C'mon down and try. There's no hurry now, we'll wait.
Posted on 04/16/2009 8:34:49 AM PDT by lewisglad
Speaking at an anti-tax protest yesterday, the Texas governor brought up the fact that Texas had the right to secede from the union if thing in Washington got bad enough.
Now before we go further, let's set a little background:
Texans are fiercely prideful. You've probably seen the phrase "Don't Mess with Texas" before. It was originally meant to be an anti-littering slogan, but Texans have turned the phrase into a catch-all statement of the state's independent spirit.
Texans like to talk about independence and the fact that it's been part of six countries in its history.
That being said, it might be fun to daydream about what an independent Texas state would be like.There's a whole host of great country songs that could be its national anthem. Like, perhaps, Waltz Across Texas or All My Exes Live in Texas.
If it did secede, we hope that they can come up with something regarding Texas atheletics, so that the football teams can still participate in the NCAA. It'd be boring for the University of Texas (disclosure: my alma matter) to just beat up on Texas A&M every Saturday.
Here's one thing we do know. An independent nation of Texas would be energy independent.
Specifically, with respect to the supply of Oil and Gas. Would an independent Texas be able to produce enough oil and gas to serve its own population, with some left over for export ? Indeed it would. In fact, Texas produces more oil than any other state and accounts for 19.7% of total US output. Texas also produces more than 30% of US natural gas supply. Texas does consume a goodly portion of its own oil output, about 75% of what it produces. But, it only consumes half of its own natural gas production.
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“Do you really think that the majority of the military is going to back Obama, considering that over 70% of them voted McCain/Palin in the election? I’d bet a lot of the military is extremely frustrated with Obama, considering all the crap he’s doing.
I think many of them might join Texas!”
Just because 70% voted against Obama doesn’t mean 70% are ready to overthrow the gov’t. Perhaps I’m wrong. It would be fascinating to see such a dilemna,from a history perspective.
“Walker, Texas Rangers? My money’s on them against Zero! :) “
Against “Zero”, yes. Against the world’s greatest military? Absolutely not.
Thank you. I’ll send you a FreepMail if / when I make the move. I’ve been seriously looking at other countries. Maybe I just need to move to Texas and help you make a new country.
I’ll bring my recipe books too. I’ll probably need some lessons on Texas BBQ and sweet tea, but I’m a fast learner.
Thank you both! I’ll freepmail you if I decide to move. I hold two professional licenses and I have to see about transfering them or re-registering in Texas. Then we’re going to have to get serious about this secession thing.
“The only problem with Texas seceding is that it would be quickly over populated. The rest of us would move there overnight causing a real population problem.”
I suspect if things got to that point, Texas WOULD NOT be the only state looking to take a powder and leave.
Perry is a self-indulgent RINO. You don’t want him as Pres.
I think you'd have a hard time getting a conviction of treason on that. If so, half of the State of Texas could be found guilty. Nice try though!
You are correct. But the timeless words of Thomas Jefferson from the Declaration of Independence still ring true that essentially man was not created for government benefit but the other way around (as a brief paraphrase). It is pointless to discuss whether a people or a state have the "right" to "secede" or abolish their current form of government.
If such a thing could be done by consent then by definition no tyranny would exist.
At this point I could care less what pretense we use to fight for the preservation of our cherished freedom. A fight will be waged nonetheless.
“a memo on what happened the last time some governors thought states had the right to secede from the Union.”
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Apparently you are one who is under the delusion that when someone is smothered to death that means they never had a right to breathe in the first place.
“I think you’d have a hard time getting a conviction of treason on that. If so, half of the State of Texas could be found guilty. Nice try though!”
Oh, I’m sure we could always find enough rope to hang traitors, even if its half the state of Texas!
“Apparently you are one who is under the delusion that when someone is smothered to death that means they never had a right to breathe in the first place.”
Oh, not at all. I simply believe, along with Sam Adams, that traitors in a republic should be hung.
“If Texas does secede from the union.... can I immigrate to the Republic of Texas??????
Well trade you for five liberals from Austin!
I suggest we Draft The Nuge!!
fine with me.....he’ll do fine. Did you see him on Glenn Beck? grrrreat guy....
“Oh, not at all. I simply believe, along with Sam Adams, that traitors in a republic should be hung.”
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Then you and I have starkly differing views, I think tyrants should be hung as well as traitors but those who rise against tyrants are not traitors, they are patriots.
“Perry is a self-indulgent RINO. You don’t want him as Pres.”
Ok, that’s the second time I read that today....Kay Bailey Hutchins I hear is running....great....
“...I think tyrants should be hung as well as traitors but those who rise against tyrants are not traitors, they are patriots.”
You disagree with Sam Adams too, I see. Your opportunity to “rise up” against an elected “tyrant” in this country comes every four years at a ballot box. Otherwise, all the sophistry and special pleading at your command can’t excuse treasonous rebellion or avoid the just penalty of the noose!
You have probably heard the old saying about opinions.
I tend to agree. I just pray that the 'fight' is conducted in the political arena, and not in the streets. And I'm getting too damn old for street fights. ;~))
There is no neat, clean legal loophole that will allow us to avoid the fight. Secession is simply not a realistic option.
C'mon down and try. There's no hurry now, we'll wait.
Kay "Bailout"-Hutchison? Don't want her either. We need a good alternative.
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