Glenn Beck's 'War Room' - Worst-Case Scenario No. 3

FoxNews.com ^ | February 20, 2009 | Glenn Beck

[Perseverando]

This is an 8 minute 19 second video with a transcript.

Title: Worst-Case Scenario No. 3

Published: Fri, 20 Feb 2009

Description: Beck's 'War Room' experts imagine what would happen if widespread civil unrest broke out at home

" Tonight it's special it's the war room where war gaming different scenarios we -- not predicting that these things will happen if fact I'm I think everybody on the set is he's praying that these things don't happen but it's interesting we were talking in the middle of the break. The most the people on the set -- for joining us via satellite. Really think these are light scenarios these of the bed time stories is Bob Baer said just a minute ago. We're just asking what would we do if they did happen a third scenario. Anger and discontent at home the year is -- fourteen many Americans are feeling disenfranchised people are isolated from the political leaders have been betrayed over and over and over again Internet connects like minded people and the -- a fact. A rise in individual militias. Would -- now is Michael Sawyer he is the former head of the CIA bin Laden unit. And back against him -- retired command sergeant major in the US army quickly let me just before we go let me go to -- Michael and that -- here on. -- Stephen Steve give maybe I'm sorry I don't have things. I'm Stephen give me the a real quick how much your taxes in our scenario of Tony fourteen. To pay for all the stuff that we're doing how much attack."

[teenyelliott]

If we are ruined as a super power, I think they no longer have a reason to come after us. The reason they have been a threat is because we were their main obstacle.

I'm not worried about China and Russia. If we do collapse, then they have what they want without spending one dime or losing one life.

My main concern is not foreigners, but those Americans who will go into the mob mentality because they have nothing.

[teenyelliott]

I don't see your connection. Koresh was facing the government, not a bunch of whiny assed libs.

Now, if we're talking about the people vs. the military, then we have a problem.

Also, the scenarios are different. We are talking mass revolt, not one loon "prophet" and his followers.

[hiredhand]

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[Man from Oz]

MarkeyD,

I see a country today that takes for granted the food production capabilities of @ 2% of the population who are actively engaged in the daily production of grain, meat and milk.

The concept of food procurement for the vast majority of citizens is a simple trip to the convenience/grocery store.

I see many of the issues we deal with in society as a result of the reduced numbers of people who are directly/indirectly involved with production agriculture. For example, involvement in the area of animal agriculture forces one to deal daily with the realities of life and death with their herd or flock.

Our city cousins (sorry, I hate to generalize) over time, have become immune to these realities and view everything with respect to animals through the eyes of a Walt Disney movie. Nobody wants to visualize a piece of meat as once being a part of a living animal. Heck, how many people today would know how to field dress a rabbit if they had to??

In my opinion, the loss of values routinely learned in an agricultural setting (hard work, personal responsibility AND consequences) are largely responsible for the fine mess this country is in today.

I have asked myself (with increasing frequency) what would happen if there was limited or no supplies of meat/milk?

Obviously, this outcome would not be good. However, as I alluded in my earlier post, I have no crystal vision. But, I am preparing (just in case) by stocking up with bare essential foodstuffs (salt, rice and beans) and firearm related items.

Sorry for this rambling post. I have strong feelings on this issue.

MFO

[snowrip]

Specifically, gas-operated, air-cooled, semi-automatic weapons in 5.56, 308, ad 7.62 caliber. I own several. They are not military assault weapons, but otherwise they ARE certainly assault weapons in every sense of the word. Make no mistake: my M4-platform carbine was not originally designed with deer hunting in mind.

That being said, the Second Amendment wasn’t about guaranteeing our rights to own weapons to hunt with, it was about guaranteeing our right to own any weapon that could be used to defend ourselves against tyranny.

[snowrip]

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[snowrip]

+1 on post 64 and 65.

[xmission]

I hope you are right.

