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Posted on 03/16/2009 4:39:15 AM PDT by wombtotomb

I am curious if this means what I think it means. I heard that recently Ted Kennedy was Knighted by the Queen of England. In article 1 section 9 of the Constitution, there is a section that seems to forbid this. I have copied the section below. Am I missing something? Did our Congress grant this permission?

Article 1 Section 9

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

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1 posted on 03/16/2009 4:39:15 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: wombtotomb

But he is Ted Kennedy!!!! He is above all and we are just mortals!!!


2 posted on 03/16/2009 4:41:06 AM PDT by GregB (Running my own Sarah Palin Headquarters for her run for President here in Clymer. Pa)
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To: wombtotomb

Seems very straightforward to me. I wondered if anyone else had been knighted by a British monarch. Good find!


3 posted on 03/16/2009 4:41:40 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: wombtotomb

After WW2, the UK created a special “knighthood” so American Generals could be knighted and not violate that pesky Constitution.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 4:41:47 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: wombtotomb
Its "Honorary" Knigethood. It'll get him some free drinks but it merely an honorarium. Perfectly acceptable.

Although I'm told he does have to say..."Neet!...Neet!"...several times a day...loudly...and in the presence of at least 3 people.
5 posted on 03/16/2009 4:42:29 AM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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LOL


6 posted on 03/16/2009 4:43:08 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: Tainan

Well hopefully ted will be hearing the clank of the bell and someone yelling bring out your dead real soon.


7 posted on 03/16/2009 4:47:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: wombtotomb

You must have missed the memo: that Constitution thing... it’s really old and doesn’t matter anymore... just ask the Kenyan in the Oval Office.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 4:47:36 AM PDT by AJMCQ (Who is Khalid al-Mansour? You mean Obama didn't get into Harvard on his grades?)
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To: Tainan

“Although I’m told he does have to say...”Neet!...Neet!”...several times a day...loudly...and in the presence of at least 3 people. “

I am sure he does, like Scotch “Neet,” Bourbon “Neet”
Seagrams “Neet”


9 posted on 03/16/2009 4:51:52 AM PDT by DaiHuy (')
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I am sure he does, like Scotch “Neet,” Bourbon “Neet” Seagrams “Neet”

ROFLMAO! Give that man a shrubbery!

10 posted on 03/16/2009 4:54:40 AM PDT by NoPrisoners (Huh? You mean he's NOT the messiah??? / sarcasm)
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To: wombtotomb
The Constitution states no title of nobility shall be granted by the US. Splash's title was granted by England.
11 posted on 03/16/2009 5:11:08 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: GregB

Reagan was also knighted. It is, on this side of the water, purely honorary. How they treat it on the other side of the water (real) is their business.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 5:13:02 AM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: wombtotomb

How could he be knighted without kneeling before the Queen? Did she use an old photo of him crawling away from the Chappaquidick?

(And yes, it would appear this is in contravention of that remnant of our republican government- the Constitution.)


13 posted on 03/16/2009 5:15:05 AM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: donmeaker

After the first Gulf War, General Schwartzkopf was made an honorary Knight by Queen Elizabeth. Same with Generals Marshall and Eisenhower after WWII.


14 posted on 03/16/2009 5:15:39 AM PDT by Jim Ralls
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To: bk1000

There is a second part to that section as quoted below, which is what I was referencing

And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


15 posted on 03/16/2009 5:19:51 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: Jim Ralls

Yes, someone mentioned that there was some sort of exception made for generals to be knighted. As far as I knew TK was not a holder of an officer in the military?


16 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:06 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=KofBE

And lets not forget those Knights of Malta

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=KofMalta


17 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:21 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: donmeaker

I see. Warm relations and their way of honoring men in their country.

I still think they should have to NOT use the title in the US or wait until they are retired from their office to accept it out loud, even if only honorary......


18 posted on 03/16/2009 5:22:57 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

Look pal, THEY won. THEY have the White House, Senate and House. THEY make the rules now. -Not that 200 yr old relic of a constitution. Get with the game brotha!


19 posted on 03/16/2009 5:23:49 AM PDT by J40000
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To: donmeaker

Reagan deserved it but Ted....they must of lowered the standards!!!


20 posted on 03/16/2009 5:26:00 AM PDT by GregB (Running my own Sarah Palin Headquarters for her run for President here in Clymer. Pa)
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