslim women is raped, it is her fault (she should have fought back harder)
6. It is OK to marry 13 year olds and have up to 4 wives. It is OK to divorce a wife once she gets too old and add a younger bride to your “stable”
7. It is OK to “marry” a muslim woman, have sex with her and them divorce her - it is called a “pleasure marriage” or temporary marriage (or sigha). The local Mullah gets a cut of the cost of the marriage. He actually is the pimp.
This is their mindset. The quicker you understand this the better you will comprehend their bizarre behavior...
And here’s the “allah” loophole:
Qur’an 24:34 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”
Owning females slaves is ok, and forcing them into prostitution is ok. Besides, having sex with a slave is always ok.
Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”
And they claim the Western World is morally bankrupt? Up to 4 wives each, plus unlimited concubines, and the occasional sex slave...who needs the internet?
But we were told by Bush it is a great religion on TV that can’t be wrong can it?
The Saudi government or some variation of it.
Recently two college administrators from Maine flew to Saudi Arabia to discuss a joint venture. The entire tab was picked up by their government or some related entity.
No coincidence as the Muslim Somali takeover of Lewiston continues at full speed.
No coincidence as the Muslim Somali takeover of Lewiston continues at full speed.
I am a Saudi doctor currently training in Ontario. Currently there is a large number of Saudi trainees working and residing along with their families in various provinces. We are very fortunate to be enrolled in the best Canadian Universities and working at world-class institutes. We are also honored to render our services to the Canadian health system at no cost to the Canadian public. This country and its people have embraced us and we can’t thank you enough for hosting us.
However, I wish to express how disgraced I am by the acts of felony committed by any fellow Saudi citizen while being hosted by a great country like Canada. I, along with my fellows denounce even the slightest misdemeanors that go against the laws and norms of this society. I hope that, if proven guilty, this young man faces the toughest punishment. I wish to reaffirm our commitment to respect the Canadian society and its laws, and to facilitate the strides of progress in this great nation.
Reply to “2banana”: What you’ve quoted about sexuality of muslim men is completely false. All the points you’ve listed and the verses you’ve quoted are unfortunately baseless and have been circulating on many websites to ridicule Islam.
Also, the presumed role of the Saudi Embassy in helping Al-Saba escape Canada was never proven. It is just a theory. If it was ever established to be a fact, the Saudi ambassador would definitely have been summoned to the Canadian foreign affairs office and deeply strained the Saudi-Canadian relations.
Uh huh.
Signup date: Feb 21 2001.
As much as I am perplexed by the nature of the act of this Saudi student, I am equally disappointed by the nature of replies to the subject by (presumably) Canadian readers. This only reflects the degree of ignorance, short sightedness, and preset mentalities against people from the Muslim world. The fact that the Saudi government does not have a perfect screening procedure for the young students it sponsors to train in North America is a noticeable problem. On the other hand, I happen to work with a lot of well trained, civil, and highly qualified Saudi citizens that represent their country (and that part of the world) in a great way. As a Canadian, I am so ashamed of the remarks that I read and truly hope that they do not represent a majority opinion.
The incident that happened needs to be dealt with on individual bases. It is a rare anomaly and not the norm. The endless reports of rape and murder in the North American media are never attributed to the North American way of living, faith(s), or lack of faith for that matter. This incident is no exception.
I’m not sure what kind of doctor you are, but being “perplexed” by rape by a 19 year old single male is a bit odd. Perhaps a language problem.
As for the reports of rape and murder by North Americans in the North American media, we express the same level of disapproval and frequently attribute it to the way things are “these days.”
Unfortunately, we rarely hear of disapproval of “honor” killings by those in the Muslim world. And a Muslim pregnant rape victim is to receive 100 lashes during her jail sentence for having been too trusting and getting raped. When we don’t hear of members of the Muslim world speaking out against these things, it is reasonable to presume acceptance.
Keep in mind that I posted about the signup date of the individual I posted to. Nothing else, yet your post was addressed to me as if I were accountable for all the other posters on this thread. We have a phrase “Pot calling the kettle black.” In this case you have the wrong kettle.
Signup date for Dr. M Feb 22, 2009
I noticed a typo in my post re AliP: signup date Feb 21, 2009 not 2001
Yes, thanks.
I finally noticed and corrected it in post 17.
any way i think we should wait tell we know all the details of the case before we judge, and even if he is guilty he just represent him self and he didn't represent all the Muslims.
I would like to mention that there is a very good Saudi figures in Canada and they live her for ever with no problems.
i think we should be fair
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