[Beagle8U]

“A bad idea. Ammunition is 50% to 100% more expensive for nearly any rifle caliber on GB. Case in point: I recently ordered .308 and 5.56 (M193 and M855) from Widener's for about half what the same ammunition was going for on GB.com.”

Huh? Gun broker is just a website that allows you to see what is offered by thousands of different sellers, and bid the price you are willing to pay.

They set no prices on anything, and you have to keep checking in to find the good deals as the come in.

[pierrem15]

Thanks, but it's kind of sad to think that where we are now is really much closer to 1861 than most realize.

Still, in the end it doesn't affect our duty. As good line from a great movie put it "What we do here today echoes through eternity."

And if I should be made to pay the supreme price, then I will know that I will not endure more than my father's generation, my grandparent's generation or my great-grandparents generation endured from WWI, WWII and Algeria. In the end, either (a) I will be nothing (in which case I have nothing to fear); or, (b) as my faith teaches me, I may be received by the eternal love of my Redeemer, and re-join the family members I have already lost.

So I will hope for the best, prepare as best I can for the worst, and fear not.

[hiredhand]

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[teenyelliott]

I agree with everything you said. We should be glad we live where we do, instead of some major city where the masses will go over the edge.

[xmission]

What are you shooting that .338 out of?

[xmission]

"What we do here today echoes through eternity."

Lets say for arguments sake that after all is said and done, we wind up with our country back. Where do we start constitution wise? Will our ggg grandchildren have to do the same thing in 200 years? How would our forefathers have changed things if they were to get a glimpse of the sad state our government has brought upon us now? Was the constitution the absolute best we can hope for? How can we make sure that the courts do not become activist re writers? etc etc.

[PapaBear3625]

Regarding the Fairness Doctrine - that actually might work more to the advantage of conservatism than of liberalism. After all, the liberals currently own all media with the exception of talk radio. (I would hope to be the first to file a law suit, in fact.)

You're operating on the assumption that you would get to define where the middle ground is, and thus what the "two sides" of the issues are. You won't.

The Left will define the middle ground so that the moderate side of the Democrat Party will debate the radical Maoists. You and your side will remain shut out of the debate.

[DCPatriot]

IMO, though....that’s the way “IT” will start.

Isolated incidents. PRIOR to ‘mass revolt’ as you described.

I recall Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire early on prior to the mass demonstrations against the Viet Nam ‘War’.

The Kent State University students killed by American Soldiers (National Guard), etc..

[teenyelliott]

Maybe so. All we can do is prepare for the worst, and hope for the best.

The only fear I have is keeping my children safe.

[ASOC]

Kent State - 4 dead

I look at 10s of thousands of combat vets who are walking the streets today. I suspect they may have something to say, in time.

[pierrem15]

That's the $64K question: assuming we have to start all over again, the big issues are:

a) I assume almost all Americans agree on most of the bill of rights (freedom of speech, freedom of religion, equality under law, etc.)-- What about the 2nd Amendment? What actually constitutes 'establishment' of religion? When does the 'separation' of church and state become a policy of official atheism and a suppresion of religion?

b) how much 'policing' power do we want to give the Fed gov? Reviewing this issue historically, was the Food and Drug Act the beginning of excessive interference? The income tax? The minimum wage? he Fed reserve? Paper currency? Environmental regulations and takings? What about the incorporaion clause and states rights? What would most even here on FR agree to?

c) What about the military and foreign affairs? Should a new Constitution force a libertarian, isolationist stance with a small military? Allow a draft? Require a draft? Leave things as they are?

Do w want to re-open the whole can of worms; or, do we want 'push-back' on certain critical areas: i) the RKBA an its incorporation against the states; ii) unrestricted political speech (no campaign finance 'reform', no 'unfairness' doctrine), iii) rejection of excessve federal regulation (environmental, economic, etc.) and an expanded sense of the takings clause (make the bastards pay) and re-privileging of private contracts; iv) term limits. Any other ideas?